re: Georgia Recruiting Advantage

The point of the thread is about the amount of talent in the state and not where it went, not sure why that is such a difficult concept for you.

I actually have pointed out that Houston/SE Texas has more talent than all of Louisiana in the past btw. This year it has 4 5 Stars (Perkins, Harris, Weigmann, Banks). If A&M can get even 3 of those 4 they are probably going to have the #1 Recruiting Class. I'm thrilled Jimbo is doing so well focusing on Houston as A&M is the closest P5 to the area. The problem is it isn't like Louisiana because you have so many kids that have roots and loyalties to other areas. Texas has grown from less than 17 million when I graduated from HS to pushing 30 million now. That means a lot of transplants. Specifically for Houston there are a lot of Louisiana folks that moved there after Katrina as well that have ties back home.

For Georgia it is similar to Atlanta in that way, though Atlanta still has not grown as dramatically.

The numbers will always shift a bit year by year but there is no question the talent in the SEC footprint dwarfs everyone else.

"The disadvantage is the demographics of Texas have far less black population than much of the South, only about 12% (mainly in Houston/Southeast and DFW/Northeast). West of I35 and San Antonio on South have well under 5% and the simple reality is you tend to have more college football players that are black and there just aren't very many great Hispanic players proportionately."

There is no disadvantage. That's a cop out and a lame excuse...

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it’s only real competition in state is Georgia Tech and let’s be real… that ain’t the same when it comes to recruiting.

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Have not read thread so I’m sure it’s been pointed out: Tallahassee and Auburn are in counties that border Georgia, and Clemson is a stones throw away as well. They are all practically “in-state” schools as far as recruiting goes.

I don't disagree. I think Georgia is in a better overall position especially with being so close to Florida, South Carolina, and Alabama.

That said LSU is also close to Houston/Southeast Texas and culturally the area East of Houston is much more like LSU than UT but more of a wash with A&M, LSU does very well traditionally in the Golden Triangle especially near the border. This year is particularly loaded in the Houston/SE Region with 10 of the Top 100 Players in the country from there, the same number as the entire State of Georgia. That region and demographics are actually fairly similar as well in terms of population with Georgia being slightly larger.

As a sidenote, LSU only has 3 of the Top 10 from Louisiana currently committed and no commits from Texas. Kelly better fix that in a hurry or else the narrative of LSU locking down Louisiana will take a hit and it has already gotten harder for them to raid Texas recently.

Ok, explain this TX "disadvantage" for producing football players then. I'm ready for a good laugh...A&M has whiffed on most the greatest TXHSFB players of all-time and this dude is trying to say it's because of demographics.

You're basically saying, if TX had 35-40% black population like GA or LA then, it would be better at football...OK. Good. No one GAF. Recruit better.

I wasn't talking about A&M. The discussion was about the overall talent in Texas vs Georgia and other states and the positives and negatives of each. Yet you are trying to make this into some rant about A&M not winning or recruiting well enough in the past which has little to no relevance to that topic.

I don't understand your defensiveness about discussing why more black athletes in a state tends to result in more high end talent either. You aren't even arguing the truth of that you are just trying to create some competition smack talk.

Georgia has great talent. Texas has great talent. Most of the SEC has great talent. It's just helpful to understand where the talent is, why they tend to come from certain areas, and which areas are likely to be successful going forward. Then that relates to potential success of different schools in terms of recruiting (which doesn't necessarily translate to wins directly either).

To your point you seem insistent on debating though, there has only been one time period A&M has been dominant in recruiting in Texas prior to now and that was in the mid '80s to early '90s when A&M won 7* (one was on probation) Titles in 9 years. That was when Texas had almost half the population it does now. Texas also dominated Texas recruiting (though OU got quite a bit) in the '00s and won a Natty and should have won more honestly.

We will see what A&M does with this class and if they can sustain this level of recruiting. What is false though is to act like the current level of recruiting is where A&M has been. This year we will almost certainly have more 5 Stars than 3 Stars for instance, we have never done that before by any stretch.

This is a recruiting advantage thread brah.
I'm not the one in fantasy land with useless and dumb demographic stats. TX has enough quality players. You've got a recruiting gene pool roughly the size of the ENTIRE population of every SEC state except for FL & GA with more NFL HOFers than both of those states. FL, GA & TX produce great blk football players DUH....Youre not going to clone the blk population of TX 3x's to recruit better tho. That's just a dumb projection. No one cares.

Every school in TX outside of the MBrown era has sucked in recruiting the state's best players to one school, not just A&M. Until now...Jimbo's addressing that.

Another example of Georgia attracting coaches

Nibblet to leave Hoover for Georgia