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re: Jalen Hurd's Uncle shines some light on the transfer
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:05 pm to Str8volfan
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:05 pm to Str8volfan
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This team can still win 9 games and get a decent bowl game. Was that the case 4 years ago?
You are trying to make a case that he is good by comparing him to Dooley...
Everyone acknowledges that Butch has done good things, but continuing to support him just because he is the coach sounds crazy to me. I understand that he will still be the coach next year and I also realize that he is going to undo all the good things because he can't ride the momentum of recruiting and promises when the results say different.
He has had a chance to prove he is a championship coach and he isn't. If we are content being a mediocre program from here on out then he is a good choice.
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Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:09 pm to Robert Goulet
I don't think anybody runs an I formation anymore, not even bama. Frankly, if you're a great running back you should be able to adapt. Derrick Henry was a lot bigger than Jalen and still ran the ball succesfully out of a shotgun spread. Jalen is just making excuses at this point and personally has never impressed me.
How he ever started over kamara is confounding to me.
How he ever started over kamara is confounding to me.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:10 pm to Masterag
Pettway is essentially the same size as Hurd and is currently shredding for Auburn.
Hurd just is not a power back despite his size.
Hurd just is not a power back despite his size.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:14 pm to Masterag
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Frankly, if you're a great running back you should be able to adapt.
I agree with this. I do think Hurd is a good back, just not great. His blocking and hands help him out tremendously.
If his health is truly a concern of his, I dont see anything wrong with that.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:14 pm to Jim Croce
Robert, Im not disagreeing with you. I just refuse to fall into the trap of badmouthing him on a message board. He has done enough at UT that he will be the coach here a few more years, so instead of throw him under the bus, I choose to support him and this program. The season isnt over, you never know what might happen. Hell, Florida could blow a tire and lose the rest of their games...
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:19 pm to Jim Croce
Hurd's acceleration is his biggest issue imo. He takes sofa king long to get going and his balance is shite. Dobbs has 10x the running balance that Hurd has.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:20 pm to David Ricky
how reliable is Jimmy Hyams?
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:24 pm to Jim Croce
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Hurd just is not a power back despite his size.
I honestly think what separates Hurd from the rest of the big powerbacks like Henry, Pettway, Etc. is his first step. He just isn't explosive enough to take advantage of the size.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:28 pm to Str8volfan
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how reliable is Jimmy Hyams?
He doesn't report anything until week after it happens
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:36 pm to Vols&Shaft83
just wondered. I saw a tweet that he said that Butch was willing to hand in his resignation if they would pay him half of his 2017 salary.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:48 pm to Str8volfan
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just wondered. I saw a tweet that he said that Butch was willing to hand in his resignation if they would pay him half of his 2017 salary.
That was fake
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:48 pm to Masterag
Why couldnt Hurd make the switch to TE at UT? You guys have RB depth.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:52 pm to surgicalvenom
Because he was trying to make the switch during the bye week when Kamara is injured, which would leave us in a bad spot.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:52 pm to surgicalvenom
quote:thanks, I figured as much.
That was fake
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:57 pm to Str8volfan
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Robert, Im not disagreeing with you. I just refuse to fall into the trap of badmouthing him on a message board
That's fine. We all have our opinions and there is nothing wrong with that.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 5:35 pm to Jim Croce
So he wasnt willing to make the switch next season? He wanted to switch positions mid season?
This post was edited on 11/1/16 at 8:05 am
Posted on 10/31/16 at 5:49 pm to surgicalvenom
Apparently
Posted on 10/31/16 at 5:51 pm to Masterag
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I don't think anybody runs an I formation anymore, not even bama. Frankly, if you're a great running back you should be able to adapt. Derrick Henry was a lot bigger than Jalen and still ran the ball succesfully out of a shotgun spread. Jalen is just making excuses at this point and personally has never impressed me.
How he ever started over kamara is confounding to me.
Hurd and Henry are actually pretty identical in size both height and weight are the same or at least they were last year but your point stands. Hurd should've been able to do more. He's never had the top end speed or vision though and that's what held him back not the scheme. I loved watching him when he ran angry because he was the kind of back that absolutely punished defenses but he was a grind it out and wear you down kind of guy who could reliably pick up 3-5 yards almost every time he touched the ball and even in shitty situations when he was hit behind the line but he never was a home run threat and when he didn't run angry the best that could be said for him was that he was solid.
AK and JK both have run between tackles better than Hurd this year (and better at it than his best day) despite him being larger because they have vision, burst, and more than enough power. Hurd was more powerful when he wanted to be and was a fantastic blocker but he lacked the other two elements that would've put him in an elite class.
As for how he started over Kamara, he was already the starter and had carried the team his freshman year. Kamara wasn't initially as good of a blocker and that was very much needed when he arrived. Kamara had more ypc and more home run ability from day one and flashed more raw talent but he wasn't as good last season as he's been this season and he had trouble doing some of the things that Jalen could do effectively last season (the boring parts of RB and the shorter yardage situations).
In retrospect, it's telling that AK was named a team captain at the beginning of the season and Hurd wasn't.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 7:19 pm to Str8volfan
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. But, as long as he is the coach, I will support him and this team. GBO.
So did you support Dooley after the Mizzou game in 12? I get supporting the team, I think we all will always support the team but at some point with coaches you have to recognize it's time to cut bait and no longer support them. This is important bc fan support has a large influence on the decision makers
Btw I'm not saying we have absolutely reached that point with Botch, just asking if you hypothetically support our coach no matter what
Posted on 11/1/16 at 9:50 am to Wishnitwas1998
Did the DL from thw Congo end up quitting? His tweet with the "hanging them up cleats" was a weird way to put it out there.
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