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re: 2025 4* RB Waltez Clark commits to the Gators on 9/16... drops 35 spots on 9/17...

Posted on 9/20/23 at 7:38 am to
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 9/20/23 at 7:38 am to
He is playing for essentially a superteam in his senior year , he should be tearing it up.

No one is saying he should be a 3 star, but I don't think he deserves to be the number 1 player either. I think Sayin is clearly the better prospect at this point and the rankings are starting to reflect that. Then after Sayin you put Raiola, Kromehoek, Lagway, and probably Air Noland in that next tier and rank them however you want.


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here have been kids that have been giving 5 stars to kids


Posted by ColoradoElkHerd
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Posted on 9/20/23 at 12:37 pm to
Recruiting rankings are only a general indicator. Very often wrong. A lot of Aggies beotched about signing Anias Smith as 3 star. Said "wasted scholarship".
This post was edited on 9/20/23 at 12:38 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:34 pm to
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Sure…. But within 24hrs? Seems sus.
What is an acceptable time frame? I mean what difference does it make if it is 24 hours or 24 days? The drop is the drop and it happens to all of the schools.

I think it is suspect that Bowens was ranked higher when he was a Florida commit but is now a lower ranked player now that he is committed to Georgia.
Posted by DawgsLife
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Member since Jun 2013
60633 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:45 pm to
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He is playing for essentially a superteam in his senior year , he should be tearing it up.




Really? Let's take a look

KJ Bolden 5*---on defense (Does play WR, too but he is a 5* on defense
Edrrick Houston 5* Defense
Tyshun White 3*--Defense
Koby Blackwell Low 3*-Athlete
Martrice Dillard-Low 3* DLineman
Bryson Banks-Low 3* LB

Would you mind pointing out all of those Superteam offensive players that are supposed to be helping him out?

You want to know how we can tell you don't know anything about Georgia High School football?

Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
37923 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 2:39 pm to
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I think it is suspect that Bowens was ranked higher when he was a Florida commit but is now a lower ranked player now that he is committed to Georgia.


chauncey got a bump within 48 hrs of flipping. that's a solid timeframe for an insider to know something before an announcement. plus he was on a georgia visit that same weekend... very sus.

Posted by ExpoTiger
Member since Jul 2014
7018 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 2:52 pm to
Alabama has 18 5 star quarterbacks on their roster and not one of them can complete a forward pass. I trust coaches over recruiting g sites but coaches get wrong a bunch too.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:40 pm to
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He is playing for essentially a superteam in his senior year , he should be tearing it up.


Who are the big time OL prospects?
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
5170 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 6:46 am to
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You want to know how we can tell you don't know anything about Georgia High School football?


Yeah, because Buford really struggles right?

Even still, you didn't even name the prospects in other classes

They have a 4 star OT next year and a RB with offers from Michigan and UGA.

Also, are you implying a good defense doesn't help out a QB?

Apparently I know Georgia HS ball better than you do.

You're an absolute clown.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
5170 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 6:52 am to
He has a 4 star OT which is more than what most HS QB prospects have.

Imagine going with "he doesn't have an OL" as your argument here when Buford stomps most of the teams they play, while also being wrong about the premise in the first place
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60633 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 7:36 am to
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Yeah, because Buford really struggles right?

No, because they do have a superteam defensively. But, in case you didn't notice, the player in question is a QB. Since you can't seem to put 1+1 together, that means he plays offense. Again. I gave you the top players on Bufords team. Show me all of the superteam offensive players that supposedly gives Raiola all of his success.

YOU'RE the one that made the statement. back it up or back out of the discussion.

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Even still, you didn't even name the prospects in other classes

Ok. 2025

Perlotte- 5* LB
Jacobs- 4* OT
Walker-3* LB
Baker Mid 3* RB
Allen Mid 3* WR

2026
Perry-White-4* DLineman


Still waiting for you to admit you know nothing about Buford or Georgia High School football.

I'll make a deal. You take all of Buford's SuperTeam offensive players and i will take all of their defensive players and we'll see who wins the game.

Time for you to bow out.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60633 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 7:37 am to
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He has a 4 star OT which is more than what most HS QB prospects have.


Which pretty much sums up the offensive talent he has around him.

Admit it. You're talking about something you know less than nothing about.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60633 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 7:40 am to
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They have a 4 star OT next year and a RB with offers from Michigan and UGA.



Teams put out 200-300 offers a year. That really impresses you? The RB is a mid 3* with a .87 rating and is currently the #45 player in Georgia's class for 2025. Is that the Super Team players you are talking about?

Don't double down on dumb takes. Own them and move on.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
5170 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 10:13 am to
I'm not the one floundering and replying twice to a comment because I got called out. you're a clown and don't know what you're talking about. You should stop posting, or at least start watching football.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38150 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 12:26 pm to
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He has a 4 star OT which is more than what most HS QB prospects have.


Own decent sec prospect? Thanks for proving your point wrong. Tell us about the other guys. The amount of pressure this OL has given up is absurd. It’s been a bad OL this season.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
5170 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 12:42 pm to
Its a free country, if you want to blame your 5 Star QB's not-exactly-5-star performance spanning multiple years on a bad OL this year you are absolutely free to do so.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60633 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 1:36 pm to
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I'm not the one floundering and replying twice to a comment because I got called out. you're a clown and don't know what you're talking about. You should stop posting, or at least start watching football.



Ok. Then answer my question. Name all of the Super Team offensive players that is helping Raiola. I asked awhile back and all you could come up with was 1 OT and then went on about a RB that would never be accepted at Georgia or Michigan.

Clowns are people that continue with an argument even after it has been proven incorrect, and then call other posters names because you can't back up your own argument.

I should start watching football but you are the one saying Raiola benefits from some super offensive players surrounding him.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
5170 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 1:51 pm to
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should start watching football but you are the one saying Raiola benefits from some super offensive players surrounding him.


I'm not saying he benefits, I'm saying he should be playing better. Big difference there.

You're a QB on one of the best teams in the country. No excuses. Put up the stats and prove you're the number 1 player in the country.

Plenty of QB recruits put up good stats with a bad offensive line because most high schools don't have a good offensive line

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RB that would never be accepted at Georgia or Michigan.


Maybe you should call Kirby and get him to rescind the offer then, DawgsTard
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60633 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 3:02 pm to
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I'm not saying he benefits, I'm saying he should be playing better. Big difference there.

No there isn't. You said he should be playing better because he was playing for a Superteam. Explain how playing with pedestrian offensive players should have him playing better.
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You're a QB on one of the best teams in the country. No excuses. Put up the stats and prove you're the number 1 player in the country.

Plenty of QB recruits put up good stats with a bad offensive line because most high schools don't have a good offensive line
So, your very best argument is that if a Georgia player loses ranking it is justified but if it happens to a Florida or Tennessee player then it is a rigged system?

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Maybe you should call Kirby and get him to rescind the offer then, DawgsTard

Offers mean nothing. They wouldn't take it. If he develops then yes, we would take it. But right now he is a middling player and we would not take his commitment. It's not difficult to understand.


Wait....are you saying that Tennessee would take a commitment from any player they offered? Because Tennessee offered Sawyer Deerman last year. A 3* RB ranked at 134 RB in the country with a .83 rating.

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Or how about Nic Strong? A 2* RB rated .79. He had an offer! He must be a stud! 1 Offer. Tennessee. I think I see UT's problem. They are willing to take the 2840th ranked player in the country.
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 3:15 pm
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
5170 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 3:41 pm to
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playing with pedestrian offensive players


Do you think Buford's offensive players are much worse than what most other QBs are dealing with at their high school? Most high schools aren't Chaminade with 3 or 4 studs at WR. Doesn't mean Buford isn't as good of a situation as almost anywhere in the country.

You think Luke Kromenhoek has all of these weapons playing where he plays in Savannah?

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Offers mean nothing. They wouldn't take it. If he develops then yes, we would take it. But right now he is a middling player and we would not take his commitment. It's not difficult to understand.


Wait....are you saying that Tennessee would take a commitment from any player they offered? Because Tennessee offered Sawyer Deerman last year. A 3* RB ranked at 134 RB in the country with a .83 rating.

ETA
Or how about Nic Strong? A 2* RB rated .79. He had an offer! He must be a stud! 1 Offer. Tennessee. I think I see UT's problem. They are willing to take the 2840th ranked player in the country.


You're floundering again. How can you type when your hands are so occupied with grasping at straws, DawgsTard?

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So, your very best argument is that if a Georgia player loses ranking it is justified but if it happens to a Florida or Tennessee player then it is a rigged system?


I made a comment that one particular Georgia player deserves to drop some, yes. I think others probably deserve to go up. Same is true with every school. You think I'm shitting on Georgia with the rankings talk and I'm really just shitting on the sites.


Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60633 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 3:55 pm to
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Do you think Buford's offensive players are much worse than what most other QBs are dealing with at their high school?

Crap dude. I have no idea. But I am not the one that said he played on a Superteam, therefore should be doing well. If that was not your point, then don't make it.

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You're floundering again. How can you type when your hands are so occupied with grasping at straws, DawgsTard?
Wow. So are you agreeing that offers mean next to nothing, or are you saying UT would accept an offer from a 2* that was 2840th player in his class?

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I made a comment that one particular Georgia player deserves to drop some, yes. I think others probably deserve to go up. Same is true with every school. You think I'm shitting on Georgia with the rankings talk and I'm really just shitting on the sites.

No. This entire thread is about Florida and UT players dropping and Georgia players get a bump. All you have to do is read instead of just slapping your hands across your keyboard.




Are you really this obtuse? Read the thread. read what you typed and then save us all a lot of time and drop out of the thread. Just read the OP. It's simple, really.
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