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re: 2020 Recruiting Thread (SVP and Broderick Jones stay committed to the G)

Posted on 5/6/19 at 2:40 pm to
Posted by Dawgsontop34
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 2:40 pm to
He’s not even a must get at guard based on how stacked we are on the OL. I mean, I’d love to have him at guard but it’s not like Pittman struggles to recruit.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 3:12 pm to
This... I'd rather Tennessee *not* get him, simply because we know they'll shove him on the OL regardless of what they say, and I'd rather them not get stronger on the OL... but he's definitely not a "must get" for us.
Posted by DawgRff
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 3:34 pm to
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He’s not even a must get at guard based on how stacked we are on the OL. I mean, I’d love to have him at guard but it’s not like Pittman struggles to recruit.

Those guys could leave after the 2000 season. Clay Webb is the only Guard prospect we signed this past cycle. We have Obunbiyi committed but we need at least 2 dominant guards in this class.
Posted by AmericusDawg
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 4:04 pm to
Basketball squad is about to get another baller
Shouldn't be long
Posted by fibonaccisquared
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 4:05 pm to
If the kid doesn't want to play guard, none of that matters... I have no concerns with Sam Pittman's ability to find guys to play on the OL... At this stage, it does not feel like that will likely be Rogers. If he's silly enough to think that a transition to DL in college is a good idea relative to taking an almost guaranteed 2-3 years starting for Sam Pittman on the OL, he's clearly not the best decision maker.
Posted by NCDawg52
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:50 pm to
In other great recruiting news, Myles Murphy announces via twitter that he is down to two schools and will commit in a week.

Clemson and Auburn.

Tray Scott ladies and Gentlemen. A shorter, fatter Willie Martinez.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 11:11 pm to
Scott has had one full recruiting class with UGA. He’s had one freshman All-American on the DL so far. Got a 5 star (who might have come to UGA regardless) and 4* last year, and has a couple 4*s coming in 2020.

He’s definitely the worst recruiter on staff, but I don’t think he’s terrible. He’s just not as good as the standards we now set for our program.
Posted by NCDawg52
Atlanta, GA
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 11:28 pm to
Standard is higher now. His position is too critical to carry dead weight (relatively).

We absolutely won’t win a title with average DL play, and I have a hard time seeing us ever having an elite unit under Scott, because I’m just as unimpressed with his on field product as I am with his piss poor recruiting.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 11:29 pm to
I don't worry too much on Murphy, he made no illusions... He wants to play in a 4:3 base D. I'm honestly not sure there was much Scott was going to do about that one.

I still maintain that this is Scott's put up or go home year. If either 1) the DL is a wrecking crew this year or 2) he manages to put together a killer incoming class, he's earned more time. If not, best of luck to us, but the mission and standards just dictate more at this point.
Posted by NCDawg52
Atlanta, GA
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 11:30 pm to
He is an example of a mistake I fear Kirby is prone to, which is hiring guys who aren’t ready for the big time.

CTS seems like an engaging guy, but I think he would have been better if he spent a few years at a place like Ole Miss first and learned how to roll in the SEC.

Georgia can’t be a place for on the job training. Not if we want to win something.
This post was edited on 5/6/19 at 11:36 pm
Posted by fibonaccisquared
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 11:59 pm to
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He is an example of a mistake I fear Kirby is prone to, which is hiring guys who aren’t ready for the big time.


Meh... you could say the same about Lanning or Schumann... but they are recruiting well, and thus far have seemingly done a good job with helping maximize personnel grouping performance.

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Georgia can’t be a place for on the job training. Not if we want to win something.


It certainly shouldn't be the norm. Unfortunately, there also aren't just a massive surplus of amazing DL coaches out there who want to leave their job to go take a 3-4 DL position coach job it would seem. There are probably plenty of X-O guys, but fundamentally, we need a guy who can recruit it well... particularly in the Southeast.

Ideally, we'd be able to find a defensive clone of Sam Pittman... a guy that has zero desire to be a coordinator, connects well with his guys, recruits like a stud, and gets high caliber performance/development... You know anyone you could point Kirby to?
Posted by Dawgsontop34
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 11:59 pm to
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I still maintain that this is Scott's put up or go home year. If either 1) the DL is a wrecking crew this year or 2) he manages to put together a killer incoming class, he's earned more time. If not, best of luck to us, but the mission and standards just dictate more at this point.


Exactly how I feel at this point. Hoping Jermaine and Nolan do work early and often.
Posted by NCDawg52
Atlanta, GA
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 12:02 am to
There are plenty of options. Probably 10 guys or more who would be an improvement over Scott both on gameday and signing day.

In my opinion, it’s the most important position on defense and second overall only to QB. I’d go out and identify the best, most proven guy out there and make them the highest paid assistant coach in the sport.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 12:03 am to
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Exactly how I feel at this point. Hoping Jermaine and Nolan do work early and often.


But if those 2 specifically *DO WORK*... does Scott get the credit, or is that likely more of a Lanning thing, since they are fundamentally OLBs in our system and spend most of their time working with that group?

I feel like for Scott to get credit, there needs to be some devastation happening on the true "DL". Whether that's Wyatt, Davis, Walthour or someone else... I want to see DL either blowing up the middle of the line to force adjustments, or at a minimum plugging up running lanes so hard that it would take a train to run through them.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 12:06 am to
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But if those 2 specifically *DO WORK*... does Scott get the credit, or is that likely more of a Lanning thing, since they are fundamentally OLBs in our system and spend most of their time working with that group?


That’s fair. I also expect a lot out of Jordan Davis this year, if healthy. Thought Wyatt was pretty decent as well. I wonder if people would look differently at Scott if Trenton hadn’t made the terrible decision to leave early. Don’t think they would, but I do feel like our DL would have been much better at the beginning of the year and our depth would have been at least somewhat decent.
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 12:10 am
Posted by NCDawg52
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 12:09 am to
Under Scott so far:

-Thompson regressed
-Clark regressed
-Rochester stagnated/regressed
-Michail Carter stagnated
-Ledbetter fizzled and went undrafted

Davis and Wyatt were bright spots, but they are first year guys. If you live and die by first year guys at DT, you will die.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 12:13 am to
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Thompson regressed
-Clark regressed


Disagree on Clark, and think it’s a little unfair to put the Thompson blame on him when he had health issues.

But I’ll get away from this on the recruiting board. Hope he proves a lot of us wrong this season or we look elsewhere in the offseason.
Posted by AmericusDawg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 12:33 am to
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Clark regressed


Wasn't mentioned much, but the kid played hurt all year. Thompson never impressed to regress, just hype. Really hate he never got that last year to see if he could put it all together.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 2:28 pm to
GHSA Football championships going to start playing outdoors in the old Ted this December.

Bundle up y’all
Posted by BoogerSykes
Goodyear AZ
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 3:04 pm to
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Rochester stagnated/regressed


He was playing out of position alot times because we had no choice.
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