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re: Would Charlie Strong make Arkansas a contender in two years?
Posted on 9/20/12 at 3:03 pm to roadGator
Posted on 9/20/12 at 3:03 pm to roadGator
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In the end, the home part may end up being a draw for him. Arky is just not what I understand to be his next stop.
However, the money will be huge and he will end up listening based on that alone. All is not lost with him IMO.
Yeah its now or never for us to land him. If he takes Louisville to a BCS game this season he is going to be the hottest name in the coaching carousel and I know Tennessee, Auburn, South Carolina and Florida will all be keeping an eye on him.
Posted on 9/20/12 at 3:04 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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realistically who do you think you're going to get that's better?
I don't know. Neither does anyone else, but there are quite a few coaches out there who would be a better hire than Charlie Strong at this time. I'm just not really that confident that Jeff Long can figure it out on his own. I like Holgorsen, if he were to hire a really good DC. Just my opinion.
Posted on 9/20/12 at 3:06 pm to roadGator
Is Charlie Strong even the best black HC in the state of Kentucky right now? I'm really impressed with the job Willie Taggart's done at Western Kentucky. WKU actually played Alabama really tough a few weeks ago and they put up a respectable effort against LSU last year. It's remarkable how much he's improved Western Kentucky in such a short time.
Posted on 9/20/12 at 3:06 pm to DaleDenton
Can you slow down and try to work with me here. No job in the SEC is easy. Some jobs are more difficult than others. Arkies is a very difficult job in the SEC as evidenced by the lack of championships.
He is far from lazy. Lazy coaches don't get hired at bigtime programs.
Move Arky into TX like Cheshire said and you guys would have a much easier time getting top tier talent to get the big prize. Surely you see the talent gaps especially on the OL and the D???
He is far from lazy. Lazy coaches don't get hired at bigtime programs.
Move Arky into TX like Cheshire said and you guys would have a much easier time getting top tier talent to get the big prize. Surely you see the talent gaps especially on the OL and the D???
Posted on 9/20/12 at 3:08 pm to roadGator
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Can you slow down and try to work with me here. No job in the SEC is easy. Some jobs are more difficult than others. Arkies is a very difficult job in the SEC as evidenced by the lack of championships.
He is far from lazy. Lazy coaches don't get hired at bigtime programs.
Move Arky into TX like Cheshire said and you guys would have a much easier time getting top tier talent to get the big prize. Surely you see the talent gaps especially on the OL and the D???
Follow along with me, If he doesn't think he can come in and be very successful, I do not want him.
And if lazy coaches do not get hired at bigtime programs, how do you explain Mack Brown, Houston Nutt, Mike Sherman, etc?
Posted on 9/20/12 at 3:09 pm to DaleDenton
what big time program was Houston Nutt ever the coach of?
Posted on 9/20/12 at 3:10 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Notice Curly Hallman wasn't mentioned.
There is a reason for that.
There is a reason for that.
Posted on 9/20/12 at 3:12 pm to DaleDenton
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If he doesn't think he can come in and be very successful, I do not want him.
Sounds great. I think the feeling is mutual for now.
Posted on 9/20/12 at 3:12 pm to Bench McElroy
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Is Charlie Strong even the best black HC in the state of Kentucky right now? I'm really impressed with the job Willie Taggart's done at Western Kentucky. WKU actually played Alabama really tough a few weeks ago and they put up a respectable effort against LSU last year. It's remarkable how much he's improved Western Kentucky in such a short time.
I'm impressed with him as well, and his resume should look even better after this season.
I'd probably still take Strong, though.
This post was edited on 9/20/12 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 9/20/12 at 3:13 pm to roadGator
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Arkies is a very difficult job in the SEC as evidenced by the lack of championships.
It's really a great job for the right coach. Petrino knew this. He just screwed himself.
Before then, Frank Broyles was our AD. He was great at a lot of things but working under him as a football coach was a sumbich, unless your name was Houston Nutt.
This post was edited on 9/20/12 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 9/20/12 at 3:14 pm to Porky
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It's really a great job for the right coach. Petrino knew this.
2nd best coach you've ever had and he didn't win diddly.
Posted on 9/20/12 at 3:15 pm to Porky
Arky is a fine job for some coaches. Not all.
You guys are biased of course but not everyone wants to coach there with the challenges you face.
Petrino was going to face them to with a struggling D and OL. I don't think he would have lost the first game though.
You guys are biased of course but not everyone wants to coach there with the challenges you face.
Petrino was going to face them to with a struggling D and OL. I don't think he would have lost the first game though.
Posted on 9/20/12 at 3:16 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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2nd best coach you've ever had and he didn't win diddly.
That's some weak shite DS and you know it.


Posted on 9/20/12 at 3:19 pm to Porky
Y'all think your job is a lot better than it actually is
Posted on 9/20/12 at 3:20 pm to roadGator
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Arky is a fine job for some coaches. Not all.
You guys are biased of course but not everyone wants to coach there with the challenges you face.
Petrino was going to face them to with a struggling D and OL. I don't think he would have lost the first game though.
How is the job different than Tennessee, except the coach isn't being ran off after 3-4 years for "under performing".
Posted on 9/20/12 at 3:21 pm to roadGator
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Arky is a fine job for some coaches. Not all.
True.
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You guys are biased of course but not everyone wants to coach there with the challenges you face.
True.
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Petrino was going to face them to with a struggling D and OL. I don't think he would have lost the first game though.
Petrino would have more than likely have had a bit of a down year in '12, probably a lot like '09.
This post was edited on 9/20/12 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 9/20/12 at 3:21 pm to roadGator
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Arky is a fine job for some coaches. Not all.
You guys are biased of course but not everyone wants to coach there with the challenges you face.
This is what I've been arguing about with our fans on another board recently. They believe since Long has been saying that he is willing to make our hire the highest paid coach in the country that we can just throw money at whatever coach that we want and he will come here.
I've been trying to explain that as well all know most elite coaches are driven by their ego and while everyone wants to be the best not everyone wants to risk tarnishing their reputation by stepping in to the Thunderdome that is the SEC West.
I think the recent hires by Tennessee and Florida are perfect examples of this. Neither one of them hired a coach on the caliber of the names that are being thrown out for our job.
That doesn't mean I don't think we will hire a great coach but I think we are going to hire someone more along the lines of Charlie Strong, Butch Jones or Gary Andersen than Dana Holgorsen or Mike Dantonio.
This post was edited on 9/20/12 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 9/20/12 at 3:24 pm to DaleDenton
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How is the job different than Tennessee, except the coach isn't being ran off after 3-4 years for "under performing".
Arky and UT have to recruit in a similar fashion.
UT has had way more success in the past. Coaches can see that it's possible to win National Championships by just walking around the trophy room.
Not a dig at Arky just answering your question.
Posted on 9/20/12 at 3:27 pm to TheCheshireHog
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I think the recent hires by Tennessee and Florida are perfect examples of this. Neither one of them hired a coach on the caliber of the names that are being thrown out for our job.
Well, Urban screwed us up royally when he didn't leave the first time. Stoops was "supposedly" set to come back to UF.
Foley wanted Boom and got him. Besides, I didn't like many of the other names being thrown about either. However, I don't think many of those had a desire to leave their current programs.
Also, Foley, likes to be right and I think he thinks he's right with Boom. He looks like a magician in the end if Boom does well. He loves that shite.

UT was left in the lurch and I'm not sure they had time to do a proper hire.
At least you guys have a year to sort this out.
Posted on 9/20/12 at 3:29 pm to roadGator
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Arky and UT have to recruit in a similar fashion.
UT has had way more success in the past. Coaches can see that it's possible to win National Championships by just walking around the trophy room.
Not a dig at Arky just answering your question.
Its still the past, we have a trophy room as well.
We have resources, a commitment is being made to actually fully utilize these resources for football.
But the explanation of "it just is" is always great.

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