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re: Corps of Cadets to have first-ever female Commander
Posted on 2/16/15 at 3:19 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Posted on 2/16/15 at 3:19 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Volume is irrelevant. It's acoustics.
In order for a typical woman to reach the acoustic level required, she either has to screech or drop her voice an octave. Just using a louder version of her normal speaking voice will not carry as far or effectively.
In order for a typical woman to reach the acoustic level required, she either has to screech or drop her voice an octave. Just using a louder version of her normal speaking voice will not carry as far or effectively.
This post was edited on 2/16/15 at 3:20 pm
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 3:31 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Posted on 2/16/15 at 3:31 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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In order for a typical woman to reach the acoustic level required, she either has to screech or drop her voice an octave. Just using a louder version of her normal speaking voice will not carry as far or effectively.
I know this, and there are plenty of females capable of such. Had female squadron commanders both of my black belt years who could sound off with the best of 'em, in fact.
Not all female voices are equal.
But of course you know this, and we're both wasting our time here
This post was edited on 2/16/15 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 2/16/15 at 3:34 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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we're both wasting our time here
No you're not. Please, continue.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 3:36 pm to greenbastard
You over here instigating
Posted on 2/16/15 at 4:02 pm to TbirdSpur2010
It makes for good afternoon entertainment.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 4:06 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
quote:Who gives a frick
In order for a typical woman to reach the acoustic level required
Yes it is very important for a yell leader's voice to reach 50 rows through the crowd as opposed to 40 because everyone is listening for the yells and not watching the fricking hand signs
EDIT: I didn't finish the first page apparently y'all aren't talking about yell leaders. Keeping the post up in shame
This post was edited on 2/16/15 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 2/16/15 at 4:08 pm to TbirdSpur2010
I must say that as long as she is qualified and not a PC placement I would have no problem with a female head drum major. Now if it was some PC garbage placement just to maintain aesthetics I would have a problem. (My BQ counterpart can attest to my detestation of unqualified candidates in positions for PC reasons. His good buddy was one of the first female bugle rank members. Not many were happy with that placement including all the WAGS in my outfit(note WAGS was a term of cordial bantering to the women in my outfit, not used derogatorily at all.) Thing is I am not plugged in enough to know the difference right now so IDGAF
Posted on 2/16/15 at 4:16 pm to AgBQ00
I most certainly agree with all that you posted 
Posted on 2/16/15 at 4:28 pm to TbirdSpur2010
One Caveat. It would sound weird as frick to me during step off.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 4:49 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Corps of Cadets to have first-ever female Commander
Volume is irrelevant. It's acoustics.
In order for a typical woman to reach the acoustic level required, she either has to screech or drop her voice an octave. Just using a louder version of her normal speaking voice will not carry as far or effectively.
I have found this to be true 90% of the time in the military. There are a few women who can call cadence loudly and with a good sound. Not many though. It's just biology, not a knock on women. Women also have less muscle mass than men typically. Saying so isn't sexist and shouldn't be offensive.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 4:58 pm to AgBQ00
I have to ask. From my understanding WAG/WAGS as a term was first used to mean Women AG/S. When did it become a derogatory term? I know many considered it degrading when I was in school but when did that start?
Posted on 2/16/15 at 4:59 pm to AgBQ00
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One Caveat. It would sound weird as frick to me during step off.
People would get used to it
It'd be a change at first tho.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 5:03 pm to TbirdSpur2010
People got used to shite like going "whoooooooooooo" w/the flags at the start of a performance and people shouting "hump it Ags" in near the end of the Spirit. 
Posted on 2/16/15 at 5:05 pm to AgBQ00
I don't know.
My bet would be mid-80s.
"Wag" was a prejorative when I was an undergrad in the early 90s.
It's similar to the folks today who are desperately trying to get rid of "Lady Ags" for soccer, basketball, softball, etc.
The reason: "We're all Ags; guys aren't called 'Gentleman Ags.'"
I just nod my head and smile.
My bet would be mid-80s.
"Wag" was a prejorative when I was an undergrad in the early 90s.
It's similar to the folks today who are desperately trying to get rid of "Lady Ags" for soccer, basketball, softball, etc.
The reason: "We're all Ags; guys aren't called 'Gentleman Ags.'"
I just nod my head and smile.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 5:07 pm to Dr RC
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people shouting "hump it Ags" in near the end of the Spirit.
I hate this crap
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going "whoooooooooooo" w/the flags at the start of a performance
But I love this, I can't lie
always makes me laugh and it's the last thing I hear before y'all sound Recall and tear up the field, so I'm hyped, too 
Posted on 2/16/15 at 8:29 pm to AgBQ00
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His good buddy was one of the first female bugle rank members.
To be fair, Eddy wasn't sure she belonged there either. The issue most of us had with our Bugle Rank is that we were under the mistaken impression that the 12 members of the bugle rank would be the 12 top marchers not already drum majors...and the fact that they were already chosen by the directors BEFORE the auditions took place.
Also you know as well as I do that, had he not dropped his mace during the tryouts, Josh would have been head drum major and Mark would have been I-Band.
I knew deep down I wouldn't be one of the last three...I was lucky enough to make the final 8.
and about your WAG buddies: If I recall correctly, Jennie and Karen were a bit...territorial...to say the least, but then again, Eddy was a bit rough around the edges until our junior year.
This post was edited on 2/17/15 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 2/17/15 at 8:03 am to CGSC Lobotomy
I remember being disappointed for Josh. I had forgotten that he dropped his mace. The whole bugle rank situation really got to me back then because of the tryouts were in fact a farce. But it is all ancient history now. Se la vie.
Posted on 2/17/15 at 8:08 am to AgBQ00
"Dropped" was putting it lightly.
I remember watching in horror as it caught the side of an instrument and literally flew out of his hand, traveling about 20 feet behind him and he had to run back and grab it.
He was shaken up to say the least.
I remember watching in horror as it caught the side of an instrument and literally flew out of his hand, traveling about 20 feet behind him and he had to run back and grab it.
He was shaken up to say the least.
Posted on 2/17/15 at 8:12 am to TbirdSpur2010
The woooooooing during bugle rank's flourish makes my blood boil. To me it comes across as a mocking insult to cadets who spend hours upon hours putting the drills together. I have had others not associated with A&M ask why we Aggies profess to love the band so much and then make fun of them at the beginning of each drill. Hacks me off. NOW GET OFF MY LAWN!!!
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