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re: 2019 5-Star DE Zacch Pickens commits to the GAMECOCKS!

Posted on 5/25/18 at 9:08 pm to
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 9:08 pm to
Congrats!! Great get!!



Taters
This post was edited on 5/26/18 at 12:15 am
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 9:14 pm to
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I think the people that knocked South Carolina for hiring Muschamp are being proven wrong. However, it is still a long ways to go in this one, but outstanding get for the Gamecocks.



Should have seen the recruiting classes he had at Florida. His problem has never really been recruiting -- his problem has been, and will continue to be roster management and offense. Bentley's, unfortunately, don't grow on trees where they're already really coached up.

Not saying he'll never improve, but we had monster classes on one side of the ball almost every year of his tenure until his firing.
Posted by ExpoTiger
Member since Jul 2014
6494 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 9:23 pm to
Damn. Nice get cocks
Posted by CarolinaGamecock99
Member since Apr 2015
21870 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 9:29 pm to
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Venebles was at TL Hannah all day trying to get him to push back a committment so Pickens comitts to SC in front of the douchebag.

Posted by TigerPaw1
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Apr 2011
16979 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 9:30 pm to
Huge pickup

Feels like Muschamp starting to move the needle a little on the recruiting trail
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 9:47 pm to
Big time pickup. Congrats!
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15181 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 10:19 pm to
Good get. Happy for you guys and Boom doing work.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
23929 posts
Posted on 5/26/18 at 5:31 am to
And for those that aren't familiar with the geography of South Carolina, this kid lives 20 mins from Clemson. Stole him out from under Dabo's nose.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
69908 posts
Posted on 5/26/18 at 5:56 am to
He's a beast. Great pick up.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73492 posts
Posted on 5/26/18 at 7:50 am to
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Got to think our previous years haul at DE (2 5*) and overall depth chart didn't help.


I love it when OOC posters come here to melt.
Posted by GameCocky88
Mount Pleasant, SC
Member since Dec 2015
4837 posts
Posted on 5/26/18 at 10:02 am to
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Congrats on the get. Good pickup. Got to think our previous years haul at DE (2 5*) and overall depth chart didn't help.


The irony in this post is that Pickens committed at his spring Game. In attendance was not only Clemson defensive coordinator Brent venables, but all of those 1st round defensive lineman that came back. So it's true, your defensive line didn't help in his recruitment.
Posted by CivilTiger83
Member since Dec 2017
2525 posts
Posted on 5/26/18 at 12:06 pm to
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I love it when OOC posters come here to melt.


You have a strange definition of melt.

It's a good pickup. Clemson is loaded more than anyone in the country at DE, so I expect that to hurt us the next two cycles. USC will benefit when it comes to local guys. It's not rocket science.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
23929 posts
Posted on 5/26/18 at 2:04 pm to
Problem is, after this. year you'll only have 3 scholarship DT's.

And this is a down year for DT's.

And Clemson isn't leading for any of the top group.
Posted by CivilTiger83
Member since Dec 2017
2525 posts
Posted on 5/26/18 at 2:53 pm to
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Problem is, after this. year you'll only have 3 scholarship DT's. 

And this is a down year for DT's. 

And Clemson isn't leading for any of the top group.


You're right that we are thin at DT after this year (4 total with recent commitment - will add at least one more), and we don't have any five star guys committed.

Clemson has also had success developing three star guys into NFL players along the DL. As long as Dabo and Venables are there, I am not going to stress over the roster.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37618 posts
Posted on 5/26/18 at 3:55 pm to
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You're right that we are thin at DT after this year (4 total with recent commitment - will add at least one more), and we don't have any five star guys committed.

Clemson has also had success developing three star guys into NFL players along the DL. As long as Dabo and Venables are there, I am not going to stress over the roster.

You seem to be a decent Clemson fan ... unlike your sheep humping sister banging taterhead friends. So, let's have a truly civil discussion.

Your recent defenses up there have been really good. Defense wins championships as we all know.

Dabo and Venables have been good at recruiting and developing defensive guys, I completely agree. We felt the same way for a few years under EJ and Lawing ... but we also had the players at the time, just as you do now.

If history tells us anything it is that it is EXTREMELY difficult to sustain that kind of talent for extended periods ... Nebraska did it for awhile under Osborne, LSU even under both Saban and Les, and FSU under Bowden. But for most programs it is short lived, temporary.

I remember well the Clemson defenses under Ford. Ford always said if he held opponents under 14 pts he would win because his offenses were ball control and you just couldn't score on his defenses back then ... hell, George Rogers never once got into the endzone against Clemson.

What happened? Because there was a good 30 year stretch where Clemson Ds were not that special.

And, there will soon be another. Signs are already showing. Do you disagree with that?
Posted by CivilTiger83
Member since Dec 2017
2525 posts
Posted on 5/26/18 at 4:09 pm to
Clemson's recent run of success has been awesome for this Clemson fan to behold and yes it won't last forever. Little ole Clemson should not be relevant nationally in CFB, and yet here we are... taking names and kicking butt, with a coach that the rest of the country was laughing at when he was first hired.

I have no idea when the ride will end. I am not going to spend time worrying about that. Enjoy the time you are given... Life is too short to live any other way.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 5/26/18 at 5:09 pm to
If WM pulls in a top 5 class at @SCAR it'll be amazing. Wow. Great get. Meanwhile @ UF. ...
Posted by Gamecock4Life
Columbia, SC. GO CAROLINA PANTHERS
Member since Oct 2013
7318 posts
Posted on 5/26/18 at 5:42 pm to
Can’t believe I’m agreeing with a cLemson fan
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37618 posts
Posted on 5/26/18 at 7:18 pm to
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Little ole Clemson should not be relevant nationally in CFB, and yet here we are... taking names and kicking butt, with a coach that the rest of the country was laughing at when he was first hired.


CivilTiger ... Clemson plays in the ACC and your current run is attributable as much to FSU and SC being down right now as it is to anything Dabo and Venables being good coaches.

You've been very lucky all the way around. Easy regular season playing in an easy conference. Your two biggest challengers being down. Lucky bounces in the Championship game two seasons ago.

Right now the worm is already turning.

You flopped in the bowl last season. Were beaten like red-headed step children.

There are questions surrounding your current team, an exodus of players, recruiting is in danger, people are starting to look around and they are hearing all sorts of questionable things from players leaving the program ... the whispers are starting to grow a little louder. Hell, it's almost like 1981 all over again.

Enjoy it while you can CivilTiger, I hear where you are coming from, I really do. In the meantime I suspect both SC and FSU will soon be making things tougher on you. A&M may very well get that ball rolling this year. You'll still breeze through the rest of your ACC schedule, but you'll have a much tougher row to hoe this season than you've had these past few years and you may soon habe second thoughts about your beloved Dabo. Sure, he's a likeable guy with snake oil saleman charm and all that ... but it does appear that his little run will be a short one. I probably would not have made that statement last year honestly - but times are a changin' these days. There is a serious kink in his armor beginning to show.

You may bookmark this is you'd like. Come back in eight months and prove me wrong maybe?
Posted by Glory, Glory
Pawleys Island, SC
Member since Nov 2012
4498 posts
Posted on 5/27/18 at 6:22 am to
I hate Clemson, but in 8 months they’ll be preparing for the playoffs. Now if you’re talking in 2019, the losses on the DLine alone are catastrophic enough to set them back a few years. While Carolina is recruiting pretty good, they’ll need to prove they have someone ready to take over for Bentley. Sorry if I took this thread in the wrong direction
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