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re: Why are Florida fans slamming their Defense

Posted on 10/14/19 at 7:49 pm to
Posted by GatorBait24
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Posted on 10/14/19 at 7:49 pm to
Our players are great, Todd Grantham on the other hand deserves criticism. He died on his stubborn arse hill Saturday. He refused to challenge you guys with bump and run coverage, despite constant blown assignments in his stupid arse matchup zone.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 10/14/19 at 7:51 pm to
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I mean the scheme was just awful and none of us understand why we really didnt adjust all night.


You guys did adjust. Your LBs stayed back to guard the pass in the first half so Burrow read them at the mesh point and gave CEH the ball for a run play.

Grantham adjusted in the second half and the LBs leaned forward to stop the run. The only problem is Burrow pull the ball at the mesh point and threw to the crossing receiver for nice gains.

That’s why the RPO is so hard to stop. The LB has to disguise his position, recover and hope the QB makes the wrong choice. Most CFB LBs are just not talented enough to disguised and recover (they are in the NFL). Burrow made the wrong choices a few times. Just not enough to stop him and the offense.
Posted by GatorBait24
Pensacola
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 10/14/19 at 7:52 pm to
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Seriously though, Texas played a ton of man and got smoked too.

No offense but Texas doesn’t have C.J Henderson and Marco Wilson. Both are man corners and the film shows over and over again they struggle in zone. Grantham didn’t even try if you would have beat us fine at least we would have lost playing to our strength.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118691 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 7:54 pm to
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He refused to challenge you guys with bump and run coverage, despite constant blown assignments in his stupid arse matchup zone.


You sound like an LSU fan complaining about Aranda.
Posted by GatorBait24
Pensacola
Member since Jul 2016
5380 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 7:56 pm to
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ou guys did adjust. Your LBs stayed back to guard the pass in the first half so Burrow read them at the mesh point and gave CEH the ball for a run play. Grantham adjusted in the second half and the LBs leaned forward to stop the run. The only problem is Burrow pull the ball at the mesh point and threw to the crossing receiver for nice gains.
This was an issue but not THE issue. The issue is consistently playing C.J and Marco in zone when they should be playing man.
This post was edited on 10/14/19 at 7:57 pm
Posted by GatorBait24
Pensacola
Member since Jul 2016
5380 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 7:59 pm to
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You sound like an LSU fan complaining about Aranda.

When you’re getting to the QB it’s fine, when you’re getting shredded with 3 step drops all night, it’s time to play press and knock some receivers off there damn routes to try to disrupt timing. We never even tried. Not one damn time.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118691 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 8:00 pm to
I swear this sounds just like the criticism that Aranda gets from LSU fans.

The trend has been LSU back 7 struggles with offenses the first two or three series running zone and as soon as they switch to man they shut down the oppositions offense.
Posted by GatorBait24
Pensacola
Member since Jul 2016
5380 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 8:02 pm to
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e trend has been LSU back 7 struggles with offenses the first two or three series running zone and as soon as they switch to man they shut down the oppositions offense.

Maybe we are all crazy idk, I only coach pee-wee
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118691 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 8:07 pm to
Posted by CajunTiger_225
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
9201 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 8:10 pm to
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Maybe we are all just average football fans with average IQ.

Fify.


Theres always a counter. The offense will always hold the advantage.
Posted by Peepdip
Member since Aug 2016
4946 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 8:15 pm to
What scheme do you think would have worked? No matter what you do, this offense is going to score.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 8:25 pm to
1. When Henderson was thrown at he broke up multiple passes.
2. Texae DBs arent as good as Wilson and Henderson.


Which is why its puzzling. Watch the replay. Most throws are verse Dean and the safeties. LSU went at Henderson rarely, and they were all challenged. Where as vs Dean and safeties they were burnt.

LSU schemed insanely well, and we didnt counter. Just kept doing the same thing that was clearly not working lol. LSU at least changed up later after realizing dropping 8 and daring Trask to beat them was not going to work. We kind of kept the same plan it seems from watching it twice.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 8:31 pm to
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I'm sure Pitts and Van Jefferson would say the same about the LSU secondary
ehhhh. without holding on every play, those 2 wouldn't have done nearly as well. although pitts is a straight up baller. i'm going to enjoy watching him the rest of the year. he's incredible.

jefferson is really good too. not nearly as good as the lsu version but still really good. he's going to really test anyone's secondary

as if it hasn't been acknowledged enough already, trask was awesome. that kid played a whale of a game. tough runner. made some excellent throws

henderson is clearly really talented. tough to beat

lsu's d line is probably being a little undersold right now. fla's o line struggled and held all night but, lsu has a lot of top talent on the d line and they are getting better every week.

fla's darn good and mullen has a great game plan. if it weren't for a once in a decade record setting lsu offense, fla might have won. orgeron's leadership and staff were really underrated but he's starting to get some well deserved recognition
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 8:34 pm to
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the scheme was just awful and none of us understand why we really didnt adjust all night
this has been explained by commentators. it's at the point now where you just have to pick your poison and hope you outscore lsu.

ga southern started out sitting back and lsu picked them apart underneath. texas and the next games, they tried to stop the underneath stuff and burrow smoked them over the top. fla sat back and the lsu run game exploded
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 8:37 pm to
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man them up and force Burrow to throw on them
lsu's receivers are torching everything in their path. you didn't even get to see

mcmath
kirklin
palmer (maybe the fastest of the group)
marshall (every bit as good as jefferson and chase)

holy crap. lsu is freaking loaded at wr
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 8:38 pm to
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He refused to challenge you guys with bump and run coverage
you want lsu to score 70+ through the air?
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 8:40 pm to
While that's fine..make them lol. Dont let Chase be covered by a safety.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 8:40 pm to
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When Henderson was thrown at he broke up multiple passes
and got beaten multiple times

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Most throws are verse Dean and the safeties
that's called low hanging fruit. you're acting like the result would have been different. it wouldn't have
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 8:43 pm to
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I could see Georgia pulling a Tebow/UF type deal after y’all lost to ole miss


They don't have a Tebow type of QB on the team.

shite, they don't even have a Tebow leader on the team. That is not a Championship level team, and they would probably get absolutely crushed by teams like LSU, Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State and so on.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 8:51 pm to
while that may be the case, i just don't see mullen ever going into a game without a rock solid gameplan and now he has fla level athletes. he's going to be tough to beat every time, which sucks.
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