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Posted on 4/28/13 at 10:23 pm to
Posted by volfan30
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 10:23 pm to
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I don't care who makes the comparison to be honest, it's a bad one IMO.


Harris? It's very good imo. Almost identical body types. Both are very skilled for their size and both enter college with some baby fat. Harris was probably slightly less athletic and more skilled/refined when he entered college, but the production will be very similar I'd bet.
Posted by GatorsGators
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 10:24 pm to
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So when you posted his opinion, you did or din't agree with it?
I don't think it's a perfect comparison, but I do think it's valid. They're very similar physically (size, strength, athleticism) imo. Sure, Martin can shoot from three and that was never really a part of Green's game, but they're very similar otherwise.
This post was edited on 4/28/13 at 10:25 pm
Posted by Tiger Authority
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 10:24 pm to
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Harris? It's very good imo. Almost identical body types. Both are very skilled for their size and both enter college with some baby fat. Harris was probably slightly less athletic and more skilled/refined when he entered college, but the production will be very similar I'd bet.



Green. Harris is a much more apt comparison if we have to make comparisons of players that have played in the SEC in the last few years. I'm not sure why comparisons seem to be confined to that but that's seemingly what they did.
Posted by Tiger Authority
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 10:27 pm to
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I don't think it's a perfect comparison, but I do think it's valid. They're very similar physically (size, strength, athleticism) imo. Sure, Martin can shoot from three and that was never really a part of Green's game, but they're very similar otherwise.





LINK

Yeah, similar athletically.
This post was edited on 4/28/13 at 10:29 pm
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 10:27 pm to
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heavy reliance on newcomers


What makes us so much more heavily reliant than anyone else in the conference? Martin is the only freshmen we will "rely" on for scoring production. IS anyone else in the conference not going to have at least 1 freshmen contribute significantly? Isn't there a really good chance Chris Walker will come right in and start for you guys, or at worst, play 20+ minutes a game? Not sure how UF is any different in that aspect. I would certainly say there are way more teams in the SEC that will be more reliant on newcomers than us though.


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short backcourt


That's only with Hickey and Stringer, we have 6'4 Morgan who should make a good leap from his freshman year to this year and 6'5 Quarterman.


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head coach has no track record


At LSU? Sure. But he turned around North Texas into a winning program (a laughable program before he arrived) able to get them to the NCAAT a few times. If you saw North Texas this year, they completely fell apart, despite returning an NBA draft pick. They really missed him.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 10:29 pm to
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Harris? It's very good imo. Almost identical body types. Both are very skilled for their size and both enter college with some baby fat. Harris was probably slightly less athletic and more skilled/refined when he entered college, but the production will be very similar I'd bet.



I think you two are still forgetting it's April. Basketball doesnt start for another 6-7 months.

6-7 months ago Martin was in the 220 range. Now he's 15-20 pounds heavier. Things can change quickly.
Posted by GatorsGators
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 10:29 pm to
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It's unnecessary, it was more a subtle jab at your continued absolutes.

No shite imo.

My "absolutes" are my opinions imo. If you're going to take them the wrong way, then don't read them imo.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 10:31 pm to
I just respect opinions more when they're qualified to some degree. Somehow you're willing to debate about the merits of OM's frontcourt and guys that averaged about 5 minutes a game but you are unable to do the same when discussing LSU. It's odd.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 10:35 pm to
Jalen Courtney cant be our Demarco Cox now who explodes from 1-3 points a game after 3 years to double digits
This post was edited on 4/28/13 at 10:36 pm
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 10:36 pm to
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I just respect opinions more when they're qualified to some degree. Somehow you're willing to debate about the merits of OM's frontcourt and guys that averaged about 5 minutes a game but you are unable to do the same when discussing LSU. It's odd.

It's all relative. I don't think Ole Miss' frontcourt is going to be as bad as some expect. Do I think that it's going to one of the better frontcourts in the SEC? No. Do I think that it will be good enough to keep them around the bubble this season with a solid backcourt? Yes.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 10:36 pm to
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Jalen Courtney cant be our Demarco Cox now who explodes from 1-3 points a game after 3 years to double digits





The strange part is how serious he was about it.
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 10:38 pm to
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Yeah, similar athletically.

LINK

Green was pretty athletic, too. Their body types are nearly identical.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Member since Oct 2007
70876 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 10:39 pm to
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It's all relative. I don't think Ole Miss' frontcourt is going to be as bad as some expect. Do I think that it's going to one of the better frontcourts in the SEC? No. Do I think that it will be good enough to keep them around the bubble this season with a solid backcourt? Yes.



If Ole Miss is close to the NCAAT next year I'll eat a pile of dirt. They lost way too much and are adding....?
Posted by Tiger Authority
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 10:40 pm to
I was ready to have my mind blown with a post of Green putting together a similar dunk but my mind wasn't blown. He basically just performed a dunk that even Glen Davis could do.
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 10:44 pm to
Alright, here's a better dunk:

LINK
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
13784 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 10:45 pm to
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If Ole Miss is close to the NCAAT next year I'll eat a pile of dirt. They lost way too much and are adding....?

If it were as simple as additions and subtractions then UF wouldn't have made the NCAAT last season.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 10:46 pm to
That dunk shows me less than the prior dunk and does little to prove your theory that they're similar athletically. Green three years into college couldn't even handle the ball as well as Martin currently does.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 10:48 pm to
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If it were as simple as additions and subtractions then UF wouldn't have made the NCAAT last season.





Who are they adding to replace two of their three highest scorers?
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 10:49 pm to
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Alright, here's a better dunk:



Martin can do a backflip (there's a video). I dont think there's any question who is more athletic. I will saw Martin is still learning a lot about the game though, but his athleticism will carry him through college for a year (maybe even 2).
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
70876 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 10:50 pm to
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If it were as simple as additions and subtractions then UF wouldn't have made the NCAAT last season.



Because Ole Miss and Florida are comparable, is that what you're trying to say?
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