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Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:26 am to Smokeyone
Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:26 am to Smokeyone
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Just like Spyre provides services to more than just university of Tennessee Knoxville student athletes.
once again.....this does not matter.
NCAA popped us with a Level 1 violation for a Memphis FCA leader providing transportation for multiple inner-city kids to visit multiple schools. We signed one of those kids. The FCA leader had BASEBALL season tickets. He doesn't even give a shite about football.
You.....and read this word carefully.....CANNOT....provide transportation as a booster to a recruit that unofficially visits a school. It's your own dumbass collective and coaches who just can't seem to understand that enough to tell the kid he can't visit campus on that trip.
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:27 am to Smokeyone
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Did Spyre provide transportation for the kid
To Knoxville. He provided his own transportation to the campus.
So Spyre provided transportation for the recruit on an unofficial campus visit. Thanks.
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It needed to be arranged for by the school to be impermissible
False.
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By your own words this is a nonissue.
You read like shite.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:35 am to pankReb
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once again.....this does not matter.
Actually it’s the crux of the matter.
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You.....and read this word carefully.....CANNOT....provide transportation as a booster to a recruit that unofficially visits a school
Do I need to put this in a different language? Spyre is not a booster. Neither Spyre nor the university of Tennessee provided transportation to the university of Tennessee Knoxville campus.
Spyre is a brokerage that matches up athletes and NIL opportunities including highschool, professional, and college athletes across east TN.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:37 am to Smokeyone
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Spyre is not a booster
You are wrong. You seem to be wrong a lot.
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Traditional boosters are not allowed to recruit players to a university. In May 2022, NIL collectives were added to the booster category.
LINK
This post was edited on 2/6/24 at 10:39 am
Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:38 am to jonnyanony
You should put that into another language for him.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:40 am to pankReb
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So Spyre provided transportation for the recruit on an unofficial campus visit. Thanks.
Have you been it Knoxville? It’s huge. They arranged transportation from California to the Spyre headquarters. It’s 14 miles from Spyre headquarters to campus, generally a 30 minute drive.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:41 am to Smokeyone
Cool. So they provided transportation for 99.992% of the trip’s distance.
This post was edited on 2/6/24 at 10:43 am
Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:49 am to jonnyanony
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jonnyanony
Why do you feel Spyre is a booster? The organization was founded in 2020, has never made a donation to UT, has never recruited a kid to UT,
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Specifically, the guidance defines as a booster any third-party entity that promotes an athletics program, assists with recruiting or assists with providing benefits to recruits, enrolled student-athletes or their family members. The definition could include "collectives" set up to funnel name, image and likeness deals to prospective student-athletes or enrolled student-athletes who might be considering transferring.
Spyre is not the UT collective. Is that the piece y’all are missing? The collective is the Volunteer Club. Spyre is a broker matching athletes with NIL opportunities. Spyre does pay NIL contracts, it brokers them. It matches opportunities like Form Factor that has the limited contractual rights to Nico.
The Volunteer Club is a booster organization. Spyre is not a booster.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:50 am to pankReb
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Cool. So they provided transportation for 99.992% of the trip’s distance.
But not to the campus. He was in town on unrelated matters and arranged his own transportation to the campus.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:55 am to jonnyanony
Spyre est un courtier, le club des bénévoles est le collectif
Spyre — ??????, ???? ?????????? — ?????????
spyre is 'n makelaar, die Vrywilligersklub is die kollektief
Spyre — ??????, ???? ?????????? — ?????????
spyre is 'n makelaar, die Vrywilligersklub is die kollektief
Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:57 am to Smokeyone
Again the Volunteer Club is a booster organization
Spyre is a broker
The University of Tennessee is not affiliated with Spyre and Spyre is not affiliated with the university of Tennessee
Spyre is a broker
The University of Tennessee is not affiliated with Spyre and Spyre is not affiliated with the university of Tennessee
Posted on 2/6/24 at 11:00 am to Smokeyone
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Again the Volunteer Club is a booster organization
Spyre is a broker
100% not how it works or has ever worked. Spyre Sports group - and Spyre - are considered boosters by the NCAA.
That's why UT is getting investigated. You can make up things about:
collectives not being allowed to associate with universities (wrong)
collectives not being boosters (wrong) or
representatives (who are boosters) of collectives (who are boosters) not being boosters,
but you've basically been wrong at every turn.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 11:07 am to jonnyanony
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100% not how it works or has ever worked. Spyre Sports group - and Spyre - are considered boosters by the NCAA.
Prove it. I get that that what you believe and want to believe but we don’t have a letter from the NCAA, we know Spyre is not a booster and does not meet the criteria of a booster.
The Tennessee collective is the Volunteer Club, not Spyre. Spyre does contracts for any athlete they believe is marketable. Spyre has specific language in their contracts expressly stating any deal brokered are not contingent on attendance at any specific school.
Volunteer Club= Booster
Spyre= Broker/agent (as allowed bylaw and guidelines)
Posted on 2/6/24 at 11:12 am to Smokeyone
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Prove it.
I already gave you the NCAA definition of how collectives and reps count as boosters.
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I get that that what you believe
What does this mean? We beat UT every year, I don't give a shite about this, but y'all fricked up and got caught.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 11:28 am to Smokeyone
Notice how every claim-as-fact he's made so far has come with zero proof or evidence and is completely based upon his feelings?
Posted on 2/6/24 at 11:36 am to jonnyanony
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I already gave you the NCAA definition of how collectives and reps count as boosters.
Spyre is neither.
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What does this mean? We beat UT every year, I don't give a shite about this, but y'all fricked up and got caught.
Caught doing what exactly? Spyre does not represent the university of Tennessee Knoxville, nor is it a collective, nor did they fly a student athlete to campus.
and the you was a pejorative term to generalize the vocal minority on here that really want this to be something it simply is not. What this is, is a huge overreach by an NCAA in its death throes. You have state AGs, the Senate, and likely the courts again, lining up to go full Brutus stabbing the ceaser that is the NCAA.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 11:40 am to Smokeyone
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The University of Tennessee is not affiliated with Spyre and Spyre is not affiliated with the university of Tennessee
Listen, when you are trying to show a separation between 2 entities it would help if one of the entities didn't have a link to the other one on the home page of their website.
Homepage - Spyre Sports
Seriously you should give it up....or don't and keep digging.
This post was edited on 2/6/24 at 11:41 am
Posted on 2/6/24 at 11:40 am to Smokeys Howl
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Notice how every claim-as-fact he's made so far has come with zero proof or evidence and is completely based upon his feelings?
I guess I shouldn’t be surprised they believe that Spyre was a collective. I could see it as an honest mistake at first but to die on that hill just seems odd at this point.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 11:52 am to bigDgator
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Listen, when you are trying to show a separation between 2 entities it would help if one of the entities didn't have a link to the other one on the home page of their website.
The Volunteer Club is a completely separate entity. Or is every link on their page affiliated with them?
Another link
Here a link on there site to the NCAA guidance they follow
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The policy provides the following guidance to college athletes, recruits, their families and member schools: Individuals can engage in NIL activities that are consistent with the law of the state where the school is located. Colleges and universities may be a resource for state law questions. College athletes who attend a school in a state without an NIL law can engage in this type of activity without violating NCAA rules related to name, image and likeness. Individuals can use a professional services provider for NIL activities. Student-athletes should report NIL activities consistent with state law or school and conference requirements to their school.
Another post off their website
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At Spyre Sports Group, we’re ready to create NIL opportunities for you. We have over 30 years of marketing experience along with having represented hundreds of professional athletes in various professional sports.
But you know what you don’t find? A direct affiliation with any particular school.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 11:58 am to bigDgator
The volunteer club is the largest collective in the state. Of course they send the causal fan to them. Did you see the list of partners? The Volunteer Club isn’t on it. And if you look at the list partners on the Volunteer Club? Spyre isn’t on it.
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