re: This is why UF is struggling in recruiting

Recruiting. Some guys are good at it, some guys are not, and some guys don't like it.

Good luck getting back on their board talking like that. Your opinion of his recruiting is more than warranted, but I'd stay away from the whole degrading speak if you actually want to be back in. Unless you actually take pride in being the pariah.

I think it has more to do with Coach Buckteeth.

It literally makes no sense that a coach can be at Florida, come off the back of two straight division titles, and not be able to recruit worth a frick

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there are rumors on various Florida boards that we could sign double digit 4 stars on signing day and end with a top 10 class.

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Highly unlikely

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He won the East they said!! UF will be in a worse spot When he leaves than when He arrived.

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So you think McElwain is going to go 4 - 8, with six scholarship offensive linemen after he goes? I'm sorry, you're talking up Muschamp but before McElwain stepped on campus we were 100+ in our recruiting class and our program was on a steep, steep decline.

Beating LSU on the road even with Orgeron is a tall-order, and watching you melt over your own team and wish death upon other Gator fans is kinda pathetic on your part.

Seriously, you should be TJTiger, or TJTide, because you're just not a Gator fan.

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On the plus side, Muschamp left UF with NFL players all over the defensive depth chart that have been UF's backbone the past 2 years.

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And McElwain had a better defense. He broke the all-time record for total offensive yards permitted (for UF) and did the same for the Outback Bowl.

He's done better on defense, and done the same with way less on offense which Muschamp neglected.

The defenses were ranked the exact same in WM-Mac's 1st 2 years. His recruiting is turning us into Arkansas. He played an easy schedule.

I would normally say that you guys are mucking up the recruiting board with your banter - but it's so riveting. I can't look away.

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And McElwain had a better defense.

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That would make sense. Muschamp's first two seasons, the defense was filled with guys recruited while Meyer was still all in. The defense dropped off when its primary upperclassmen were guys recruited during the dropoff transition classes with Meyer semi-retired into Muschamp taking over. The next stage was the defense picking back up post Muschamp while full of upperclassmen studs he recruited 3 years prior.

Now, following the same cycle, I would expect the talent level on defense to fall off considerably. The offense needs to come along quickly to make up for that, and I'm not sure McElwain is getting the guys to be optimistic about that happening.

The past couple years, I've thought UGA had basically no hope to move the ball on UF because of how overwhelmed our WRs, OL, and QB would be, talent/experience-wise. I seriously doubt that's the case moving forward.