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Posted on 2/5/24 at 8:56 pm to Loganville Vols
Posted on 2/5/24 at 8:56 pm to Loganville Vols
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So you think there’s no Georgia boosters in Georgia’s NIL?
If there are, I hope they are smart enough to keep their mouths shut, and not pay for recruits transportation on unofficial visits. Leave those things to the Vols.
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 6:00 am to captdalton
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You realize there are different rules for donating to a university versus donating directly to student athletes or recruits don’t you? It seems like you don’t.
By definition Nike is an Oregon booster correct? I mean Knight put his sons name on the basketball arena, they are the owners of the university NIL for the Oregon duck merch, Knight is able to dictate coaching hires/fires to the university, etc. (I linked all that earlier. But since they support more than just Oregon it’s ok Asperger’s DJ). And yet Spyre as an organization has nonexistent power in the university of Tennessee Knoxville, also is not exclusive to the university of Tennessee Knoxville they, are a problem but Nike isn’t.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 6:06 am to gypsy2091
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For ending arbitrary interference and by playing favorites and inventing rules.It could be your program next. Think about it. Probably why Nicky tucked tail and finally ran. Exposed!
No one cares about you or that you want to get away with cheating.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 7:13 am to Smokeyone
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By definition Nike is an Oregon booster correct?
Unless you can point to recruiting violations against NIKE, such as Phil knight flying a 5 star into town to sign a $8 million contract beforea visit with Dan lanning, This is way too far of a reach for even you to continue on with it. Pure desperation out of fear. Which message board got you hooked on that one?
Posted on 2/6/24 at 7:15 am to koreandawg
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No one cares about you or that you want to get away with cheating.
Well that clinched it. The highly respected bastion of rational thought has spoken
What an arrogant dog eating example of unjustified overestimating self worth.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 7:25 am to djsdawg
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Unless you can point to recruiting violations against NIKE, such as Phil knight flying a 5 star into town to sign a $8 million contract beforea visit with Dan lanning
So reality doesn’t matter just your perception of reality. Read the book Nike university. It’s an interesting expose. Did you know Phil Knight almost got Oregon taken out of the Oregon university system? Doubtful, unless stuff is spoonfed to you on a UGA board it’s beyond your limited knowledge base.
But as for Nike and recruiting scandals involving pay for play, they were in the 2019 basketball scandal that caught multiple schools were both Nike and Adidas were buying players. Since it wasn’t football I’m sure UGA fans are unaware. But again do a little research and broaden your knowledge base. You know actual pay for play stuff, not this board’s overactive imagination running wild.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 7:35 am to Smokeyone
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So reality doesn’t matter just your perception of reality
You clearly don’t have any Nike NIL violations to discuss. Just more of your desperate obfuscation. Anything to avoid the possibility of major violations by your loud mouth NIL collective.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:03 am to djsdawg
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You clearly don’t have any Nike NIL violations to discuss.
Did you not pay attention to the 2019 multi year investigation and sanctions handed out over shoe companies including NIKE and Adidas using AAU to funnel kids to programs? This is the 3rd time I’ve mentioned this.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:35 am to Smokeyone
You have to do more than merely mention it to make a good point. NIL didn’t even exist back in those old days, but tell us more about what Nike did as a booster to oregon basketball. Give us the details only the most brilliant vol poster would know of.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:01 am to djsdawg
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NIL didn’t even exist back in those old day
What do you think shoe deals are? Do you understand that NIL deals did not just spawn into the world 3 years ago? Holy shite. Do you remember the Jeremy Bloom issues with a sunglasses endorsement (NIL) over 20 years ago? This is why I hate attempting to discuss stuff with you, you are too simple and too limited in general knowledge. The Bloom case was an original driver in getting NIL in the open.
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tell us more about what Nike did as a booster to oregon basketball
Nike funded, and had the current Oregon basketball facility named after the cofounders son. I would believe that meets the criteria to be a booster by any standard.
I’ve already listed a have dozen examples of Nike and Oregon and cited the 2019 AAU basketball shoe company scandal.
So if by your standards NIKE and Oregon doesn’t violate any NCAA regulations, because it is not solely benefiting Oregon then by extension via your standards Spyre is not an issue because they are not solely providing services to university of Tennessee Knoxville student athletes.
A+B=C Nike qualifies as a University of Oregon booster, but because they provide services beyond the university of Oregon it’s not an issue.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:36 am to Smokeyone
Smokey, you're either confused or trying to be confusing. Not sure which.
Nike is a booster for several schools by NCAA definition.
They aren't breaking recruiting rules placed on boosters though.
The issue isn't that UT's collective is a booster. It's that as a booster they seem to have broken rules placed on boosters. It's fine for them to be a booster, just like it's fine if an individual is one. You just have a list of restrictions around recruiting placed on you if you are one.
Also, Nike's influence is at a level that even if they were to break recruiting rules the NCAA would realistically never come down on them... because they funnel millions if not billions into college football. They're effectively "too big to fail" or rather, "too big to earn sanctions".
UT's collectives don't have that going for them.
Nike is a booster for several schools by NCAA definition.
They aren't breaking recruiting rules placed on boosters though.
The issue isn't that UT's collective is a booster. It's that as a booster they seem to have broken rules placed on boosters. It's fine for them to be a booster, just like it's fine if an individual is one. You just have a list of restrictions around recruiting placed on you if you are one.
Also, Nike's influence is at a level that even if they were to break recruiting rules the NCAA would realistically never come down on them... because they funnel millions if not billions into college football. They're effectively "too big to fail" or rather, "too big to earn sanctions".
UT's collectives don't have that going for them.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:40 am to Smokeyone
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Nike donates millions to Oregon, designs every aspect of their athletic department, funds their athletic department, runs camps that funnel kids to Oregon, there are buildings on Oregon’s campus named for Nike.
Did those buildings provide transportation for kids to visit campus?
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:44 am to Smokeyone
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By definition Nike is an Oregon booster correct?
No. By definition, they are not a booster. They do not "give" or "donate" money to Oregon. They are a contracted company.
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(I linked all that earlier
Did you link where Nike provides transportation for kids to visit campus?
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And yet Spyre as an organization has nonexistent power in the university of Tennessee Knoxville, also is not exclusive to the university of Tennessee Knoxville they, are a problem but Nike isn’t.
Let's see if you can figure out the problem here.
Spyre provided transportation for kids to visit the University that they are boosters of. Nike, has not.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:44 am to pankReb
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Did those buildings provide transportation for kids to visit campus?
Provides a flight to discuss a business opportunity in Knoxville vs NIKE having to coaches fired, and attempting to pull the university of Oregon out of the state system. Ok
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:47 am to Smokeyone
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A+B=C Nike qualifies as a University of Oregon booster
You can't make up your own math and pass it off as fact. They're a contracted company.
You're trying to compare two things that you cannot compare.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:48 am to Smokeyone
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NIKE having to coaches fired, and attempting to pull the university of Oregon out of the state system
You keep bringing up completely irrelevant shite. None of that has to do with a booster providing impermissible benefits. It isn't even in the same universe.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:09 am to pankReb
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No. By definition, they are not a booster. They do not "give" or "donate" money to Oregon.
In 2005, Knight allegedly attempted to strong-arm the university's then president, Dave Frohnmayer, into firing both the athletic director and track and field coach. According to reports, Knight threatened to withhold funds towards the construction of a new basketball arena. By 2007 both were gone.
As of 2023, Knight has contributed in excess of $1 billion towards the University of Oregon. Knight has contributed significant personal funds towards building and maintaining the university's athletic apparatus. Knight has donated completed buildings to the university's athletic program.
So a billion and gets staff fired.
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Did you link where Nike provides transportation for kids to visit campus?
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LINK
A bit bigger than transportation. How are y’all ignorant of this stuff?
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Spyre provided transportation for kids to visit the University that they are boosters of. Nike, has not.
Factually incorrect and misleading. Spyre provided transportation to Knoxville, not the university of Tennessee. Spyre has its headquarters in Knoxville, and Knoxville has over 750,000 people in it. It’s not a tiny podunk college town. The metro area includes Knox Blount and Sevier counties is home to over a million people and includes 3 huge tourist destinations in Pigeon Forge (11million visitors annually) Gatlinburg (14million visitors annually) and the Smokey Mountains (10million visitors annually).
Spyre is not the university of Tennessee and the university of Tennessee is not Spyre.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:15 am to Smokeyone
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Factually incorrect and misleading. Spyre provided transportation to Knoxville, not the university of Tennessee. Spyre has its headquarters in Knoxville, and Knoxville has over 750,000 people in it. It’s not a tiny podunk college town. The metro area includes Knox Blount and Sevier counties is home to over a million people and includes 3 huge tourist destinations in Pigeon Forge (11million visitors annually) Gatlinburg (14million visitors annually) and the Smokey Mountains (10million visitors annually).
Did Spyre provide transportation for the kid. Did the kid visit campus. You're acting as if the plane needed to land on the 50 yard line for it to be impermissible.
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Spyre is not the university of Tennessee and the university of Tennessee is not Spyre.
No shite, idiot. No one is claiming that the University flew the kid in.
This post was edited on 2/6/24 at 10:16 am
Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:21 am to pankReb
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You keep bringing up completely irrelevant shite. None of that has to do with a booster providing impermissible benefits. It isn't even in the same universe.
Nike provides impermissible benefits:
Gary Franklin, who founded and coached the AAU team California Supreme, testified Friday that Nike employees ordered him to pay tens of thousands of dollars to the parents and handlers of three prized recruits.
Per Mark Schlabach of ESPN, Franklin also said those Nike employees told him to "submit fraudulent invoices to the company for reimbursement."
The players in question are Phoenix Suns center DeAndre Ayton, Denver Nuggets big man Bol Bol and ex-UNLV star Brandon McCoy, who is now with the G League's Wisconsin Herd.
Franklin said the payments occurred in June 2016, when all three were in high school.
Again a bit more than a flight to discuss a business opportunity.
Now add in that Nike through Knight has donated a billion dollars to the university of Oregon, is allowed to dictate to the school about coaches, and staff, was involved in a illegal NIL deals to funnel kids in a straight pay for play scheme that was in the news up until 2 years ago and yet y’all act like this is the 1st time y’all have heard about this.
But it’s ok because Nike provides services to multiple schools and non schools. Just like Spyre provides services to more than just university of Tennessee Knoxville student athletes.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:24 am to pankReb
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Did Spyre provide transportation for the kid
To Knoxville. He provided his own transportation to the campus.
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You're acting as if the plane needed to land on the 50 yard line for it to be impermissible.
It needed to be arranged for by the school to be impermissible. Obviously it was not.
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No shite, idiot. No one is claiming that the University flew the kid in.
By your own words this is a nonissue.
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