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re: 2019 Recruiting Class (NSD - Today; 5* WR George Pickens flips to UGA from Auburn)

Posted on 10/11/18 at 6:29 pm to
Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 10/11/18 at 6:29 pm to
True dual threat QBs are more dynamic and difficult to stop. That's why Alabama is recruiting those types of QBs. I'm sorry that offends you.
Posted by dawgdayafternoon
Jacksonville, GA
Member since Jul 2011
22982 posts
Posted on 10/11/18 at 6:45 pm to
A lot of schools nationally recruit those types of QBs.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
79498 posts
Posted on 10/12/18 at 8:29 am to
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That's why Alabama is recruiting those types of QBs.


To be fair, we're really not.

We have three committed QBs for the Classes of 2019 and 2020 and all three of them are Pro-Style kids.

Tua isn't really a dual-threat QB either. The one guy we have on our roster, Jalen Hurts, that is a dual-threat was only a take after we missed on a bunch of other QBs in his class, namely Jacob Eason, Dwayne Haskins and Shea Patterson.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
44770 posts
Posted on 10/12/18 at 9:20 am to
quote:


To be fair, we're really not.

We have three committed QBs for the Classes of 2019 and 2020 and all three of them are Pro-Style kids.



Don’t let facts get in the way of HTDawg’s narrative please.
Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
6683 posts
Posted on 10/12/18 at 9:37 am to
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Tua isn't really a dual-threat QB either.


You lost me with that. Don't tell me Tua isn't a dual threat QB. He is and you know it. The fact that he prefers to throw doesn't make him a typical pro-style QB. You're also recruiting his brother. I don't care what the recruiting services list him. He is a dual threat QB. His highlight tape is filled with ridiculous runs.

Hurts is not a dual threat QB because he can't pass worth a crap. You have to be able to do both effectively. Tua and Taulia do both effectively.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
79498 posts
Posted on 10/12/18 at 10:08 am to
quote:

Don't tell me Tua isn't a dual threat QB.


He isn't. Does he have the capability to run if necessary? Sure. So does Jake Fromm. Is Fromm a dual-threat guy?

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You're also recruiting his brother. I don't care what the recruiting services list him.


Taulia is even more lead footed than Tua. He had negative yards rushing his Sophomore season.

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His highlight tape is filled with ridiculous runs.


He throws the ball damn near 50 times a game for Thompson. I'd like to see this runs you are talking about.
Posted by GregYoureMyBoyBlue
Member since Apr 2011
2963 posts
Posted on 10/12/18 at 10:35 am to
Edited because HTDawg literally said the exact same thing haha
This post was edited on 10/12/18 at 10:37 am
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 10/12/18 at 10:59 am to
quote:

Taulia is even more lead footed than Tua. He had negative yards rushing his Sophomore season.


Facts are hard...

LINK

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Rushing
Year Grade Team GP Car Yds Avg Y/G Lng 100+ TD
Varsity Totals 18 51 208 4.1 11.6 15 0 6
18-19 Senior Varsity 5 21 53 2.5 10.6 12 0 1
17-18 Junior Varsity 13 30 155 5.2 11.9 15 0 5


I know that's a bit of an eyesore, so let's break that down... In his final two years (to date), Taulia had 51 carries for 208 yards... in total.

Let's do a blind resume comparison...

quote:

Year Grade Team GP Car Yds Avg Y/G Lng 100+ TD
Varsity Totals 46 204 594 2.9 12.9 62 1 7
16-17 Senior Varsity 10 106 351 3.3 35.1 62 1 4
15-16 Junior Varsity 13 33 81 2.5 6.2 18 0 0
14-15 Sophomore Varsity 13 31 104 3.4 8.0 16 0 2
13-14 Freshman Varsity 10 34 58 1.7 5.8 15 1

that's 100+ carries for 350 yards in the senior year alone... for one Jake Fromm State Farm....

Trevor Lawrence could hardly be confused as a "Dual Threat" QB... and had... give or take about 50 carries for 200+ yards per season... LINK

Tua did run more in HS... but he's decimating teams through the air thus far... through 6 games, he's run 23 times... or approximately 4 times per game, about on par with what he did in 2017, with 27 attempts through 8 games played. He's an athletic QB, absolutely. He has mobility as an asset. But he's a different beast altogether than someone like Cam Newton who had 260+ rushing attempts in 2010 at Auburn.
Posted by NCDawg52
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2014
3151 posts
Posted on 10/12/18 at 11:13 am to
Typically, the fastest statistical way to be classified as a dual threat quarterback is to be non-white.

Haha.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38177 posts
Posted on 10/12/18 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

isn't. Does he have the capability to run if necessary? Sure. So does Jake Fromm. Is Fromm a dual-threat guy?



Tua has 255 rushing yards on 50 carries.
Fromm has 58 rushing yards on 68 carries.

It’s clear one is a much bigger threat with his feet than the other.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
43887 posts
Posted on 10/12/18 at 1:00 pm to
Any recruits we're interested in going to be at the game tomorrow?
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
31517 posts
Posted on 10/12/18 at 1:06 pm to
Ok. So provide us with your threshold for the yardage needed to become a DT QB
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
31517 posts
Posted on 10/12/18 at 1:10 pm to
Would you consider Aaron Rodgers at DT QB? Probably not because he’s white

Not including last year he averages nearly 400 yds rushing most years. It’s called being mobile. Not DT
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38177 posts
Posted on 10/12/18 at 4:30 pm to
Not sure what the threshold is, but tua is above it and Fromm is below it.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
79498 posts
Posted on 10/12/18 at 10:00 pm to
And, still, neither is a dual-threat QB.
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
4370 posts
Posted on 10/12/18 at 10:03 pm to
Can y’all stop
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
79498 posts
Posted on 10/12/18 at 10:10 pm to
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Can y’all stop




Are we arguing? He made a statement. I responded.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38177 posts
Posted on 10/12/18 at 10:20 pm to
Gonna have to disagree and call Tua a pass first dual threat.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
79498 posts
Posted on 10/12/18 at 10:22 pm to
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Gonna have to disagree and call Tua a pass first dual threat.


You call Aaron Rodgers that too?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38177 posts
Posted on 10/12/18 at 10:35 pm to
Sure, his production on the ground supports it.
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