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re: Heated Work Discussion Romo vs. Aikman

Posted on 8/4/15 at 12:59 pm to
Posted by Mirthomatic
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 12:59 pm to
No, I'm saying that David Carr was much more in the class of a Quincy Carter or Ryan Leaf than a Tony Romo. Carr was in a terrible situation, but he was never even good. He never performed at a level even approaching that of Romo.
Posted by Old Sarge
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 1:02 pm to
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Carr was in a terrible situation,






And Romo has spent his entire career in the absolutely perfect situation
This post was edited on 8/4/15 at 1:03 pm
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 1:04 pm to
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And Romo has spent his entire career in the absolutely perfect situation




yea man, you really are trying too hard
Posted by Old Sarge
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 1:12 pm to
They don't consistently have one of the top payrolls?

Top facility?

Top coaching?

Owners backing and support?



Not to mention being in one of the weakest divisions in the NFL
This post was edited on 8/4/15 at 1:13 pm
Posted by AgBQ00
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 1:23 pm to
Just because GM Jerry paid a lot does not mean that he was paying good players.

Do you even Valley Ranch?

So Wade and a learn on the Job Garrett are top coaches? Got it.

Again just because Jerry really wants to win does not mean he is a football man by any stretch.



eta: The NFC East is what it is. Up and down.
This post was edited on 8/4/15 at 1:25 pm
Posted by Old Sarge
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 1:25 pm to
Haven't they won 3 Super Bowls with Jerry as the owner?

Seems like he's got to be one of the best owners in the NFL.
Posted by 3andOut
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 1:27 pm to
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Seems like he's got to be one of the best owners in the NFL.


Hes the best OWNER is football.

Hes the worst GM in the history of any sport.

Anyone who gets rid of Parcells/Johnson because they wouldnt be his puppets loses all respect from me. Pride should never come before the best interest of your team and he did that for many years. He's finally handed off some of the GM responsibility now that he knows its not going to work.

Romos first many years he had terrible teams and coaches.

He still doesnt have a great head coach.

Keep the trolling up though its actually quite entertaining.
This post was edited on 8/4/15 at 1:29 pm
Posted by AgBQ00
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 1:28 pm to


Owner...good owner
GM/President....
Posted by Old Sarge
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 1:31 pm to
How many other owners have won 3 Super Bowls in the last 25 years ?
Posted by AgBQ00
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 1:33 pm to
You realize there are two Jerry's right?

Owner Jerry and GM Jerry.

Owner Jerry is good

GM Jerry is a joke

HTH

BTW You need a new avi:
Posted by Old Sarge
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 1:44 pm to
That's just mean
Posted by AgBQ00
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 1:48 pm to
Posted by aggressor
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 2:25 pm to
I think a lot of you guys maybe don't really remember Troy in his prime. Was he a game manager? Yes, but he was a hell of a lot more than that. He had one of the strongest arms in the league and probably the most accurate arm in the league. He just knew how to use the talent around him. Was there a lot of talent? Absolutely, but Aikman is a big part of why so many of those players were Pro Bowlers. He was brilliant at reading a defense and hitting his targets or knowing when to hand it off to Emmitt. A good example is Alvin Harper who was amazing as a Cowboy but as soon as he left he barely looked like a roster player. A lot of that was Aikman and his ability to utilize the talent around him.

Remember Aikman was the overall #1 for a reason, he was rated by some on the same level as Elway coming out of college. He had all the tools. He also stepped up on the big stage when it counted in the playoffs. Toward the end he was a shell of what he had been, remember he had 10 concussions in his career and that was before the NFL got serious about concussion protocol. He was a tackling dummy his first 2 seasons in the league as well before that famous line was in place. There were a lot of miles on the odometer by the time he turned 30.

I like Romo but it is almost insulting to put him in Aikman's league. The stats comparison of today is almost irrelevant, it used to be very rare a QB would throw for 4k yards, now it is essentially expected. In the end remember that the most important metric for a QB is winning and especially winning in the playoffs. Troy played his best when it counted. He may not have had as many comebacks as Tony but it was because his teams were already beating the crap out of who they were playing and he didn't need to, he won the game in the 1st and 2nd quarter so the 4th quarter was about running out the clock. To be honest neither of them were in Roger Staubach's category either.
Posted by Old Sarge
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 2:31 pm to
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it is almost insulting to put him in Aikman's league





That's what I've been trying to tell them!
Posted by Mirthomatic
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 3:38 pm to
I remember Aikman well. He was accurate, but not the most accurate. For one, Steve Young was more accurate. And knowing when to hand it off to Emmitt? That was pretty much all the time. The opposing defense would know that Emmitt was going to be fed the ball, and they couldn't stop it. The Cowboys would march steadily down the field until #22 would punch it in. Troy never had to shoulder the load of the offense the way Romo has had to for his entire career up until last year. Then when he gets an Emmitt-Smith-quality run game to complement him, he puts up MVP-type numbers.

Aikman barely has more TDs than INTs over his career: 165:141. Romo is 242:110.

Romo's made his share of receivers, like Miles Austin and Laurent Robinson.

You can say Aikman was #1 for a reason, but the draft is full of busts. And Romo wasn't even drafted at all. Was that "for a reason"?

Aikman was a good player on great teams.
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 5:01 pm to
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For one, Steve Young was more accurate.


That would be Steve Young, Super Bowl winner. Not sure what point you're trying to make here.

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Then when he gets an Emmitt-Smith-quality run game to complement him, he puts up MVP-type numbers.


Clearly, wearing his ball cap correctly for the first time made all the difference. And get off my lawn.
Posted by Mirthomatic
Member since Feb 2013
4113 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 5:25 pm to
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That would be Steve Young, Super Bowl winner. Not sure what point you're trying to make here.



Just addressing the claim that he was the most accurate in the league. I do agree that not being better than Steve Young is not exactly defamation.

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Clearly, wearing his ball cap correctly for the first time made all the difference. And get off my lawn.



I will completely agree with you that I've never approved of his ball cap orientation.
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