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re: 5* Kyle Davis - WR from Georgia Sets Commitment Date
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:05 am to Crowknowsbest
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:05 am to Crowknowsbest
That's fair and a good point so I took it out. Wasn't trying to twist facts. I'm not saying a WR shouldn't go to UGA, but there is no evidence at this time that going to either school in lieu of the other is a mistake.
There are a lot of legit arguments on why he would fit "Scheme X" better than "Scheme Y", how he would fit in the depth chart, playing time etc.
Saying that he would make a "horrible mistake" is pretty absurd though. It may be a "mistake" in that he could have a better career elsewhere but NOTHING suggests that historically he will make a "horrible mistake"
There are a lot of legit arguments on why he would fit "Scheme X" better than "Scheme Y", how he would fit in the depth chart, playing time etc.
Saying that he would make a "horrible mistake" is pretty absurd though. It may be a "mistake" in that he could have a better career elsewhere but NOTHING suggests that historically he will make a "horrible mistake"
This post was edited on 10/21/15 at 11:06 am
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Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:41 am to GenesChin
Nice
Posted on 10/21/15 at 12:34 pm to GenesChin
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I'm not saying a WR shouldn't go to UGA, but there is no evidence at this time that going to either school in lieu of the other is a mistake.
I think people just always want to see their on school in the best possible light while ignoring the accomplishments of the other. AU has had some stud receivers as well as Georgia. I don't think him choosing one or the other is going to determine whether or not he has a better future in the NFL. Both teams have put players in the NFL at that position.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 12:35 pm to Crowknowsbest
Also conveniently left out the 2012 season
AU
Emory Blake- 789 yds
Philip Lutz. - 139 yds
CJ Uzumah- 136 yds
Onterio McCalebb- 132 yds
Trovon Reed- 122 yds
UGA
Tavarres King- 950 yds
Malcolm Mitchell- 572 yds
Marlon Brown- 469 yds (1/2 season)
Arthur Lynch- 461 yds
Michael Bennett- 346 yds
AU
Emory Blake- 789 yds
Philip Lutz. - 139 yds
CJ Uzumah- 136 yds
Onterio McCalebb- 132 yds
Trovon Reed- 122 yds
UGA
Tavarres King- 950 yds
Malcolm Mitchell- 572 yds
Marlon Brown- 469 yds (1/2 season)
Arthur Lynch- 461 yds
Michael Bennett- 346 yds
Posted on 10/21/15 at 12:43 pm to SICEMDAWGS11
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lso conveniently left out the 2012 season
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Let's do a nice comparison of AU #1/#2 WR under Gus vs UGA
No I didn't.
Gus years 2009-2011 , 2013-2014
This post was edited on 10/21/15 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 10/21/15 at 12:48 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
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AU has had some stud receivers as well as Georgia.
Even as an Auburn fan that is generous to our WRs. We've had a lot of guys work their tails off and put out solid seasons. Only Coates/Duke had NFL skills/athleticism
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I don't think him choosing one or the other is going to determine whether or not he has a better future in the NFL
Completely agree. Neither UGA nor Auburn are WR-U and neither school are WR black holes.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 1:02 pm to SICEMDAWGS11
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Also conveniently left out the 2012 season
Wouldn't you?
Posted on 10/21/15 at 1:08 pm to gatorhata9
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Wouldn't you?
I wouldn't trash talk UF being a horrible mistake by saying "UF QBs sure sucked during the 2011-2014" McElwain is not Muschamp and those years are in no way relevant to future QB play as a result.
I could have used Gus' Arkansas State WRs for 2012 but that would be biased as it wasn't SEC play
This post was edited on 10/21/15 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 10/21/15 at 1:25 pm to GenesChin
I was referring to Auburn's O, sure WRS have been plenty successful there but in the last decade how many WRS from the spread have translated to the NFL? Dez Bryant, Michael Crabtree and when he is not suspended Josh Gordon are the only one's that come to mind. Tavon Austin and Stedman Bailey for the Rams admitted this preseason they still have not figured out the pro style O. It's not just QB's that don't translate well from these type of O's, WRS have a very hard time if they are lucky enough to be drafted, Coates has not been active for a game this yr and when Kevin White returns he has a major learning curve ahead. Amari Cooper was off and running from the first snap like AJ Green and Julio Jones. If Davis wants to play in the league it would be in his best interest to find a pro style O, these are the facts.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 1:40 pm to DahlonegaDawg
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If Davis wants to play in the league it would be in his best interest to find a pro style O, these are the facts.
Clearly you don't know what a "fact" is because that is an opinion. I'll demonstrate below how yo udon't know wtf you are talking about
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how many WRS from the spread have translated to the NFL?
A whole lot of them actually, most are ahead of Amari Cooper who had that "Pro Style" advantage
The current NFL receiving leader Deandre Hopkins
Keenan Allen
Jeremy Maclin
Demaryius Thomas
Ty Hilton
Dez Bryant
Michael Crabtree
DeSean Jackson
Jordan Matthews
Randall Cobb
Jordy Nelson
Wes Welker
Mike Evans
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t's not just QB's that don't translate well from these type of O's,
You mean like how Cam Newton > Christian Ponder, Jake Locker who were from Pro Style Os?
Or how Marcus Mariota is making Jameis Winston and his vast pro style tutoring look like a child?
This post was edited on 10/21/15 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 10/21/15 at 2:19 pm to GenesChin
A lot of the WRS you mentioned played in a spread with a lot of pro style concepts, I forgot about Bey Bey from GA. Tech, and I did think Mariota would be a exception to the rule. The only point I was trying to get across is if you are a young QB or WR with NFL aspirations it is so much easier if you find a pro style O, I was not bashing Auburn in any way. Only one team in the league really runs a college based O and that's Carolina, but there is only 1 6'5 250lb freak known as Cam Newton with a laser for a arm.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 2:32 pm to DahlonegaDawg
Very few "spread" teams don't incorporate NFL concepts.
Now I am explaining to you that you don't know wtf you are talking about by giving actual counter arguments and evidence of how wrong you are.
For example
Clearly you have never watched the Eagles play.
More importantly here is CBS explaining how the NFL is becoming a spread offense league LINK
So Dorothy, you can keep repeating the party line or you can wake up and realize you arent on some UGA website and people actually know wtf they are talking about here. They aren't just lemmings who believe Mark Richt is such a good guy karma is going to do him a solid
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The only point I was trying to get across is if you are a young QB or WR with NFL aspirations it is so much easier if you find a pro style O,
Now I am explaining to you that you don't know wtf you are talking about by giving actual counter arguments and evidence of how wrong you are.
For example
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Only one team in the league really runs a college based O and that's Carolina
Clearly you have never watched the Eagles play.
More importantly here is CBS explaining how the NFL is becoming a spread offense league LINK
So Dorothy, you can keep repeating the party line or you can wake up and realize you arent on some UGA website and people actually know wtf they are talking about here. They aren't just lemmings who believe Mark Richt is such a good guy karma is going to do him a solid
This post was edited on 10/21/15 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 10/21/15 at 3:59 pm to GenesChin
Can you explain to us "Dorothy's" why Auburn doesn't produce NFL caliber WR's? The foundation of your argument is based on success from other college teams.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 4:15 pm to Glory, Glory
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The foundation of your argument is based on success from other college teams.
The foundation of his argument is that neither Auburn nor uga have had a massive amount of success or no success in putting receivers in the league. When the newbie tried to change the argument to offensive styles, showed once again that newbie is full of shite.
The long and short of it is that KD will not have any easier or harder of a path to the league at Auburn or uga.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 4:22 pm to Glory, Glory
My only argument was that neither Auburn nor UGA are WR-U and there is no evidence to suggest one school is better than another for a random WR
A UGA fan made a dumb remark that going to AU as a WR is a "horrible mistake." I refuted all his ridiculous claims he made by giving evidence showing how wrong he is.
In particular, "success from other college teams" was in direct response to the UGA poster claiming it is a FACT that Spread WRs are "lucky to be drafted" and will have a "very very hard time" in relation to the pro style counterparts.
NFL WRs: UGA- 3 AU - 2
UGA historically recruits more talented/higher rated WRs as well.
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The foundation of your argument is based on success from other college teams.
A UGA fan made a dumb remark that going to AU as a WR is a "horrible mistake." I refuted all his ridiculous claims he made by giving evidence showing how wrong he is.
In particular, "success from other college teams" was in direct response to the UGA poster claiming it is a FACT that Spread WRs are "lucky to be drafted" and will have a "very very hard time" in relation to the pro style counterparts.
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why Auburn doesn't produce NFL caliber WR's?
NFL WRs: UGA- 3 AU - 2
UGA historically recruits more talented/higher rated WRs as well.
This post was edited on 10/21/15 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 10/21/15 at 4:31 pm to JamalSanders
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JamalSanders
I don't know why they seem think I am "attacking" UGA and trying to suggest Auburn is better somehow. I am only pointing out that statistically neither school has a claim as the "better WR option"
If someone made an argument that Kyle Davis belongs in a pro style offense because of his skill set, that is a legit argument. The blanket statement that WRs should want to be in a pro style offense is absolutely moronic.
Similarly, a blanket statement that UGA is a better school than Auburn (or Auburn > UGA) for WRs is moronic. Neither school can confidently claim that
This post was edited on 10/21/15 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 10/21/15 at 5:02 pm to GenesChin
That's complete BS Mary, and yes I've seen Philly play plenty. Anyway back to the topic, if Auburn bags KD I will wish the young man the best except of course when he plays UGA. He seems like he has a good head on his shoulders and will be a future #1 for either Auburn or UGA, I think the Vols are a distant 3rd for his signature.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 5:06 pm to GenesChin
We only have three in the NFL? Strange, it feels like we have way more.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 5:10 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
AJ, Conley and is Durham still in the league? Marlon Brown with the Ravens, that's all I have from the top of my head. Mitchell is making himself some money this yr, I could see him getting drafted on the 2nd day.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 5:12 pm to DahlonegaDawg
KD's father thinks he fits better in the spread, that was well documented this summer.
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