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re: 2019 Recruiting Class (NSD - Today; 5* WR George Pickens flips to UGA from Auburn)
Posted on 10/3/18 at 8:48 am to DawgsLife
Posted on 10/3/18 at 8:48 am to DawgsLife
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because eh couldn't run. He couldn't run the offense because he couldn't pass.
Why I posted this:
“saban still wasn’t smart enough to make the change earlier, and Bama is lucky they still had a shot at a mnc despite that mistake.”
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Posted on 10/3/18 at 8:51 am to NCDawg52
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Bama began a philosophic change around the time Lane Kiffin stepped in as OC.
I keep reading this, and i know my statistics don't tell the whole story, but let's see how big of a shift we are talking about.
In order my colums represent
passes attempted per game
2012 23
2013 28
Lane Kiffen Hired January 2014
2014 32
2015 29
2016 28
Kiffen fired in January 2017.
Lets not pretend that Lane Kiffen brought the Air Raid to Tuscaloosa.
I get that passes attempted does no necessarily mean the same as philosophy. And I also acknowledge that They switched to a mobile QB during that time frame.
But lets not gloss over the fact that derrick henry was also the Heisman Trophy winner during that time frame. Alabama was still very much a run first offense.
Posted on 10/3/18 at 8:52 am to Dawgsontop34
You gotta learn to just ignore that NC guy. He’s a sidewalk POS fan. All he does is bitch and moan and has absolutely zero intelligent piece of information to add to any conversations on here. He wants Fields to take over because our offense sucks with Fromm...despite stats saying otherwise. He wants us to go vertical a lot more, but doesn’t want us to play the QB that throws the better vertical ball. He talks about adding depth at positions we have that are elite, but doesn’t realize we are doing that. He thinks losing Hasselwood will prevent us from getting a top 3 class....cause he doesn’t understand what we have waiting in the wings. He doesn’t realize how loaded we are and will be at WR for many ears to come. He probably thought the world was over when Lawrence picked Clemson over us too.....Anyways, just learn to ignore him and don’t talk directly back to him. It just encourages him to shovel more shite into his mouth and then spew it out.
Posted on 10/3/18 at 8:54 am to IT_Dawg
Holy shite. I'm impressed that I've offended you this much.
Edit: also, my degree and Hartman fund points respond to your sidewalk accusation with a solid "frick you"
Edit: also, my degree and Hartman fund points respond to your sidewalk accusation with a solid "frick you"
This post was edited on 10/3/18 at 8:57 am
Posted on 10/3/18 at 8:57 am to djsdawg
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Fromm hasn’t regressed but we have fallen further behind Bama due to tua.
I can see this. But that has more to do with the talent of Tua and less to do with the offensive philosophy, imo. There are a lot of teams that air the ball out that are not doing all that well.
Posted on 10/3/18 at 8:58 am to djsdawg
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Why I posted this:
“saban still wasn’t smart enough to make the change earlier, and Bama is lucky they still had a shot at a mnc despite that mistake.”
Then the narrative of "the offensive philosophy changed under Kiffen" is false. It really hasn't changed all that much until this year.
Posted on 10/3/18 at 8:59 am to IT_Dawg
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You gotta learn to just ignore that NC guy. He’s a sidewalk POS fan. All he does is bitch and moan and has absolutely zero intelligent piece of information to add to any conversations on here
Sometimes NC is being completely sarcastic, and it gets missed by some. I tend to think he's a good poster, who I just disagree with here (to an extent). I definitely think Haselwood is a big loss, but I disagree that we can't compete with the big boys.
I think the biggest difference in the second half of the year last season was our offensive line play. I think that if our O Line can step up during the latter half of this season Fromm will be a little bit more comfortable in the pocket.
Posted on 10/3/18 at 8:59 am to IT_Dawg
I've got no problem with NC or djs. they can usually put forth solid arguments and back them up. they may not be popular opinions, sometimes, but they are solid.
Posted on 10/3/18 at 9:02 am to Dawgsontop34
cheers to reasonable people disagreeing. Last year was remarkable. It was a perfect storm in many ways.
I don't think it's impossible to replicate that type of success in the current mold, but I do believe that some adaptation would allow us to achieve that type of success with more consistency and without a more cyclical reliance on having multiple NFL starter level backs in the backfield, generational talent at MLB, etc.
Edit: also, I'm a 100% shitposter on tRant, so those don't count. Haha.
This post was edited on 10/3/18 at 9:04 am
Posted on 10/3/18 at 9:08 am to DawgsLife
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Then the narrative of "the offensive philosophy changed under Kiffen" is false. It really hasn't changed all that much until this year.
No, not at all. It’s been evolving. Bama starting passing a lot more in 2014. That’s a fact. 2017 was an issue of playing the wrong Qb, which was a saban mistake. Hurts limited that offense.
This post was edited on 10/3/18 at 9:10 am
Posted on 10/3/18 at 9:09 am to NCDawg52
I think losing White was a bigger loss than I realized at the time. That guy had the potential to be the best back in the SEC on Day 1. I do think more time on the field for Isaiah Wilson and Cade Mays, along with Ben Cleveland getting healthy will be big for us. I also think that the more Monty Rice gets playing time, the better we're going to be on defense.
It's just so difficult this year, because it might be Alabama's best offensive team ever. We'er still 5-0, getting better, and recruiting at an elite level. Losing Haselwood hampers that, but it doesn't stop it. We're still building a championship level program.
It's just so difficult this year, because it might be Alabama's best offensive team ever. We'er still 5-0, getting better, and recruiting at an elite level. Losing Haselwood hampers that, but it doesn't stop it. We're still building a championship level program.
This post was edited on 10/3/18 at 10:40 am
Posted on 10/3/18 at 9:12 am to djsdawg
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No, not at all. It’s been evolving. Bama starting passing a lot more in 2014. That’s a fact.
Well, statistically, that is not a fact, because it's inaccurate so...
Posted on 10/3/18 at 9:14 am to Dawgsontop34
So who is in Haslewood's ear/in the lead--Auburn? Seems to be the only other school mentioned giving us pause about him. He will certainly not be a featured WR there any more than at UGA.
Posted on 10/3/18 at 9:16 am to Brick67
Miami. Will likely commit this weekend.
Posted on 10/3/18 at 9:16 am to djsdawg
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No, not at all. It’s been evolving. Bama starting passing a lot more in 2014.
Almsot every offensive philosophy evolves. We are throwing to our TEs more and passing in general more.
quote:Okay. I agree. So why was he a mistake? was it because he was not mobile, or was it because he could not pass?
2017 was an issue of playing the wrong Qb, which was a saban mistake. Hurts limited that offense.
Posted on 10/3/18 at 9:21 am to Dawgsontop34
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No, not at all. It’s been evolving. Bama starting passing a lot more in 2014. That’s a fact.
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Well, statistically, that is not a fact, because it's inaccurate so...
The fact is they have thrown fewer times a game every year since 2014. Last year they threw it the fewest.
In fact, they are only throwing the ball 26.4 times a game this year. The biggest difference is they are doing it more effectively this year.
Again...average number of passing attempts per game by year:
2014-32
2015-29
2016-28
2017-22
2018-26
This post was edited on 10/3/18 at 9:23 am
Posted on 10/3/18 at 9:22 am to DawgsLife
Nothing like coming into the recruiting thread and seeing people just having verbal diarrhea all over the place. 4 pages and not much besides people who don't understand football complaining about our offense.
Not directed at you DawgsLife.
Not directed at you DawgsLife.
Posted on 10/3/18 at 9:25 am to Porter Osborne Jr
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Nothing like coming into the recruiting thread and seeing people just having verbal diarrhea all over the place. 4 pages and not much besides people who don't understand football complaining about our offense
It’s what happens when a top player decommits....kinda like after only beating UT by 26! The irony is awesome, everyone wanted to get to this point where we lose a top recruit and still finish top 3 and beating an SEC team by 26 isn’t good enough....yet, a lot of people can’t handle actually being at this point.
Posted on 10/3/18 at 9:26 am to Dawgsontop34
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statistically, that is not a fact, because it's inaccurate so...
Well, you would be wrong. 2 highest pass attempts per game at Bama were 2014 and 2015. 2016 remained as high as the highest from 09-13, and that was with Hurts probably taking off running on passing plays.
Posted on 10/3/18 at 9:27 am to Porter Osborne Jr
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Not directed at you DawgsLife.
No problem. I was just thinking this might should be put into another thread.
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