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Posted on 4/13/17 at 1:00 pm to Tillman
Posted on 4/13/17 at 1:00 pm to Tillman
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Watson was playing with 3 NFL WRs, a NFL TE, and a NFL RB.
So are you saying he's really not that good and that his success was due to the surrounding talent?
Hmm. Kinda contradicts your statements about Watson being better than almost everyone else, huh?
And by the way, in case you didn't know, most of that talent you just described won't be suiting up for Clemson this Fall.
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your it was all watson narrative is so dumb. lol
Well seeing as Clemson didn't do jack shite with CJ Spiller, Sammy Watkins, Dwayne Allen and DeAndre Hopkins, I'd say not having a QB as good as Watson kept them from reaching the level they currently enjoy.
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 1:11 pm to Tillman
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just the fact you are monitoring Clemson's spring game despite being a Clemson hater is sign of something, I think.
Ummm what? I'm a Clemson hater, based on what?
And why did you bring LSU into this? We're completely irrelevant to the conversation, and no, I dont think we have a good chance of winning the title. I think we are clearly behind Alabama this year.
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 4/13/17 at 1:14 pm to TideSaint
Boyd and company won an ACC title, and beat LSU and OSU in bowl games. that doesn't sound like nothing to me. Clemson beat Okla, a program with brand as you see it, in a bowl with Cole Stoudt, Okla scored like 6 points.
CLemson has won 10 plus games 6 seasons in a row, that started prior to Watson.
Only one other program has won 10 plus games the last 6 seasons, ALabama.
your narratives are so forced it is obvious you got CLemson your brain. Lville had a good QB but they lost 4 games.
Clemson won the natty because it was a balanced team.
CLemson has won 10 plus games 6 seasons in a row, that started prior to Watson.
Only one other program has won 10 plus games the last 6 seasons, ALabama.
your narratives are so forced it is obvious you got CLemson your brain. Lville had a good QB but they lost 4 games.
Clemson won the natty because it was a balanced team.
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 4/13/17 at 1:15 pm to Tillman
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Watson was playing with 3 NFL WRs, a NFL TE, and a NFL RB.
your it was all watson narrative is so dumb. lol
Same team the year before as well but could not get the job done. But you forgot about that I see. Which goes to my other point the ability to develop. The year before last CU had probably the better pure talent but could not get it done and your staff got out coached. The same thing almost happened this year as we ran a true freshman QB against a potential 1st rounder this year and still almost won.
Look enjoy your moment but until CU can sustain as a program, which no one can say it will, but until it actually happens you are just acting like any little girl that is a tater fan that is clueless.
Posted on 4/13/17 at 1:17 pm to TideWarrior
you are stupid, Bama faced CLemson the first year without Mike Williams and Deon Cain, our two most talented WRs. would have won the game if not for the two special teams busts in the 4th quarter.
plus mckensie alexander couln't play in 2nd half which played in a role in the busts on bama's TE. Shaq Lawson wasn't 100 percent.
Bama plays a bunch of programs in the SEC that can't score and/or defend. only way a program can win their conference that often is a lack of competitiveness within the conference. you guys expect to win it again this year, obviously you don't think it is a very good conference. you think it is automatic you win a conference with a QB who isn't a great passer. lol
i'm not projecting Clemson to win ACC because I think there are some good teams that can beat CLemson. that doesn't mean Clemson sucks if they fail to win ACC. it is not realistic if your team is in a competitive conference for your team to win it every season. Clemson is in a division with FSU and so far no conference is getting more than 1 team into the playoffs.
if ALabama was in CLemson's spot, would Bama beat FSU every year. lol I don't think you see 6, 7, 8 game winning streaks against FSU. lol
plus mckensie alexander couln't play in 2nd half which played in a role in the busts on bama's TE. Shaq Lawson wasn't 100 percent.
Bama plays a bunch of programs in the SEC that can't score and/or defend. only way a program can win their conference that often is a lack of competitiveness within the conference. you guys expect to win it again this year, obviously you don't think it is a very good conference. you think it is automatic you win a conference with a QB who isn't a great passer. lol
i'm not projecting Clemson to win ACC because I think there are some good teams that can beat CLemson. that doesn't mean Clemson sucks if they fail to win ACC. it is not realistic if your team is in a competitive conference for your team to win it every season. Clemson is in a division with FSU and so far no conference is getting more than 1 team into the playoffs.
if ALabama was in CLemson's spot, would Bama beat FSU every year. lol I don't think you see 6, 7, 8 game winning streaks against FSU. lol
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 4/13/17 at 1:25 pm to Tillman
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Bama plays a bunch of programs in the SEC that can't score and/or defend. only way a program can win their conference that often is a lack of competitiveness within the conference. you guys expect to win it again this year, obviously you don't think it is a very good conference.
The SEC has the biggest collection of talent of any conference, it's not a lack of competition, the fact is Alabama is the only program in the entire country that's been literally recession proof the last several years. You're talking about a team that for the last 6 years hasn't lost more than 2 games, in 4 of the 6 years hasn't lost more than 1 game. They've won 4 of the last 8 national titles and played for another. After their tough first year under Saban they have only been to a bowl game less than Sugar Bowl once...and that was still the best non BCS bowl at the time in the Capital One Bowl. They have what, 7 or 8 straight #1 recruiting classes? They have a talent stranglehold never seen before. Over ANYONE, not just the SEC.
The fact is they wouldn't have seen any less success in any other conference, they just are that good right now.
Posted on 4/13/17 at 1:26 pm to thunderbird1100
they have a 6 game winning streak against LSU, probably the 2nd most consistent program in the SEC.
that's a lack of competitiveness in the SEC.
you not beating FSU 6 seasons in a row.
Clemson rarely beats G Tech in atlanta.
that's a lack of competitiveness in the SEC.
you not beating FSU 6 seasons in a row.
Clemson rarely beats G Tech in atlanta.
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 4/13/17 at 1:31 pm to Tillman
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they have a 6 game winning streak against LSU, probably the 2nd most consistent program in the SEC.
that's a lack of competitiveness in the SEC.
Yet the SEC doesnt seem to struggle much against anyone else. That's an incredibly dumb connection on your part to assume that because 1 team hasn't beaten them in the last 6 tries the entire SEC isn't competitive. Not to mention we've been down the last 5 years overall. Other SEC teams have beaten them in that time frame. Also, how SEC teams do against them aren't the measure of success for the SEC as conference, the measure of success is how the teams in the conference do against other conferences, which by in large during the last several years, the SEC has done rather well.
Posted on 4/13/17 at 1:32 pm to thunderbird1100
when you can predict Alabama will win the SEC correctly most every season, there is a lack of competitiveness.
i don't see a diff b/t SEC right now and ACC back in the 90s when FSU always won it.
a lot of it is SEC programs seem hellbent on run heavy offenses which plays into what Alabama wants to see on defense.
saban wants to ban hurry up spread offenses so he telling you what he fears.
if I was a SEC program, i'd be hiring coaches like that texas tech coach. you need to call in the airforce to dethrone Saban. start passing the damn ball and go win yourself a natty. Clemson gave you the blueprint.
instead SEC programs are hiring DC like Muschamp. lol
you think any dynamic player on offense gets excited about playing for a DC like that. lol
i don't see a diff b/t SEC right now and ACC back in the 90s when FSU always won it.
a lot of it is SEC programs seem hellbent on run heavy offenses which plays into what Alabama wants to see on defense.
saban wants to ban hurry up spread offenses so he telling you what he fears.
if I was a SEC program, i'd be hiring coaches like that texas tech coach. you need to call in the airforce to dethrone Saban. start passing the damn ball and go win yourself a natty. Clemson gave you the blueprint.
instead SEC programs are hiring DC like Muschamp. lol
you think any dynamic player on offense gets excited about playing for a DC like that. lol
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 4/13/17 at 1:37 pm to Tillman
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a lot of it is SEC programs seem hellbent on run heavy offenses
You know how I know you don't watch a lot of SEC football?
Posted on 4/13/17 at 1:38 pm to TideSaint
lol
LSU couldn't even score at home against Bama. not even a FG.
they can't pass the ball. they got good RBs but all ALabama got to do is stack up against the run b/c they know LSU can't pass it.
all LSU needed was 11 points and they win that game. lol
you got to embrace a more exciting brand of offense becuase bama built to stop the run.
there isnt any good reason why several SEC teams couldn't have been doing what CLemson has been doing on offense the last 6 years. you just need to get a coach with the right philosophy on offense. stop hiring all these DCs. lol get some OCs for head coach.
i hope somebody can make the SEC great again.
i may shed tears this year if a SEC team other than Bama wins the conference.
LSU couldn't even score at home against Bama. not even a FG.
they can't pass the ball. they got good RBs but all ALabama got to do is stack up against the run b/c they know LSU can't pass it.
all LSU needed was 11 points and they win that game. lol
you got to embrace a more exciting brand of offense becuase bama built to stop the run.
there isnt any good reason why several SEC teams couldn't have been doing what CLemson has been doing on offense the last 6 years. you just need to get a coach with the right philosophy on offense. stop hiring all these DCs. lol get some OCs for head coach.
i hope somebody can make the SEC great again.
i may shed tears this year if a SEC team other than Bama wins the conference.
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 4/13/17 at 1:43 pm to Tillman
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when you can predict Alabama will win the SEC correctly most every season, there is a lack of competitiveness.
Put them in any other conference, guess who's typically going to win it? They will. Doesn't show a lack of competitiveness of a conference, just shows how far ahead they are talent wise than everyone. Again, they have played in one of the highest level big bowls/playoff game 7 of the last 8 years. You certainly cant sit here with a straight face and say the SEC wasn't competitive in all those years. It's been arguably the best conference every single year except last year.
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i don't see a diff b/t SEC right now and ACC back in the 90s when FSU always won it.
Except FSU won half as many national titles during that time frame that Bama has and the ACC was a joke back then compared to how the SEC is now. Completely different. You cannot even come close to comparing the 2 scenarios.
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a lot of it is SEC programs seem hellbent on run heavy offenses which plays into what Alabama wants to see on defense.
They seem to do fine against teams from other conferences, and this is a gross over exaggeration on your part.
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 4/13/17 at 1:44 pm to thunderbird1100
lol i don't think Bama going to win it every season in ACC or Big 10, and probably not PAC 10 a few year ago when both Oregon and Stanford were better.
big 12 teams throw the ball too , saban would be in a nightmare in that conference with Hurts at QB. lol
big 12 teams throw the ball too , saban would be in a nightmare in that conference with Hurts at QB. lol
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 4/13/17 at 1:44 pm to Tillman
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lol
LSU couldn't even score at home against Bama. not even a FG.
they can't pass the ball. they got good RBs but all ALabama got to do is stack up against the run b/c they know LSU can't pass it.
all LSU needed was 11 points and they win that game. lol
you got to embrace a more exciting brand of offense becuase bama built to stop the run.
So your rebuttal is to bring up one team in LSU that had two of the best running backs in the country in the same backfield last season?
Tell you what. Let's compare two completely opposite SEC and ACC teams in Arkansas and Florida State (you know, the team whose QB you like so much).
Here are their stats from last season:
The "run heavy" Arkansas QB, Austin Allen, passed the ball 401 times last season.
Deondre Francois? 400 passing attempts.
How about rushing numbers?
Florida State totaled 518 carries.
Arkansas? 517.
Kinda throws your ridiculous argument out the window, huh?
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 4/13/17 at 1:45 pm to TideSaint
i'm talking about balance, SEC teams lack balance. i'm not saying pass it every time. lol
Posted on 4/13/17 at 1:49 pm to Tillman
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i'm talking about balance, SEC teams lack balance. i'm not saying pass it every time. lol
Wait a minute. NOW you are talking about balance? Like Florida State balance? You know, the bell cow of the ACC type balance?
Arkansas had damn near identical offensive numbers in both passing and rushing.
The difference is one is the top tier team in your conference and the other is a middle of the pack team in ours.
Posted on 4/13/17 at 1:52 pm to TideSaint
the difference is Ark's defense is saran wrap. balance includes balance on offense and defense.
ark wasn't middle tier last year, they were last tier. lol
ark wasn't middle tier last year, they were last tier. lol
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 4/13/17 at 1:53 pm to Tillman
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lol i don't think Bama going to win it every season in ACC or Big 10, and probably not PAC 10 a few year ago when both Oregon and Stanford were better.
Newsflash: They havent won it every year in the SEC either since they got great in 2008. They've won it the last 3 years, which, considering they've gone to the playoffs and won 3 games in them in those 3 years and lost 2 games that went down to the final whistle against the eventual national champions, I'd say they probably would've done just as good in any other conference in that time frame.
Posted on 4/13/17 at 1:54 pm to thunderbird1100
ok so you thiknk alabama would be 6-0, about to go 7-0 against Clemson, Ohio State, Stanford, Oklahoma, FSU, etc if they played in same conference?
Posted on 4/13/17 at 1:55 pm to Tillman
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Bama plays a bunch of programs in the SEC that can't score and/or defend.
I will use your logic here and I am sure you will deflect.
In the last 6 years Clemson has gone:
16-10 vs teams they played that were ranked at the time.
During the regular season has only played two seasons where they saw 3 or more ranked teams during those regular seasons games and in those they went 0-3 & 3-1. The 4 other seasons they5-2 during the regular season. That is what you call a padded and weak schedule.
And against the so called weak SEC you like to talk about that can not score or defend during the last 6 seasons Clemson is 5-5 vs ranked SEC teams.
That is no dynasty or anywhere close to it just because you won 1 NC.
Alabama during that time has gone 25-5 during the regular season vs. ranked teams and overall 35-8 vs ranked teams with 3 NCs.
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