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re: 95 4* Derrell Scott (#3 All-Purpose Back) Commits to VOLS
Posted on 1/28/14 at 11:05 am to WheelRoute
Posted on 1/28/14 at 11:05 am to WheelRoute
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No. Scott is not an every down back.
you'd be saying the opposite if he commited to you...
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 12:07 pm to VFL1800FPD
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you'd be saying the opposite if he commited to you...
No, I wouldn't. Scott is a scat back. We knew this going in and recruited him to fill that role in our offense. Y'all did the same, it appears. Neither of our teams intends to run this guy b/w the tackles 20+ times a game.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 12:07 pm to WheelRoute
No offense but neither was Lattimore and when CSS did look what happened. So whose to say USC would not have done the same to him.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 12:10 pm to TideWarrior
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No offense but neither was Lattimore and when CSS did look what happened. So whose to say USC would not have done the same to him.
Lattimore was 35 lbs heavier than Scott coming out of high school. And his injuries weren't b/c he couldn't take a pounding. Do you even watch football?
Posted on 1/28/14 at 12:22 pm to WheelRoute
I watched CSS run him into the ground. So yes I do watch and I would never expect a USC fan to agree with that so please do not start some banter on how Lattimore was not used that way. And CSS always had ML in his best interest.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 12:36 pm to TideWarrior
As far as the Gurley/Marshall - Hurd/Scott comparison I think that's exactly what it will turn into. I don't think it'll be next year with Lane still there for his SR year, but I do think that's the plan going forward.
As far as Scott coming in ahead of Hurd, it's possible and I hope they both succeed. They're completely different types of backs so I'm sure they'll both see the ball in different situations. Especially if something happens to Marlin Lane this year. It's hard for me to see Scott edging out Hurd right now with Hurd being 40 lbs heavier and with faster top end speed. Either way we're all happy with this years RB class
As far as Scott coming in ahead of Hurd, it's possible and I hope they both succeed. They're completely different types of backs so I'm sure they'll both see the ball in different situations. Especially if something happens to Marlin Lane this year. It's hard for me to see Scott edging out Hurd right now with Hurd being 40 lbs heavier and with faster top end speed. Either way we're all happy with this years RB class
Posted on 1/28/14 at 12:39 pm to TideWarrior
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I watched CSS run him into the ground. So yes I do watch and I would never expect a USC fan to agree with that so please do not start some banter on how Lattimore was not used that way. And CSS always had ML in his best interest.
Yeah, when Knowson or Ingram gets 250 carries they're beasts but when Lattimore does and then blows out his knee while downfield blocking it's a moral and ethical conundrum.
Leaving all that aside, it still doesn't change the fact that Scott isn't going to be the featured back in an SEC offense anytime soon.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 12:47 pm to WheelRoute
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it still doesn't change the fact that Scott isn't going to be the featured back in an SEC offense anytime soon.
He doesn't have to be, either.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 12:52 pm to NorthGAVol
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He doesn't have to be, either.
I'm aware of that...
Posted on 1/28/14 at 12:59 pm to WheelRoute
The difference at least with Ingram, Richardson, and Lacy was each one only had one year over 200 carries. Lacy best was 204 carries his last year. MI avg. 14.6 over his career, TR avg. 14.2, and EL 10.75. Lattimore avg. 19 carries a year. His freshman year he avg. 18 per game. The next year that jumped 23 a game before he blew his knee out. The next he was back on pace at 17 a year after the knee and got injured again.
In the SEC that is a lot of pounding for a RB. I also got blasted when Marshall signed with UGA because I said he was not physical enough to be a feature back and would get hurt if he did not put on weight.
In the SEC that is a lot of pounding for a RB. I also got blasted when Marshall signed with UGA because I said he was not physical enough to be a feature back and would get hurt if he did not put on weight.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 1:00 pm to NorthGAVol
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He doesn't have to be, either
Damn right! Tenn got Scurd!!! (Scott-Hurd combo name, it's catching on everywhere.)
Posted on 1/28/14 at 1:01 pm to TRUERockyTop
I was not comparing Scott as a bruising type back to Gurley. But I think his productivity is going to be better overall vs. Hurd because I believe in CBJ offense he will be used more. A lot more versatility in my opinion.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 1:03 pm to CockInYourEar
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Damn right! Tenn got Scurd!!! (Scott-Hurd combo name, it's catching on everywhere.)
Can you please continue? My glass is almost out of tears. They're so delicious.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 1:18 pm to TideWarrior
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The difference at least with Ingram, Richardson, and Lacy was each one only had one year over 200 carries. Lacy best was 204 carries his last year. MI avg. 14.6 over his career, TR avg. 14.2, and EL 10.75. Lattimore avg. 19 carries a year. His freshman year he avg. 18 per game. The next year that jumped 23 a game before he blew his knee out. The next he was back on pace at 17 a year after the knee and got injured again.
A) Lattimore didn't wear down, he had two injuries that were pretty freakish
B) Plenty of CFB backs have gotten the same workload he did
C) Rotating RB's is a relatively new concept across CFB as whole
D) Bama is routinely accused of using up players emotionally and physically by NFL scouts
E) ALL of these players are destroying their bodies under the encouragement and supervision of coaches. Coaches have an ethical duty to limit that sort of abuse, but there's no clear rules on it, and Nick Saban has just as much dirt on his hands as any other coach.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 1:38 pm to WheelRoute
I provided numbers nothing more and they are not opinions. And if NFL scouts think UA is wearing down their backs that just goes to show how much Lattimore was overworked under CSS since he carried the ball 30% more over his career then the UA backs mentioned.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 2:03 pm to TideWarrior
Dude give it a rest already lattimore had four games in his entire career where he even went over 27 touches and all of them but two we're against GA. The other was against UF and another against navy. Also getting a lineman pushed into your knee on a blocking play or a lb cutting you at the knees doesn't = you blew out your knee from running.
Btw Lattimore was widely known to be a power back. Nobody ever claimed he was a scat back except you. Lattimore never had scat back speed.
Btw Lattimore was widely known to be a power back. Nobody ever claimed he was a scat back except you. Lattimore never had scat back speed.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 2:06 pm to NorthGAVol
Posted on 1/28/14 at 2:43 pm to TideWarrior
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I provided numbers nothing more and they are not opinions. And if NFL scouts think UA is wearing down their backs that just goes to show how much Lattimore was overworked under CSS since he carried the ball 30% more over his career then the UA backs mentioned.
Your numbers reflect a heavy workload for a RB but they are not extreme. Great college RBs used to get 1000+ carries before the NFL.
And my comment a/b Bama wasn't limited to their RBs. It includes all players.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 4:23 pm to CarolinaCock
Maybe reading comprehension is not a requirement in your educational background but where did I say ML was a scat back. I actually have never used that term in this thread.
I only gave my opinion that ML got overused. Have yours and enjoy because it will not change mine and as stated before I would not expect and USC fan to think any less of the Old Ball Coach.
I only gave my opinion that ML got overused. Have yours and enjoy because it will not change mine and as stated before I would not expect and USC fan to think any less of the Old Ball Coach.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 4:30 pm to WheelRoute
I am not sure how many top RBs are coming out with a 1000+ carries nowadays. There may be a few but I also doubt many of them come from power conferences with top defenses like the SEC.
Regarding ML I feel he could have been spared some time on the field. Were the injuries a fluke maybe but they happened because he was out there. Limit the times out there and limit chances. It just seems that CSS never looked to relieve him.
Regarding ML I feel he could have been spared some time on the field. Were the injuries a fluke maybe but they happened because he was out there. Limit the times out there and limit chances. It just seems that CSS never looked to relieve him.
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