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Posted on 8/1/13 at 9:48 am to Choctaw
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like what?
Well, the most obvious is that neither one is very good at coaching their side of the ball. I know that you couldn't have been happy with the game plan against Alabama in the NC.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 9:48 am to Yintros
quote:Please tell me this is a fricking joke.
I've actually always considered Les to be very similar to Chizik
Posted on 8/1/13 at 9:50 am to Yintros
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Well, the most obvious is that neither one is very good at coaching their side of the ball. I know that you couldn't have been happy with the game plan against Alabama in the NC.
so that's all you got?
btw....Miles has 3 of the top 5 offenses in LSU history.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 9:51 am to Yintros
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Worst coaches to ever win a NC
This statement is sort of oxymoronic.. "Worst" has very negative connotation, and I don't think "worst" should be designated to examine NC winning coaches. Do I think Miles was extremely lucky in his NC run? Yep.. But so are most coaches. Nick Saban was extremely lucky that they allowed something unprecedented to happen to give him a shot a the title in '11. And on the other side, Miles would have beaten any other team that night (Stanford, Ok St.) and he would have 2 NC's. So him being in the "worst" category? lol no.
And the LSU fans are surprisingly calm up in here. I think the constant flaming and antagonizing on here has run off the thin skinned, immature of our fanbase, for the most part.
This post was edited on 8/1/13 at 9:53 am
Posted on 8/1/13 at 9:59 am to Choctaw
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so that's all you got?
btw....Miles has 3 of the top 5 offenses in LSU history.
Don't even feed the troll.
Les Miles is leaps and bounds better than Chizik, its really not even a discussion worth having.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 10:01 am to Charter n Coke
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This statement is sort of oxymoronic.. "Worst" has very negative connotation, and I don't think "worst" should be designated to examine NC winning coaches.
No matter if we're talking about the top 10 brain surgeons in the world. The 10th on that list is still the worst of the top 10.
Worst doesn't imply that they are bad coaches, just worse relative to the other options.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 10:05 am to TexasTiger1185
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No matter if we're talking about the top 10 brain surgeons in the world. The 10th on that list is still the worst of the top 10. Worst doesn't imply that they are bad coaches, just worse relative to the other options
I understand this
Posted on 8/1/13 at 10:06 am to Yintros
Fu
Posted on 8/1/13 at 10:07 am to Choctaw
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Miles has 3 of the top 5 offenses in LSU history.
:crickets:
Posted on 8/1/13 at 10:07 am to Yintros
You're missing the guy that was coaching Colorado in 90 when they got their fifth down. 
Posted on 8/1/13 at 10:08 am to Choctaw
quote:Speaks volumes about LSU's offensive history.
Miles has 3 of the top 5 offenses in LSU history.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 10:10 am to Yintros
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1. Gene Chizik
Just a bad coach in general. Couldn't produce a decent defense.
2. Larry Coker
Average coach who inherited a stacked team.
3. Mack Brown
Coach with the easiest recruiting job in the nation who would have Texas in the top 5 regularly if he were decent.
Everything was going so well until...
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4. Les Miles
Similar to Mack Brown in that he regularly under-utilizes his talent. Runs one of the most ugly and unsophisticated offenses ever witnessed. Can barely speak modern English. However the gods have blessed him with a unique characteristic: luck.
No. People have failed @ LSU in the past and it will happen again someday. LSU isn't some magic program where you can just plug in an asshat coach and win SEC championships.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 10:10 am to Yintros
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Can barely speak modern English. However the gods have blessed him with a unique characteristic: luck.
you obviously don't know shite about les miles. you are entitled to you opinion of course. miles "spoof" the sports media a lot and just has a quirky form of coach speak. so some coaches sound like a ceo when they speak buy they too never say anything of value. he is a highly intelligent man. as far as your comments about luck, they are preposterous. luck is 50/50 with good luck only reaching half. yes, you remember WHAT YOU CALL LUCK and forget or did not see his bad luck. having the courage to take calculated risks is not luck. it is necessary to achieve long term success. drawing to an inside straight, now thats luck; going for it on fourth down and making it is not luck.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 10:11 am to WDE24
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Speaks volumes about LSU's offensive history.
wins > stats
Posted on 8/1/13 at 10:11 am to Yintros
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he got complacent. certainly not a bad coach by any stretch of the imagination.
Even a complacent coach should be able to produce 10+ win seasons at Texas with consistency.
Mack actually has done this up until the last couple of years and his 3 predecessors did not. The myth of Texas is astounding, almost all of their accomplishments occurred under DKR (who often had twice the scholarship players of his competition) or Mack. Fred Akers had a few good years but overall was mediocre. David McWilliams was horrible. John Mackovic wasn't much better.
Texas does have a ton of money and some built in advantages but it also has an incredibly fair weather fan base and an entitlement mentality. Mack is a great recruiter and really knew how to build a brand, though he has always been a CEO coach.
Hard to rate Stoops very low on this list, the guy has won the Big 12 so regularly it became an afterthought. He just sucked in BCS Bowls after that first one.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 10:11 am to WDE24
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Speaks volumes about LSU's offensive history
Yeah and we still have a 6 game lead on the series. Geaux figure
Posted on 8/1/13 at 10:13 am to LSU GrandDad
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going for it on fourth down and making it is not luck.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 10:14 am to LsuTool
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Miles has 3 of the top 5 offenses in LSU history.
:crickets:
Uh... I'm not sure what that is supposed to prove. I don't have access to such statistics. However, I would bet that most of that came from the Jimbo/Russel years.
Besides that, using that information as support against my claims is rather meaningless without proper context. LSU does not have a history of excellence on offense. It's akin to the argument that Auburn fans presented when defending Brandon Cox. Someone would claim he is terrible, and the retortee would claim, "He's one of the top 7 QBs in AU history!" Considering that AU had only had 2-3 great QBs in their history at the time, it was not indicative of greatness.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 10:21 am to Yintros
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I don't have access to such statistics.
Well perhaps you should do some research before making yourself look stupid
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However, I would bet that most of that came from the Jimbo/Russel years.
so?
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Besides that, using that information as support against my claims is rather meaningless without proper context. LSU does not have a history of excellence on offense. It's akin to the argument that Auburn fans presented when defending Brandon Cox. Someone would claim he is terrible, and the retortee would claim, "He's one of the top 7 QBs in AU history!" Considering that AU had only had 2-3 great QBs in their history at the time, it was not indicative of greatness.
don't care...you still haven't given any credible reason to compare Miles to Chizik except for "his offenses haven't been that good the last few years...derrrrrr"
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