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re: Will SEC defensive coordinators figure out how to stop AU's offense this year?

Posted on 6/2/14 at 12:53 pm to
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 12:53 pm to
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I'll pass.


typical, you post false information and then refuse to fix it or admit. Its your typical post on here, besides the usual response thread
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 12:54 pm to
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Recognizing you're an alter is creepy?

Whatever you say, Doc.


I thought it was pretty much known he was an alter
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 12:55 pm to
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typical, you post false information and then refuse to fix it or admit. Its your typical post on here, besides the usual response thread


I'd be happy to fix it and admit my faults if you point it out, but I'm not going to take the time to go back a scrutinize every detail of one my posts like you will.
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 12:56 pm to
I haven't been on much, so who is what is completely oblivious to me.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 12:57 pm to
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I'd be happy to fix it and admit my faults if you point it out, but I'm not going to take the time to go back a scrutinize every detail of one my posts like you will.



Well if you actually read the post you responded to with that, maybe you would have used the correct info, I believe it was also pointed out when you incorrectly posted it before as well. Like I said, typical for you
Posted by BamaDoc14
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 12:57 pm to
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I haven't been on much, so who is what is completely oblivious to me


Just to fill you in, NYCAuburn is basically on my leash, following my posts wherever they go.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 12:58 pm to
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Just to fill you in, NYCAuburn is basically on my leash, following my posts wherever they go.



Sorry for having a memory. And its pretty easy, just look for an Auburn thread and there you are.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 1:07 pm to
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I'd be happy to fix it and admit my faults if you point it out, but I'm not going to take the time to go back a scrutinize every detail of one my posts like you will.


Well you only posted one stat so it should not be hard to find.
Posted by joeyb147
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 1:09 pm to
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I'd be happy to fix it and admit my faults if you point it out


Okay. Just for the start, Auburn came into the 2013 IB averaging 36.5 ppg on offense. And Alabama came into the game averaging 9.3 ppg.

I know how you got the 39.5 as you included 3 special teams scores and 1 defensive score. How you got 15.1 ppg for Alabama, I'll never figure out.

But we all know you won't fix anything.
This post was edited on 6/2/14 at 1:10 pm
Posted by BamaDoc14
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 1:18 pm to
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How you got 15.1 ppg for Alabama


LINK

15.1 ppg for the Alabama defense from this link.

And while you are correct, it doesn't make much sense to me to not include the bowl games after the two played, which is why I included the entire season and not just games up until that point. Including the bowl games actually hurts Alabama because of how poorly they played in the OU game.

I will also admit that I was too lazy to go through game by game and find which scores were from defensive and special touchdowns, because while they matter in a one game scenario, over the course of a season their effects on total averages are mitigated somewhat as shown by the mere 3 ppg of the one you calculated.

Thanks for pointing all that out. Good stuff.
This post was edited on 6/2/14 at 1:21 pm
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 1:22 pm to
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LINK

15.1 ppg for the Alabama defense from this link.


NOTE: The stats on this page include data ONLY from games involving two FBS schools.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 1:24 pm to
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And while you are correct, it doesn't make much sense to me to not include the bowl games after the two played, which is why I included the entire season and not just games up until that point. Including the bowl games actually hurts Alabama because of how poorly they played in the OU game.


Does it make sense to include another game in that average as well? Ill let you find the flaw

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I will also admit that I was too lazy to go through game by game and find which scores were from defensive and special touchdowns, because while they matter in a one game scenario, over the course of a season their effects on total averages are mitigated somewhat as shown by the mere 3 ppg of the one you calculated.


Yet you have no problem chastising people for why you didnt include them in the Auburn score
Posted by BamaDoc14
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 1:26 pm to
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NOTE: The stats on this page include data ONLY from games involving two FBS schools.


I fail to see how this is bad.

Auburn scores a shite ton against FCS schools, Alabama doesn't allow many points to them. It would just increase the extremes both ways.
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 1:26 pm to
Let the big boys talk here.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 1:29 pm to
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I fail to see how this is bad.


You are using a website that does not include full stats.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 1:33 pm to
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Let the big boys talk here.


I am. But if you would like to continue your typical behavior/posting go ahead.

Again, status quo for yourself
This post was edited on 6/2/14 at 1:35 pm
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 1:34 pm to
This thread is full of love.
Posted by ChexMix
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 1:37 pm to
1. Cam Newton
2. 0/4 FG's, Miracle Return
3. 4th down stop
4. Game tying touchdown with 36 seconds left
5. 300 rushing yards with 2 100 yard rushers
6. 34 points scored
7. Red zone defense
8. Being shut out in two quarters
9. Being dominated in the second half
10. Being out coached

Posted by joeyb147
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 1:46 pm to
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from this link.
You shouldn't use that link as it excludes any D2 games. While those can sometimes be considered outliers, they still make up 8.3% of the regular season.

If this is the link you used for Alabama's scoring defense, where the hell did you get 39.5 for Auburn's scoring offense? That link shows 38.3 ppg, not 39.5 as you claimed which includes the 62 vs WCU.

Wait, you included Auburn's game against Western Carolina in your 2013 Auburn offensive average, but excluded Alabama's game against Chattanooga to shift the numbers in favor of Saban?

You also include the kick six in Auburn's total numbers on the year, but exclude it in the Saban vs Malzahn argument? You don't see the problems you are just ignoring when doing this?
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Including the bowl games actually hurts Alabama because of how poorly they played in the OU game.
Umm, technically it helps in the Saban vs Malzahn argument as Saban's ppg rose creating a smaller change vs what Malzahn scored on him.




What else did you purposely change in parameters to make the numbers more skewed in Saban's favor?



This post was edited on 6/2/14 at 1:54 pm
Posted by TheSandman
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 2:36 pm to
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2. 0/4 FG's, Miracle Return

1. How many third/fourth down stops did we make to put you into position to attempt (or not attempt) those field goals?

2. How many times did the collective backfield of Nick Marshall, Tre Mason, and Corey Grant embarrass the everloving fool out of CJ Moseley en route to racking up 300 rushing yards against the previously-best rushing defense in the nation?

3. Did y'all not score on a busted-coverage touchdown from the opposite endzone in a similar fashion to the kick return to break the 21-21 tie?
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