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re: Will The National Champion feel watered down now?

Posted on 7/21/24 at 11:58 am to
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69470 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 11:58 am to
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Well....you'll see more mysterious injuries, then. It'll happen. You can count on that.


Hopefully the universities will be smart enough to have impartial trainers/doctors employed by the various conferences in attendance to make sure nothing like that can happen. We need safeguards in place to keep the players in line so the fans can get what they want from them.
Posted by RandySavage
9 Time Natty Winner
Member since May 2012
34741 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 11:58 am to
You start terrible threads all over the board but you are correct here. Everything good about college football is gone.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
21707 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 11:59 am to
The AQs are the problem.

I think most would be excited about a CFB playoff of 12+.

But, the Group of whatever don't deserve shite.

Bring back the BCS formula and put the top 12 or how many ever it eventually moves to in.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
21707 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 12:03 pm to
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Let me translate the OP for y'all.


I'll help you out. He's either a shitty Bama fan persona created out of boredom or another fanbase trolling alt.

Either way, he generally sucks.
Posted by Victor R Franko
Member since Dec 2021
2088 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 12:03 pm to
Are you stupid or something?

A team that plays 16 or 17 games, the last 3 or 4 not against stiffs, and is the last team standing.....They're the Champions, PERIOD. All the other teams had their chance and lost.
Posted by BigScoreboard
Member since May 2021
1771 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 12:05 pm to
Look at it this way. If the champion was just voted on as was done until 1998, would that be more or less watered down? A 12 team playoff is much less watered down than a 4 or 2 or 0 team playoff, 16 or 32 would be even better. As in all other sports, the objective is to crown the best team at the end of the season as the Champion.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
38814 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 12:06 pm to
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Bama had a nice run under Saban, but now he is gone.
Bama isn't going to win another title for a long time.


Well, this is marked in the book
Posted by UTATX
ATX
Member since May 2024
871 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 12:07 pm to
They will be a lot more legitimate than most of Alabamas claimed titles.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61350 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 12:10 pm to
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Hopefully the universities will be smart enough to have impartial trainers/doctors employed by the various conferences in attendance to make sure nothing like that can happen. We need safeguards in place to keep the players in line so the fans can get what they want from them.


I get that, but there are always ways to get around them. Even trainers and doctors depend on an athlete to tell them how bad their pain is...and everybody has a different pain tolerance. The first time a doctor/trainer tells a kid he has to play and the kid goes down with a career ending injury there will be lawsuits. Imagine being projected a 1st round pick and going down with a career ending injury...or even an ACL like Metchie or Williams with Alabama did. Their draft stock drops from 1st round to 3rd or 4th round and they will want compensation.
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
13653 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 12:11 pm to
Jamal is bama's version of nicholastiger.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61350 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

The AQs are the problem.

I think most would be excited about a CFB playoff of 12+.

But, the Group of whatever don't deserve shite.

Bring back the BCS formula and put the top 12 or how many ever it eventually moves to in.



I mean, I agree with you, but I liked 4 teams. If they had to expand I could have lived with 6. But 12 is too many. We have too many blowouts with a 4 team playoff. Imagine what we will have with 12?
Yes, we will have some intriguing match ups in name only. But when the blowouts pile up people will tire of 12 fairly quickly. (My opinion)
Posted by themetalreb
Mississippi
Member since Sep 2018
6713 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 12:17 pm to
Watered down? It’s gonna be the opposite you moron…
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
21707 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 12:18 pm to
You're not wrong. And, like injuries in an OOC, needless FCS opponent game, it will impact the result of future games.

Could have capped things at 6 or 8.

Bcs was generally always right for a good game. It's just a dumb setup now.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61350 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 12:18 pm to
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A 12 team playoff is much less watered down than a 4 or 2 or 0 team playoff, 16 or 32 would be even better. As in all other sports, the objective is to crown the best team at the end of the season as the Champion.


No offense, but i don't think many on here are understanding what he means by "watered down". We have a ton of blow outs right now. They will only increase if you add teams. If the objective of crowing the best team as champion is the aim (And i agree that should be the aim) then adding weaker teams with a possibility of upsetting stronger teams is not the way to get it. Go through the history of the playoff system and see how many 2+ TD games there have been. Even 3+ TD and 4+TD games. Adding weaker teams to the mix will only increase those.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69470 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 12:19 pm to
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They will be a lot more legitimate than most of Alabamas claimed titles.



This will be true for just about every team that claim national titles from before 1992. We can't help it that we were just in the right place at the right time more times than any other team.

Also...you might want to do some research on your 1970 national championship claim before you start attacking ours. Losing by two touchdowns in your bowl game against #6 Notre Dame after claiming the UPI national championship while Nebraska finished unbeaten and #1 in the AP poll doesn't give you a lot of room to speak on this subject.
This post was edited on 7/21/24 at 12:26 pm
Posted by UTATX
ATX
Member since May 2024
871 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 12:28 pm to
I honestly feel any championship before top two teams played is crap. In the future, I surmise most will disregard many of the championships that didn’t include a playoff.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61350 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 12:39 pm to
quote:

You're not wrong. And, like injuries in an OOC, needless FCS opponent game, it will impact the result of future games.

Could have capped things at 6 or 8.

Bcs was generally always right for a good game. It's just a dumb setup now.



This is what I wish this board was more like. Good, solid, interesting topics with an occasional troll to spice things up....but the trolls have taken over the board and we MIGHT get good conversation....sometimes.
Posted by CelticTiger
Saint Louis
Member since Feb 2019
1531 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 12:39 pm to
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We need safeguards in place to keep the players in line so the fans can get what they want from them.


Perhaps structure their “contracts” to pay per game on a sliding scale. OOC games don’t pay much, but conference championship games might be 10x of an easy OOC game.
Posted by GiveHimSix
God's country AKA Knoxville
Member since Jul 2024
835 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 12:41 pm to
Exactly this. Gumps are HAS BEENS and know it. What a ridiculous thread
Posted by BigScoreboard
Member since May 2021
1771 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 12:48 pm to
To me, "watered down" means that the championship means less. And to me, the more subjective it is, the less meaning it has. Playing the games gives it meaning. Granted, more games mean more blowouts. But more games also mean the right teams are advancing on the field instead of on coaches' and sportswriters' computers. I'd like to see a 16 or 32 team playoff like the Division I-AA Championship Series.
This post was edited on 7/21/24 at 12:49 pm
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