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re: Why Bryan Harsin believes the Boise State blueprint will work at Auburn
Posted on 7/9/21 at 9:39 am to crazyLSUstudent
Posted on 7/9/21 at 9:39 am to crazyLSUstudent
quote:And that’s a huge hurtle to overcome. LSU has Louisiana. Mullen was not the best recruiter, but Florida sells itself to Florida recruits. He’s able to wing it, even though Florida is not doing as good in recruiting as they used to. They’re still bringing in some good talent. Auburn doesn’t have those luxuries. It’s going to be tough for Harsin if he’s not focused on recruiting.
They are screwed geographically
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Posted on 7/9/21 at 9:41 am to Golfer1
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One good year out of 100 doesn’t equal basketball school.
We’ve had a few “good” years of basketball under Pearl with no sign of letting up anytime soon. Or does winning the SEC two years in a row (outright and tournament) not mean anything?
Posted on 7/9/21 at 9:44 am to abellsujr
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LSU has Louisiana.
then how did 48-11 happen when its so hard to recruit geographically for auburn?
Posted on 7/9/21 at 9:45 am to Leto II
Y’all sure did let up last season…..
Like I said one good year (final 4 congrats).
No other sweet 16s and only twice made it to the round of 32.
Only advancing to the round of 32 twice in 7 years isn’t a good look for anyone claiming to be a basketball school. Also need to win a title to make that claim
Like I said one good year (final 4 congrats).
No other sweet 16s and only twice made it to the round of 32.
Only advancing to the round of 32 twice in 7 years isn’t a good look for anyone claiming to be a basketball school. Also need to win a title to make that claim
Posted on 7/9/21 at 9:48 am to Golfer1
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years isn’t a good look for anyone claiming to be a basketball school. Also need to win a title to make that claim
Maybe you should learn about a little thing called sarcasm. Jesus Christ the average IQ on the rant must be hovering just below mentally retarded.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 9:50 am to TheGusBus34
Because Ed O is not good at sustaining a good overall program. You need both. We’re going to have some big issues come up if we have a bad year, but at least we are bringing in some ballers and if we have to replace O, the team will still be loaded for years. We’re right in there with a lot of the top dogs in recruiting even with all of our issues.
You act like I’m all sunshine and rainbows on O or something
. He has huge issues. It’s no secret.
You act like I’m all sunshine and rainbows on O or something
. He has huge issues. It’s no secret. 
Posted on 7/9/21 at 9:51 am to TheGusBus34
quote:Until the Auburn brass brought in Will Muschamp, defensive recruiting was poor. Muschamp saw glaring deficiencies in Gus' defensive recruiting and changed the entire plan going forward. When Kevin Steele was brought in, he knew how to recruit for defense and he ran his own show and fielded damn good defenses.
he recruited the players dingus, Gus was a super control freak. He literally never let his coodinators do their job, hence his biggest down fall.
Gus was too proud and stubborn to let his OC's do their job and that's a large reason why the offense couldn't evolve with the times. Gus had his hands in the offense recruiting (especially oline), it's rumored that he'd often times change the entire game plan on a Friday before gameday...WTH? He became super predictable and had a problem making in-game adjustments. That stubbornness became asinine when his "scripted" plays didn't work. Some of his play calling was idiotic at times, he is still well known for some of those retarded plays.
If you think Gus controlled the defense and the defensive recruiting, there's nothing more to discuss.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 9:55 am to RT1941
Muschamp and Steele didn’t feel like Malzahn hires to me.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 9:55 am to abellsujr
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And that’s a huge hurtle to overcome. LSU has Louisiana. Mullen was not the best recruiter, but Florida sells itself to Florida recruits. He’s able to wing it, even though Florida is not doing as good in recruiting as they used to. They’re still bringing in some good talent. Auburn doesn’t have those luxuries. It’s going to be tough for Harsin if he’s not focused on recruiting.
Doesn't that also make the same lay of the land an Alabama problem as well? The barners have owned parts of Georgia and Florida for as long as I've been alive. To be a top 10 team in talent nationally you have to have established pipelines somewhere.
And you just said it, Florida is living in the land of plenty and since Urban Meyer and Will Muschamp have been gone your recruiting has been in a constant funk.
Recruiting seems to be a combination of coaching appeal, brand, success, and geolocation.
In short, at the barn, if you win they will come.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 10:02 am to Leto II
quote:JJ & a few PTB pushed both of those hires. As they should've IMO - because they felt the team would do much better if all Gus had to concentrate on was offense. It worked and we know how many times the defense carried those seasons when offense sputtered around.
Muschamp and Steele didn’t feel like Malzahn hires to me.
Gus flip-flopped back and forth so many times between "I'm going to be a CEO type coach" to "I'm a hands-on coach that has to be involved", then back to "I'm going to let my Asst's do the heavy lifting", to "I'M CALLING THE SHOTS ON OFFENSE"!!
The man was in over his head at this level, most of us knew it years before his final demise. He's now in a great spot and I think he'll do well at a lower level program.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 10:04 am to RT1941
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He's now in a great spot and I think he'll do well at a lower level program.
I think so too. Gus ran a clean program with very little controversy. He was paranoid and didn’t have much of a coaching pool today to work from so he hired former underlings and yes-men on offense, at least.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 10:14 am to bamameister
quote:Alabama is an anomaly in that they have the best coaching, structure, and recruiting of any other program in the country. How they got there is because of Saban. It started with his domination in recruiting. He recreated what he had started at LSU. He knew how to build those pipelines. Now it’s become it’s own animal. Winning definitely helped and can definitely improve things for Auburn.
In short, at the barn, if you win they will come.
I don’t really know what else is going on there for them to be so behind rn recruiting wise. Not sure if Gus burned all the pipelines on the way out or what. It’s too soon to make a judgment in Harsin recruiting wise, but there should definitely be concerns.
They may be a start from the bottom type of situation. It just seems like a combination of things. But they can’t get too far behind.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 10:15 am to Leto II
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Your logic is backwards. Imagine UGA posting daily about Saban being a bad coach.
You don't think it would be stupid for a UGA fan to call Saban a lousy coach when he hired and groomed their head coach? Except in this case, Harsin hired Missouri's head coach twice...at 2 different schools. Then add the fact that the guy we just fired and threw $21 million at to go away hired him as well.
Not painting a very good picture of your own coach when you do that.
Who a coach has hired or has been hired by isn't a reflection on their abilities as a HC or otherwise.
What paints a good or bad picture of Saban is his accomplishments. What Muschamp, Kiffin, Sark, Kirby and others do has NO MEANING towards it.
Not to mention some coaches are awesome position coaches but make for terrible head coaches.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 10:16 am to 3down10
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What Muschamp, Kiffin, Sark, Kirby and others do has NO MEANING towards it
Once again, you have it BACKWARDS.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 10:18 am to cardboardboxer
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The Auburn Creed, written in 1943, reaffirmed the morality Harsin developed during his 23 years as a player or coach at Boise State. “A lot of the things in there are what we talked about at Boise and I had been apart of that for a long time,” he said. “I couldn’t stop thinking about it.” Harsin was no longer just interested in Auburn. He needed Auburn.
My God that was so pathetic & lame.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 10:19 am to Leto II
The people who have hired you are ABSOLUTELY a reflection on their judgement as well. Harsin is a bad coach. That means he hires bad coaches and has hired bad coaches in the past.
Get it?
You frickers can say anything you want about Harsin, but Missouri fans can shut the frick up because it is absolutely a reflection on their coach. Unless you are brain damaged like the OP.
Get it?
You frickers can say anything you want about Harsin, but Missouri fans can shut the frick up because it is absolutely a reflection on their coach. Unless you are brain damaged like the OP.
This post was edited on 7/9/21 at 10:21 am
Posted on 7/9/21 at 10:21 am to Leto II
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Once again, you have it BACKWARDS.
I don't have shite backwards. It doesn't matter which direction you go, it's the same stupid argument that who a coach hires means something when it really doesn't.
Just because they coached under Saban, it doesn't mean they will be good head coaches either. Kirby was a pretty good DC under Saban, do I want him as a HC? Nope. Sark did pretty well as the OC his 2nd time around, would I want him as a HC? Nope.
Auburn fans only mention it because you got no other argument. The fact you guys are clutching at who hired who highlights the lack of true accomplishments.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 10:23 am to 3down10
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highlights the lack of true accomplishments.
Yeah the .760 win %.
Can’t wait to see the tears from you twats in November
I’m so sorry you don’t like our coach. I happen to love him. He’s the best hire Auburn has made on paper in 40 years and clearly you bitches are scared. That’s why we are seeing threads from you tards every damn day…in July.
This post was edited on 7/9/21 at 10:25 am
Posted on 7/9/21 at 10:23 am to Leto II
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The people who have hired you are ABSOLUTELY a reflection on their judgement as well.
This is stupid. They are hired for position coaching jobs, which many of them are really good at it.
To think that translate into if they will be a good HC or not is stupid.
Look at Jeremy Pruitt for example. Most teams would LOVE to have him as a DC. Most teams would NOT want him as a HC.
So I guess because Saban hired him as a DC and he did shitty as a HC, it means Saban has poor judgement on his hires?
This post was edited on 7/9/21 at 10:24 am
Posted on 7/9/21 at 10:24 am to abellsujr
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I don’t really know what else is going on there for them to be so behind rn recruiting wise. Not sure if Gus burned all the pipelines on the way out or what. It’s too soon to make a judgment in Harsin recruiting wise, but there should definitely be concerns.
They may be a start from the bottom type of situation. It just seems like a combination of things. But they can’t get too far behind.
Gus just had his worse season recruiting and he got canned. That's not ancient history, that was this past season. Coach Saban didn't come to Tuscaloosa and just destroy recruiting in 2007. He didn't have time. 2008 it was on, big time.
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