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re: Grade the other SEC teams' crootin classes, thus far

Posted on 1/8/15 at 10:28 am to
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/8/15 at 10:28 am to
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I think he gives it a higher "Grade" because it is probably harder to achieve a class that is pretty much a inch behind UGA's class at a program that has had 7 straight seasons of at least 6 losses and in a state that doesn't just breed SEC football players


Fair enough.
Posted by socraticsilence
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/8/15 at 12:37 pm to
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He could have/should have taken more verbals early. The staff was lazy and were relying solely on the season. They kept telling guys, "if you are uncertain at all, just wait." They could have had many of the higher rated kids already committed. It was a lazy strategy that really screwed UF.



This, I think fans of other SEC teams have this odd view of Muschamp as this defensive genius who inheirited a bad situation and was learning but got run off by overly demanding fans; when in reality he was handed one of the top 5 rosters in America with loads of young talent and preceded to run the program into the ground with shoddy recruiting, disrespect for the fan base, and a program designed essentially to pump up his defense's statistical profile at the expense of wins and player development. Perhaps the best example of outside misperception is the belief that Muschamp is a good recruiter when the reality is Florida's current roster which reveals what recruiting rankings confirm, that Boom was the worst recruiter Florida's had since Spurrier (but lacks the genius and ability to develop players that allowed Spurrier to compensate).

Simply put the man was the second worst SEC coach of the last 15 years (after John L Smith) and only had the success he did have because Meyer left him talent. He is a good defensive coordinator but lacks the mental capacity and longterm vision to be a successful head coach.
This post was edited on 1/8/15 at 12:41 pm
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/8/15 at 12:39 pm to
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nly had the success he did have because Meyer left him talent.
I thought the UF stance was that Urban didn't leave much talent
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/8/15 at 12:41 pm to
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hen in reality he was handed one of the top 5 rosters in America with loads of young talent


He inherited a mess. He came in after Urban who basically spent his last year at UF letting the inmates run the asylum. What Urban did to Florida was almost cruel and the fact that he recruited nothing but players that would only specifically fit his style of offense didn't help matters. Will was never able to recover from the mess and was never able to fix the offense but I still think he is a hell of a defensive coach.
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 1/8/15 at 1:03 pm to
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hen in reality he was handed one of the top 5 rosters in America with loads of young talent
He inherited a mess. He came in after Urban who basically spent his last year at UF letting the inmates run the asylum. What Urban did to Florida was almost cruel and the fact that he recruited nothing but players that would only specifically fit his style of offense didn't help matters.
This is the narrative I remember UF fans spewing the past couple of years.

Amazing how present circumstances change the past, eh?
Posted by socraticsilence
Member since Dec 2013
1347 posts
Posted on 1/8/15 at 2:41 pm to
That was the stance from Muschamp apologists, but look at the recruiting rankings or heck look at the 2012 team where basically every major contributor was a Meyer recruit. Guy was a joke of a coach, couldn't recruit and was way, way, way over his head it's no shame some people just don't have the ability to be head coaches but can be very good assistants.
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
One Particular Harbor, Fl
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 1/8/15 at 3:18 pm to
Muschamp did inherit a mess. There was a bunch of NFL talent but they had a lot of attitude issues.

On the defensive side of the ball, UF is in good shape. Muschamp was a great defensive coach.

Offense is thin at OL despite Muschamp's stated goal of bring in a lot of linemen. "Line of Scrimmage league" was a common phrase at his pressers. Coaching turnover on the offensive side of the ball hurt recruiting and player development.

The locker room is in way better shape than when Muschamp took over. Numbers are pretty low prior to offseason attrition.
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