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Posted on 1/30/12 at 9:02 am to
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 1/30/12 at 9:02 am to
Yea, we have had some really bad luck with OL recruits getting hurt and having to go on medical waivers. The armed robbery guys didn't help. It definitely hasn't been normal attrition which makes it harder to deal with. For the most part it has been stuff out of the staff's hands, besides the robbery.
Posted by Smash Mouth Tider
Member since Sep 2011
2466 posts
Posted on 1/30/12 at 9:03 am to
quote:

We are sitting at 16 (counting Transfer)
PROBABLE
1) Jordan Moore (Auburn or TCU)
2) Will Adams (Flip from GT)
3) Ricardo Louis
4) Darrin Peterson (Flip from Liberty)

Still in it (sign ????), most low probability, but we get between 0 to 2?
Young (OL)
Diamond (OL)
Darby (DB)
Goldman (DL)
Diggs(WR)
Patterson (WR)
Alexander (LB)
Williams (DL)
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We could get shut out, but I think we get at least 1, which would put us at 21, plus probable another plan B guy and stop at 22.


Wow, that would makes some aubies jump off the cliff right there.

I think you would have given B. Brown a firm offer, if it was looking that bad.
Posted by Sigma
Fairhope, AL
Member since Dec 2005
3652 posts
Posted on 1/30/12 at 9:05 am to
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Our secondary class is pretty damn good with the opportunity to be great.



Agreed. Assuming we get Moore, Darby is a luxury. Same thing at WR. Hold on to Williams and Louis and Diggs is a luxury.

One more OL (Young, Diamond, Adams) and one more DL (Goldman, Williams) would round out the class perfectly. We are doing a good job of filling needs this year, which I think can get overlooked sometimes.

We redshirted a solid group of LBs this year, and guys like Sigler and Niles on the DL have progressed.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
37506 posts
Posted on 1/30/12 at 9:12 am to
I would like one more lb but we will see.

Didn't Sigler move back to DE?
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38475 posts
Posted on 1/30/12 at 9:13 am to
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Darby (DB)
Goldman (DL)



+ Brown (LB)

I have no insider knowledge, just my WAG as to how we close.
Posted by Sigma
Fairhope, AL
Member since Dec 2005
3652 posts
Posted on 1/30/12 at 9:15 am to
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Didn't Sigler move back to DE?


I think so. I was comparing those two to Goldman and Williams. Don't get me wrong, I would love to have them. But if we're trying to balance our classes, then Niles and Sigler will only be RFr this fall. I've read some things recently that said Sigler is still growing.
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 1/30/12 at 9:15 am to
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The biggest title bump comes in year 3 anyways.



I like how yall keep trying to perpetuate this myth.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38475 posts
Posted on 1/30/12 at 9:17 am to
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1. Coaching turnover and cam investigation was huge. You think that didn't just kill recruiting?

2. The biggest title bump comes in year 3 anyways.



Plus, as a sop to Counselor Passive-Aggressive ( ), add those things to the fact that Bama has won TWO BCS titles in the last three years and its tougher.

The Bama thing makes it tougher for everybody in the SEC, but especially for Auburn.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
37506 posts
Posted on 1/30/12 at 9:18 am to
I'm still trying to find the post. When I do I'll bring it over here. It actually was very well done.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22482 posts
Posted on 1/30/12 at 9:20 am to
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Then went on to look at Chiz's first two classes. I knew you guys had attrition, but DAMN. 43% of those ywo classes are no longer with program and 40%


Three members of that class started on offense of Championship team -- Cam, Dyer, Mosely. All three are gone... does that change the impact those guys had in two years?... No.

The class was defense-heavy... seven, and possibly eight, of those signees could start on defense next year. Obviously there's been some unforseen circumstances -- Felony 4, Coleman's Leukemia, Christian's back, etc... doesn't change the fact that that class was good in 2010 and will be good in 2012.
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
16019 posts
Posted on 1/30/12 at 9:29 am to
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43% of those ywo classes are no longer with program and 40% of the 4 & 5 star kids are gone.


By my count, 25 kids from those two classes are gone.

5 from graduation or the draft.
7 didn't qualify academically.
1 went to pro baseball.
3 went to jail.
2 have taken medical hardships.
7 have transferred to other schools.
Posted by Sigma
Fairhope, AL
Member since Dec 2005
3652 posts
Posted on 1/30/12 at 9:33 am to
In all this worry about Young and Diamond, am I the only one who keeps forgetting that we already have 2 4-star OTs in this class, who also happen to already be on campus taking classes?
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
37506 posts
Posted on 1/30/12 at 9:34 am to
Logic be praised
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/30/12 at 9:44 am to
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I like how yall keep trying to perpetuate this myth.



I see the "realist" Aubie has offered another insightful post. I notice he only provides a negative hit and run sentence, or snippet on a current topic. However, his posts rarely provide any real value, or meaningful commentary. For instance, feel free to provide facts and opinion to back up the title bump comes every 3 years is a myth post I'm responding to.
Posted by NBamaAlum
Soul Patrolville
Member since Jan 2009
27604 posts
Posted on 1/30/12 at 9:55 am to
Year 3? I'm not arguing either way, but how is it then?
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
37506 posts
Posted on 1/30/12 at 10:00 am to
Again, once I find The study I'll post it, butit hasto do with when players really start getting on the Receuiting stuff. Kids that are already seniors have an idea, for the most part which schools they want to go to.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 1/30/12 at 10:00 am to
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Year 3? I'm not arguing either way, but how is it then?


Just one of those random stats with a small sample size that renders it meaningless, IMO.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 1/30/12 at 10:06 am to
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For instance, feel free to provide facts and opinion to back up the title bump comes every 3 years is a myth post I'm responding to.


I do not think the year 3 thing is very accurate. Recruiting rankings started when? Early 2000's? Then you have around 8-9 teams to look at that you count 3 years out from their NC and see how they did. That is too small of a sample size IMO. And there are way too many variables in that small of a sample size as well (like repeat champions during the 3 years, playing time available, etc).

When you have 20 years of data, then you have a sample size for this. Common sense says a bump 3 years later is unlikely to be greater than a bump 1 or 2 years later, all else being equal.
This post was edited on 1/30/12 at 10:07 am
Posted by TiggerWoods
Auburn
Member since Nov 2010
4175 posts
Posted on 1/30/12 at 10:06 am to
We have 65 returning scholarship players next year so we can bring in 20 anyway without some attrition.

This class is fine. We are basically set already considering we lost no one from last year. The coaches stocked up early and then decided to swing for the fence on the last few. They knew they were going to miss on most of those guys. They also know they didn't need a full class this year, unless they were expecting more attrition.

Posted by Lee County Tiger
I Haz Sources
Member since Oct 2009
33357 posts
Posted on 1/30/12 at 10:09 am to
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Year 3? I'm not arguing either way, but how is it then?



Something to do with Sophomores having no minds of their own and you being able to brainwash them that you're the greatest school ever, because they've never watched football until they watched your team win a National Title, and that's all that they know.




Or maybe because year 3 is when you have all of the money bonuses available after winning the title to pay recruits with. I don't know.
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