re: Patrick Surtain Jr. - LSU/Bama

I just requested within the last 30 minutes so hopefully I'll be on soon.

When I wrote that, all the information was correct - He was all Cane. To his coaches/mentors, Miami coaches, friends, "insiders", etc. Everybody that knew anything, and he himself confirmed many times that he was all Cane. The only thing I did stupidly was use what was happening over the 2yr span he was a Cane lock up to that moment, and used that to say what he would do on NSD with more confidence than I should have, given that I know the kid is flip-floppy, and that he's an idiot academically (why he went to CT). Plus, obviously I'm a homer, like every fan should be - which made me extra confident. Looking back, I think him moving to Creshire in CT was absolutely horrible for us because it took him away from all his friends he'd visit with on a regular basis and got him away from his 7v7 coach/mentor that is pretty pro canes and not about all the flip-flopping ...though he'd also be with his dad who is not to be trusted at all...so who knows if this would have changed anything. Anyways, Our Coaches were flying up there semi-frequently, and he was telling them all the right things and shite. But in November it became clear something had changed, and the reason why is pretty obvious. I know yall will just deny it, so not really a point in saying it, but its pretty common knowledge in South Florida that Jobe accepted bags - through his brother, Johnny Holton (wr for Raiders) and his dad was all about it. I'm sure anybody with actual knowledge of the situation will tell you the same. Yall don't gotta believe it, and yall can keep living in your fantasy land where most of these dudes don't get paid to go places.

As for where PS2 and TC will end up come NSD, well that really is random guessing, even their parents/family do not know at this point nor do the players themselves. But I know a couple of things. 1) there will be no bags involved. So whoever wins these recruiting battles did so out of purely out-recruiting the other schools, and their love of that school more.. 2)PS2, TC, Nesta Silvera are OVing to Miami the final week before NSD (and teamate Chatfield will probably come for an UV), and although it wasn't "confirmed" until today for PS2 (not sure if it even has been for TC yet?) this was the plan from the jump. TC from the very beginning was going to take his Miami OV the last week. This has always been the plan. 3)Mike Rumph the Miami CB coach and former player, is basically a 2nd father to these two. And thats not just my words or an exaggeration, thats a direct quote from TC. Rumph coached them in Optimist (pre-HS) - he's the one that put TC at CB and told him he was going to be a star, and was the AH head coach before accepting the Miami CB job - currently Surtain SR is HC. Miami has always been in it for these 2.

TC definitely loved UGA, and many AH coaches thought he could commit to them on his OV - though that was unlikely because dude was always going to use all his visits first. But Miami has always been in his top group from the very beginning. From when it was Ohio St and Clemson that were the main competitiors. Now its UGA we're up against, but we've been in the top group from the beginning.TC honestly could go to either 3 tbh. Not UT, they have no shot obviously.

PS2 was all about LSU most of the year. But he just isn't about Orgeron, and Bama has jumped LSU. Now Miami is in it, and his parents do want him to stay close to home - which is South Florida. That is just a fact, but its also a fact that they are leting him make whatever decision he wants.Richt is going to be going in home with PS2 on wednesday

Two things. If that's the same Mike Rumph the 49ers drafted man .... him lol. You have Mark Rich now you should get use to letting people come and take players from Miami. That was a serious statement not a joke at all.

Holy shite this is worse than your original post. Just stop man. It's fine to admit you have no idea what's going on. None of us really do. We are following the whims of high school kids

STFU! You know absolutely nothing

Hahahahaha what a dumbass

Saban is doing all he can to land damn Eddie smith dB from salmen in slidell. That doesn't look good for Bama on surtain. They're trying to sign any cb left that they can. Lol. Surtain will be at lsu. Btw signing day is coming really soon. Looks like desperation and a fallback for Bama like I thought.

So if you guys don't sign Surtain who are you guys going after.

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When I wrote that, all the information was correct - He was all Cane. To his coaches/mentors, Miami coaches, friends, "insiders", etc. Everybody that knew anything, and he himself confirmed many times that he was all Cane. The only thing I did stupidly was use what was happening over the 2yr span he was a Cane lock up to that moment, and used that to say what he would do on NSD with more confidence than I should have, given that I know the kid is flip-floppy, and that he's an idiot academically (why he went to CT). Plus, obviously I'm a homer, like every fan should be - which made me extra confident. Looking back, I think him moving to Creshire in CT was absolutely horrible for us because it took him away from all his friends he'd visit with on a regular basis and got him away from his 7v7 coach/mentor that is pretty pro canes and not about all the flip-flopping ...though he'd also be with his dad who is not to be trusted at all...so who knows if this would have changed anything. Anyways, Our Coaches were flying up there semi-frequently, and he was telling them all the right things and shite. But in November it became clear something had changed, and the reason why is pretty obvious. I know yall will just deny it, so not really a point in saying it, but its pretty common knowledge in South Florida that Jobe accepted bags - through his brother, Johnny Holton (wr for Raiders) and his dad was all about it. I'm sure anybody with actual knowledge of the situation will tell you the same. Yall don't gotta believe it, and yall can keep living in your fantasy land where most of these dudes don't get paid to go places.

As for where PS2 and TC will end up come NSD, well that really is random guessing, even their parents/family do not know at this point nor do the players themselves. But I know a couple of things. 1) there will be no bags involved. So whoever wins these recruiting battles did so out of purely out-recruiting the other schools, and their love of that school more.. 2)PS2, TC, Nesta Silvera are OVing to Miami the final week before NSD (and teamate Chatfield will probably come for an UV), and although it wasn't "confirmed" until today for PS2 (not sure if it even has been for TC yet?) this was the plan from the jump. TC from the very beginning was going to take his Miami OV the last week. This has always been the plan. 3)Mike Rumph the Miami CB coach and former player, is basically a 2nd father to these two. And thats not just my words or an exaggeration, thats a direct quote from TC. Rumph coached them in Optimist (pre-HS) - he's the one that put TC at CB and told him he was going to be a star, and was the AH head coach before accepting the Miami CB job - currently Surtain SR is HC. Miami has always been in it for these 2.

TC definitely loved UGA, and many AH coaches thought he could commit to them on his OV - though that was unlikely because dude was always going to use all his visits first. But Miami has always been in his top group from the very beginning. From when it was Ohio St and Clemson that were the main competitiors. Now its UGA we're up against, but we've been in the top group from the beginning.TC honestly could go to either 3 tbh. Not UT, they have no shot obviously.

PS2 was all about LSU most of the year. But he just isn't about Orgeron, and Bama has jumped LSU. Now Miami is in it, and his parents do want him to stay close to home - which is South Florida. That is just a fact, but its also a fact that they are leting him make whatever decision he wants.Richt is going to be going in home with PS2 on wednesday

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He just completely ignores he spent 6 months on the Bama board, and everyone kept telling him he was headed to Bama according to every Bama mod.

So ALL Bama mods knew 6 months ago we were going to drop off bags of cash?

Otherwise, why the confidence from the beginning with the mods?