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Posted on 12/5/11 at 7:17 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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Let's see, 3 national championship games in 9 years, the SEC has won 6 straight national titles...
...Yes, I LOVE the BCS.
Why would a fan of any SEC school want to change this system is beyond me.
Do y'all REALLY think that if we get rid of the BCS, LSU and the SEC would win MORE championships?
That's just dumb.
So because we have benefited from the flawed system we should support it? Who's to say we would not have won the NC with Rohan Davey in 2001 and Jamarcus Russell in 2006 and still won the 2 we did. The BCS is a flawed system and LSU wins big games at the end of the year.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 7:25 am to TenTex
Tex, many Bama fans will not agree the BCS system is flawed, because it has always worked in our favor. Some day ESPN will take the side of Ohio St. or Texas over us and minds will get changed.
Bama is in and that's not going to change. So, I have no problem with Boone raising hell at all, because I don't care for the BCS myself. I'm a playoff guy and other SEC fans will be when we start getting screwed like OSU.
Bama is in and that's not going to change. So, I have no problem with Boone raising hell at all, because I don't care for the BCS myself. I'm a playoff guy and other SEC fans will be when we start getting screwed like OSU.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 7:29 am to TenTex
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The BCS is a flawed system
every system is flawed
poll 10 random CFB fans and asked them if they could impose their own system, what would CFB use? i bet you couldn't get 5 to agree on a single system, spontaneously
they'd disagree on crucial factors like number of teams, conference champion auto bids, which conferences (if any) get auto bids, etc
Posted on 12/5/11 at 7:32 am to TenTex
TBooneP is a crook. All one has to do is look at the windmill farms of SoCal. Let the bastard investigate. Someone needs to investigate Oklahoma throwing that scripted game from Saturday night, they might find TBoone fingers all in that pie.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 7:32 am to TenTex
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So because we have benefited from the flawed system we should support it? Who's
There is no perfect system that will determine the best team out of 120 with only 12-16 games in a season.
At least the BCS looks at the whole body of work over the course of the season.
If a playoff were installed, get ready for teams who get hot at the end oof the season to "win it all" - which means more mid-majors and more 2-loss (or more) teams.
The BCS favors the big schools, LSU is a big school, I favor the BCS.
Here my team is sitting in the BCSCG, and you want me to cry that it isn't fair?
Posted on 12/5/11 at 7:34 am to stat19
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Someone needs to investigate Oklahoma throwing that scripted game from Saturday night, they might find TBoone fingers all in that pie.
Just stop......
Posted on 12/5/11 at 7:35 am to Smash Mouth Tider
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Tex, many Bama fans will not agree the BCS system is flawed, because it has always worked in our favor. Some day ESPN will take the side of Ohio St. or Texas over us and minds will get changed.
Bama is in and that's not going to change. So, I have no problem with Boone raising hell at all, because I don't care for the BCS myself. I'm a playoff guy and other SEC fans will be when we start getting screwed like OSU.
Smash Mouth Tider, please don't take my post as upset that LSU is playing Bama. The system is what it is and beating Bama a 2nd time will be putting the Cherry on top of our season. It will be a war and either team can win this game. I like LSU's chances because we have more playmakers at every position on the field.
I'm just pointing out that a very powerful, skilled and rich man just had his team spurned by computers and voters after investing 185 million in his schools team. He's old and recognizes he's only got a few years left. I think he goes after destroying the BCS.
Besides, if we had a complete playoff I think we could have 3 or 4 SEC teams in the Final Four some years. Since the playoff would probably come from Conference Champions and a couple of at large positions it leaves the opportunity for any conference to have 2 teams playing for the NC if they are head and shoulders above the rest of college football. I just want the play of teams deciding who's the best and not polls and computers.
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Posted on 12/5/11 at 7:37 am to TenTex
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a very powerful, skilled and rich man just had his team spurned by computers and voters
they were always #3. he doesn't have standing to sue. there is nothing he can sue for, anyway
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if we had a complete playoff
oh so we don't need a playoff, we need a "complete" playoff?
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we could have 3 or 4 SEC teams in the Final Four some years.
and all the money the SEC would make would create such a huge gap that no other conference would agree to the deal
Posted on 12/5/11 at 7:38 am to TenTex
I agree with you Tex, but I'm one of the very few on here. I'm sure that would change, if LSU or Bama ever gets left out like OSU or aubie did.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 7:43 am to TenTex
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Besides, if we had a complete playoff I think we could have 3 or 4 SEC teams in the Final Four some years. Since the playoff would probably come from Conference Champions and a couple of at large positions it leaves the opportunity for any conference to have 2 teams playing for the NC if they are head and shoulders above the rest of college football. I just want the play of teams deciding who's the best and not polls and computers.
Except in the end all you have is a tournament champion and not the best team overall.
There's a reason there isn't a tournament at the end of college baseball and basketball seasons to determine the conference champion, it doesn't take into account the entire season. The conference champion is just the teamm with the best record.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 7:46 am to SlowFlowPro
SlowFlowPro, are you saying all other college sports should adopt the BCS system? All the other college playoff systems work beautifully with no controversy. The only thing that can clear up the BCS mess each year is one team winning all their games while no other team goes undefeated. The major problem is teams are selected by computers and polls for the NC game. Teams need to win there way into the NC game on the field. Let Alabama and Oklahoma play and decide who gets to play LSU for the NC.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 7:50 am to TenTex
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are you saying all other college sports should adopt the BCS system?
no. each sport is different
most other sports don't have the tiers and anti-parity as CFB
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The major problem is teams are selected by computers and polls for the NC game.
what system eliminates this, or people choosing the teams who get in? i'm listening
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. Let Alabama and Oklahoma play and decide who gets to play LSU for the NC.
so you want a 3-team playoff?
Posted on 12/5/11 at 7:50 am to Smash Mouth Tider
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I agree with you Tex, but I'm one of the very few on here. I'm sure that would change, if LSU or Bama ever gets left out like OSU or aubie did.
Smash Mouth Tider, I agree. Just look what happen to LSU in 2003. We got screwed with a split NC because the AP voters were pissed that USC did not get in over an Oklahoma team that got steamrolled in their conference championship game. Some of todays posts are Classic "If your team is in don't rock the boat".
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Posted on 12/5/11 at 7:59 am to TenTex
True dat.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 8:04 am to TenTex
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I sincerely hope Mr. Pickens takes this challenge on to give us a playoff system. I'm tired of the television networks and Bowl games making millions off a flawed system that works for the power brokers but not the fans, coaches and players of college football. It's time to end this mess!
I'm sure you had the same opinion in 2007? Correct? Right? Surely you did?
Posted on 12/5/11 at 8:06 am to TenTex
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His standing would be to discredit the BCS. Championships should be decided on the field, not by polls and computers. As I'm sure you know lawyers and money win legal battles.
You brought up the idea of a lawsuit. Now let the lawyers talk before you embarrass yourself.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 8:07 am to TenTex
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If there is ever a Perfect Storm it's the BCS choosing a school who has not won their conference or division over his Oklahoma State Cowboys who have just won their first ever Big 12 Conference Championship
So Bama is penalized for having to play and having lost to LSU who finished the regular season unbeaten winning their division over Bama and Arkansas(Who is ranked #6 but ineligible for a BCS bowl because they play in the same division/conference as LSU and Bama).
Meanwhile, Oklahoma State is suppose to be given a free pass for losing to a shitty Iowa State team?
Flawed logic is flawed.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 8:08 am to Monticello
i don't get what the angle of this investigation would be. if OSU were 2 last week and 3 this week? ok
but OSU has NOT been 2 for a while. now many expected voters to not vote for a rematch (like in 2006), but that didn't happen. HAD THAT HAPPENED, i could see there being cause for an investigation
what's he going to find out? that a lot of voters had sympathy for OSU, but not enough? CONSPIRACY!!!
but OSU has NOT been 2 for a while. now many expected voters to not vote for a rematch (like in 2006), but that didn't happen. HAD THAT HAPPENED, i could see there being cause for an investigation
what's he going to find out? that a lot of voters had sympathy for OSU, but not enough? CONSPIRACY!!!
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Posted on 12/5/11 at 8:12 am to stat19
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TBooneP is a crook. All one has to do is look at the windmill farms of SoCal. Let the bastard investigate. Someone needs to investigate Oklahoma throwing that scripted game from Saturday night, they might find TBoone fingers all in that pie.
I don't understand all the admiration that Pickens gets. He was a corporate raider, yet the media portrays him as a great oilman. In fact he was nothing like the true oil tycoons like H.L. Hunt, Sid Richardson, etc. All Pickens really has become is an old man who made a lot of money off the backs of Gulf Oil and gave a lot of the money to OSU. I cannot find any reason why he would anointed as the person to sue the BCS and change college football. Maybe the system might have unfairly rewarded Bama, but it's the system everyone agreed upon (including OSU) and everyone will have to live with the fact the SEC will win another title.
This post was edited on 12/5/11 at 8:14 am
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