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re: Whomever drafts Mallett will get a steal in the second
Posted on 4/29/11 at 1:20 pm to TxTiger82
Posted on 4/29/11 at 1:20 pm to TxTiger82
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Maybe your bias is blinding you from the truth?
I'm trying to figure out how Mallett has been the sole reason for Arkansas' success the past couple of years after a complete rebuild job left for Petrino while at the same time being such a shitty quarterback. Now that Mallett is gone, Arkansas will once again be shitty, because the shitty quarterback is gone.
It is a conundrum.
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Posted on 4/29/11 at 1:21 pm to TxTiger82
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Not even close. Again, he doesn't have great technique or consistency.
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If you are going to draft a QB with bad technique, clearly you take Newton over Mallett.
Mallett is a big, dumb, strong armed QB with inconsistent performance and footwork.
I don't disagree with everything in that scouting report, but some of it is just plain wrong. More importantly, it was posted before the 2010 season even started. The "catchability" of his passing improved greatly last year. His footwork was a bit better, not perfect but the guy is a statue... His passes DID sail some times, but so do everyone's at times, he was also quite accurate.
You guys talk about the Sugar Bowl and while the final INT was his, look at his completion percentage and then look at how many passes were right on the money and just dropped. If most of those were caught, he would have already been drafted. Everyone talks about how if you pressure him, he freaks out...yet he threw fewer INTs in his last two years than Peyton Manning (22 int), Eli Manning (25 int), and Matthew Stafford (20 int).
Here are several other draft analyses to look at that say nearly the opposite:
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Posted on 4/29/11 at 1:21 pm to DaleDenton
Nobody said he was a shitty QB. The links I posted said he's not first round material because of his inconsistency and poor mechanics.
If you can't see the difference, then I don't know how to help you.
If you can't see the difference, then I don't know how to help you.
Posted on 4/29/11 at 1:23 pm to TxTiger82
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Maybe it is you? Maybe your bias is blinding you from the truth?
Bias? I have not liked Ryan Mallett on the personal level since he has been at Arkansas.
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You are the one being a retard. I posted TWO impartial scouting reports
Post THREE if it makes you feel better, I do not give two rips bruh.
I KNOW Ryan Mallett was rated as the 2nd, maybe 3rd best QB at the end of December. You can try and paint whatever picture fits your argument here, but the facts are there. The drug rumors, along with him being slow as christmas are why he is still on the board right now.
You posted he does not throw a tight spiral in your initial post in this thread, with NO links provided.
Posted on 4/29/11 at 1:23 pm to TxTiger82
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Nobody said he was a shitty QB. The links I posted said he's not first round material because of his inconsistency and poor mechanics.
If you can't see the difference, then I don't know how to help you.
If you can't see what I said has nothing to do with where he is drafted, you can't be helped.
You also must be new to the SECRant...
Posted on 4/29/11 at 1:24 pm to TxTiger82
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I was trying to have a legit discussion and provide legit explanations for why Mallett will be drafted where he will be drafted.
No you're not. You posted links from a year ago.
Posted on 4/29/11 at 1:24 pm to jdevers
The links you posted don't seem very credible considering one said he was #20 overall (draft has already proved that wrong) and the second said he is the top QB in the draft (already 4 drafted and he wasn't one).
So.....
So.....
Posted on 4/29/11 at 1:25 pm to Hawgeye
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I KNOW Ryan Mallett was rated as the 2nd, maybe 3rd best QB at the end of December.
This is true, this is why he was not advised to return for his senior season.
The drug rumors are the only things that has changed since his initial "ranking" for the draft...
Posted on 4/29/11 at 1:25 pm to jdevers
all this stuff is about relative value
It is hardly shocking that Arkansas fans would put more relative value on their former QB...
And btw I do think Mallett gets picked in the second round now... third at the latest. He is not going to be handed the keys to a Corvette but he will be given a chance to develop somewhere and if things break right he will get a chance to start
People are somehow getting stuck on the idea there aren't a lot of options for teams that may want a QB... there are:
kolb, matt flynn, marc bulger, dalton, mallett, stanzi, kaepernick are all possibilities floating around
It is hardly shocking that Arkansas fans would put more relative value on their former QB...
And btw I do think Mallett gets picked in the second round now... third at the latest. He is not going to be handed the keys to a Corvette but he will be given a chance to develop somewhere and if things break right he will get a chance to start
People are somehow getting stuck on the idea there aren't a lot of options for teams that may want a QB... there are:
kolb, matt flynn, marc bulger, dalton, mallett, stanzi, kaepernick are all possibilities floating around
Posted on 4/29/11 at 1:25 pm to Hawgeye
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No you're not.
I'm trying to provide an explanation for his current situation.
Seems like some of you people think he should have been the first pick of the draft, or at least the first QB taken.
Sorry to break it to you guys, but the NFL disagrees. I was trying to come up with a good reason why.
The best reason offered up besides mine is "drug use," and I just don't believe that.
Posted on 4/29/11 at 1:26 pm to TxTiger82
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The links you posted don't seem very credible considering one said he was #20 overall (draft has already proved that wrong) and the second said he is the top QB in the draft (already 4 drafted and he wasn't one).
So.....
So?
You're idiocy is proven once again.
For every draft-nick link you can provide that is right, I can go find Mel Kiper or Todd McShay being dead arse wrong.
Posted on 4/29/11 at 1:27 pm to DaleDenton
Not really surprising when you look at Petrino's history. Notice in Mallet's scouting report that it says, "Poor NFL QB Pedigree (Bobby Petrino)." His quarterbacks always plummet in the draft.
NFL teams don't really care about off-the-field issues -- just look at some of the players already drafted last night. They care about on-the-field issues, which Mallet has (along with every other quarterback coached by Petrino).
Mallet does have a lot of physical talent, though, so he has a chance of being a good NFL QB at some point.
NFL teams don't really care about off-the-field issues -- just look at some of the players already drafted last night. They care about on-the-field issues, which Mallet has (along with every other quarterback coached by Petrino).
Mallet does have a lot of physical talent, though, so he has a chance of being a good NFL QB at some point.
Posted on 4/29/11 at 1:27 pm to Hawgeye
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I KNOW Ryan Mallett was rated as the 2nd, maybe 3rd best QB at the end of December.
he was the 3rd behind Gabbert/Newton
Posted on 4/29/11 at 1:28 pm to Hawgeye
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You're idiocy is proven once again.
For every draft-nick link you can provide that is right, I can go find Mel Kiper or Todd McShay being dead arse wrong.
OK, but the ones I posted seem like they fit the actual situation better.
Again...you keep calling people idiots and retards, but I think you are the only idiot on here (OK, DaleDenton, too.).
This post was edited on 4/29/11 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 4/29/11 at 1:29 pm to Hawgeye
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Hawgeye
What is your explanation as for why Mallett wasn't drafted in the first round?
Do you buy the drug use explanation?
Posted on 4/29/11 at 1:29 pm to adammwilson
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he was the 3rd behind Gabbert/Newton
At this point, his career was basically over with one game remaining.
The only thing that came to light since then was the allegations of drug use. It was already known that he was slow, sometimes didn't set his feet correctly when being rushed, and would sometimes make bad decisions when being rushed.
Posted on 4/29/11 at 1:31 pm to adammwilson
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he was the 3rd behind Gabbert/Newton
No. Gabbert really did not surface until Luck decided to go back to Stanford.
For the entire football season before January it was Luck, Mallett, Cam in some order. The Locker performance against Nebraska the first game really made him(Locker)take a step back.
Luck is the biggest reason Mallett turned pro.
Posted on 4/29/11 at 1:31 pm to jdevers
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The "catchability" of his passing improved greatly last year.
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look at his completion percentage and then look at how many passes were right on the money and just dropped. If most of those were caught, he would have already been drafted.
Posted on 4/29/11 at 1:31 pm to DaleDenton
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The only thing that came to light since then was the allegations of drug use. It was already known that he was slow, sometimes didn't set his feet correctly when being rushed, and would sometimes make bad decisions when being rushed.
true but I think as more and more people focus on you and watch more tape your stock goes up (C. Ponder) or down (R. Mallett).
Posted on 4/29/11 at 1:32 pm to TxTiger82
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What is your explanation as for why Mallett wasn't drafted in the first round?
Do you buy the drug use explanation?
Mallett is still on the board because he is a slow white boy with rumors of drug issues. Bottom line.
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