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Posted on 7/26/13 at 1:13 am to TxTiger82
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Unless Georgia has some serious addition by subtraction happening,
We do, it is called losing Rodney f'n Garner. Chris Wilson cannot possibly be worse, I could coach a 3 man DL better than CRG did. Drunk and high. In my sleep.
Posted on 7/26/13 at 1:18 am to LSU Tiger 216
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You think you will beat LSU by double digits?
I won't be surprised. Not sure that LSU O will be able to score too much beyond 21 or so on us and your D stopping Gurley when he was dragging Bama defenders down the field is...unlikely. Though I do think you'll defend the pass well.
Still I don't see 30-35 being put up by what should be one of the best offenses in college football to be unrealistic. So 10-14 is not a ridiculous speculation.
We don't just return Gurley in that run game either, we return 18 of 21 OL in the 3-deep and are also adding back Kolton Houston with the incoming freshman like Kublanow. I'll be surprised if anyone can really stop our ground game.
Posted on 7/26/13 at 2:22 pm to Nicolae
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I won't be surprised.
I'd be disappointed.
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Not sure that LSU O will be able to score too much beyond 21 or so on us
Based on LSU's offensive struggles these past 5 years and your new defensive line coach's philosophy?
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and your D stopping Gurley when he was dragging Bama defenders down the field is...unlikely.
To be fair, Alabama's nose guards weren't 100% in that game, and the defense was below the Saban standard. The linebacker unit should be much improved this season. Defensive line and secondary remain to be seen. My point is that I wouldn't be surprised if 2013 LSU D > 2012 Alabama D and your argument isn't a very good one.
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Though I do think you'll defend the pass well.
I think so too. They've got experience back there, and LSU is D.B.U.
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Still I don't see 30-35 being put up by what should be one of the best offenses in college football to be unrealistic.
While it's possible, I don't consider your prediction based in reality. Your offense didn't score that much versus any good defense last season: 7 garbage points versus South Carolina, 17 versus Florida with 3 interceptions and a +3 turnover margin, 21 versus a good (but not great or elite) Alabama defense. Now you're expecting to score 30-35 versus a defense that's usually on par with Alabama's and greater than everyone else's.
I'd also like to point out that no offense scares Chavis; see 2010 Auburn, 2011 Oregon, 2011 Arkansas, 2011 Georgia, and 2012 Texas A&M. They've had their bad games: 2010 Arkansas and 2012 Ole Miss, but they are rare. Don't count on getting one. quote:
So 10-14 is not a ridiculous speculation.
On a bad day for LSU' offense, maybe just maybe you could win by such a margin. You better hope the offense has an off-game. They were good in November.
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We don't just return Gurley in that run game either, we return 18 of 21 OL in the 3-deep and are also adding back Kolton Houston with the incoming freshman like Kublanow. I'll be surprised if anyone can really stop our ground game.
I don't follow everyone in the league, so I won't predict that your ground game will be stopped; however, it can be slowed. Also, greater running backs than Gurley and Marshall have been shut down . Don't think it's out of the question for an SEC defense to step it up and shut down your running game. Then Murray will have to pass, and against a good secondary that usually means at least one interception.
Posted on 7/26/13 at 2:25 pm to Nicolae
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I won't be surprised.
Really?? How often does LSU lose by double digits? Baring some kind of 2008-esque regressing that's really really unlikely.
Posted on 7/26/13 at 2:25 pm to Gardevoir
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Gardevoir
You make a lot of good points, but as you said you dont follow everyone. This could be the best offense UGA has had in a long long time. They have an insane amount of depth everywhere on offense and I truly think they will be top 5 in the country. Now, the defense is another issue. If they can come together and play well this will be a special year for Georgia. We will all know about the defense before the LSU game though.
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Posted on 7/26/13 at 2:27 pm to Lsupimp
Bama wins this one
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Posted on 7/26/13 at 2:31 pm to td01241
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You make a lot of good points, but as you said you dont follow everyone. This could be the best offense UGA has had in a long long time. They have an insane amount of depth everywhere on offense and I truly think they will be top 5 in the country. Now, the defense is another issue. If they can come together and play well this will be a special year for Georgia. We will all know about the defense before the LSU game though.
You'll learn about the defense before the LSU game, but there's nobody in this country that runs a defense that will prepare you for LSU's. I was making a point that LSU does not struggle against good offenses; points are much harder to gain against LSU than yards. I also made the point that running backs like Mark Ingram and Trent Richardson have put up low numbers against SEC defenses in the past, so it's possible that a defense or two will step it up this year to stop an inferior running back.
Posted on 7/26/13 at 2:34 pm to heartbreakTiger
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Bama wins this one
By double digits
Posted on 7/26/13 at 3:57 pm to Gardevoir
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I'd be disappointed.
Honestly, I could see it being much worse if LSU is drastically improved on offense and can't replace what it lost on D.
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Based on LSU's offensive struggles these past 5 years and your new defensive line coach's philosophy?
Not sure if sarcastic or not, but yes, LSU's struggles on O are a big factor to me. They couldn't eclipse 25 points against Auburn, UF, USC, Bama, TAMU, Ark, or Clemson last year and they've lost 3 starter from the OL, Hill, and apparently Mett may be injured as well. Even with him healthy, I think it is asking a lot to expect much beyond that ~21 point threshold.
It isn't just the new DL coach, it is all the extra depth we have this year. There was no rotation last year, thanks in large part to poor prep by the coach, but also because there simply weren't very many guys to rotate. That is changed this season.
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To be fair, Alabama's nose guards weren't 100% in that game, and the defense was below the Saban standard. The linebacker unit should be much improved this season. Defensive line and secondary remain to be seen. My point is that I wouldn't be surprised if 2013 LSU D > 2012 Alabama D and your argument isn't a very good one.
The ol' tired, "you guys only did well because we sucked" argument, eh? Not 100%? Neither were ours, you must've never played football if you think there are more than a couple of guys on the field at 100% after Game 1 at any point in the season. That is a cop-out, not a reason or explanation.
I do expect the LB unit to be improved as well since Bama returned damn near everyone outside of the lines. I won't be floored if LSU is better than that D, though it won't be by much, but UGA put up 28 on you guys while shooting ourselves in the foot quite a bit.
IMO, 30 is not unrealistic to believe we can score on LSU. This, along with TAMU, will be the best offense in the SEC this year by a wide margin. quote:
While it's possible, I don't consider your prediction based in reality. Your offense didn't score that much versus any good defense last season: 7 garbage points versus South Carolina, 17 versus Florida with 3 interceptions and a +3 turnover margin, 21 versus a good (but not great or elite) Alabama defense. Now you're expecting to score 30-35 versus a defense that's usually on par with Alabama's and greater than everyone else's. I'd also like to point out that no offense scares Chavis; see 2010 Auburn, 2011 Oregon, 2011 Arkansas, 2011 Georgia, and 2012 Texas A&M. They've had their bad games: 2010 Arkansas and 2012 Ole Miss, but they are rare. Don't count on getting one.
Just like you have throughout this entire thread, somehow everyone else is going to improve by leaps and bounds while UGA either stands still or regresses in all areas. I somehow don't see that happening...
This offense will be better this year than it was last, we returned almost the entire depth chart. We have a very good QB and the best RB in the conference, possibly in the college game. We return what opposing coaches voted the best returning TE in the SEC. 18 of 21 on the 3 deep at OL while returning a highly ranked OL in Houston and adding an elite OG prospect in Kublanow. Every WR returns save 2. Somehow though, our best case scenario is to be equal to what we were last year?
It is hard to consider your predictions based in reality when you have such a clear disdain for UGA and cannot fathom the possibility that we could show improvement on either side of the ball.
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On a bad day for LSU' offense, maybe just maybe you could win by such a margin. You better hope the offense has an off-game. They were good in November.
Did Cam walk through that door? This isn't an offense that has shown to be at an elite level at any point in the last few years. They have had great games, they've had poor games, but they have not been consistently impressive at any point. I do not see why you think is a foregone conclusion they will break out against us.
They were good in November? Ehh, they put up 17 on y'all, 20 on Ark, and blew out the MS schools.
We were better, but that doesn't seem to matter, even though we return more of our offense...
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I don't follow everyone in the league, so I won't predict that your ground game will be stopped; however, it can be slowed. Also, greater running backs than Gurley and Marshall have been shut down . Don't think it's out of the question for an SEC defense to step it up and shut down your running game. Then Murray will have to pass, and against a good secondary that usually means at least one interception.
You couldn't slow Gurley in the SECCG, why you think it will be so easy for everyone this year? Because of your 2 NTs out there playing at 13%?
I said it was possible it could be slowed, USC may have a shot at more if we start off slow, but I don't think anyone else does. If teams do slow the run game, it is because the box is being stacked and since Murray was actually middle of the pack last year in INTs and was the #2 most efficient passer, it's not something to scoff at "forcing him to throw", especially when he has such a good receiving corp. Doesn't mean he won't meltdown, but I'm not going to expect it, he has the best run game and OL since he has been at UGA.
Posted on 7/26/13 at 4:07 pm to Nicolae
Just to add fuel to the fire, I recently saw that the UGA offense gained the most yards per play in the country last year. Yes, that same offense that some in this thread have hated on. You don't put up the most yards per play in the country (yes, even more than the Fighting Manziels) by mistake.
Posted on 7/26/13 at 4:15 pm to Gardevoir
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I also made the point that running backs like Mark Ingram and Trent Richardson have put up low numbers against SEC defenses in the past, so it's possible that a defense or two will step it up this year to stop an inferior running back.
Am I reading this correctly in that you are saying that Gurley is an inferior running back to Ingram and Richardson? Don't let the Heisman fool you, Gurley is much more talented than Ingram.
Posted on 7/26/13 at 4:21 pm to dawg4lyfe
Aba-so-lutely! 
Posted on 7/26/13 at 4:31 pm to Gardevoir
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Don't think it's out of the question for an SEC defense to step it up and shut down your running game. Then Murray will have to pass, and against a good secondary that usually means at least one interception.
Don't want to get into the other stuff. I too, would be surprised if we put up 35 pts on LSU. However, if LSU steps it up and shuts down our running game, they would HAVE to leave themselves vulnerable to the pass. I don't think they can shut down the running game without bringing help up from the secondary, and that would leave them vulnerable. Also, Georgia does not have a dominate receiver or even two. There are 4 or more receivers that can catch the ball very well, so they won't be able to bring help up from the secondary and try to double up on one dominate receiver. This offensive truly does present more matchup problems for teams....I don't remember ever seeing such a well balanced, explosive offense in college football. Doesn't mean there hasn't been one...I just don't remember it.
Any way you slice it, it will be one of the great games of the year. It is a great time to be a fan of the SEC!
Posted on 7/26/13 at 4:37 pm to Gardevoir
Typically powerful defenses do well shutting down powerful offenses. But honestly, this offense has a chance to be special....real special. It'll be interesting.
I THINK TCU will present a REALLY tough test for LSU. TCU has a great defense, and with their quarterback back, could have a decent offense. I'll be watching that game with a lot of interest.
I THINK TCU will present a REALLY tough test for LSU. TCU has a great defense, and with their quarterback back, could have a decent offense. I'll be watching that game with a lot of interest.
Posted on 7/26/13 at 11:41 pm to DawgsLife
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Don't want to get into the other stuff. I too, would be surprised if we put up 35 pts on LSU. However, if LSU steps it up and shuts down our running game, they would HAVE to leave themselves vulnerable to the pass. I don't think they can shut down the running game without bringing help up from the secondary, and that would leave them vulnerable. Also, Georgia does not have a dominate receiver or even two. There are 4 or more receivers that can catch the ball very well, so they won't be able to bring help up from the secondary and try to double up on one dominate receiver. This offensive truly does present more matchup problems for teams....I don't remember ever seeing such a well balanced, explosive offense in college football. Doesn't mean there hasn't been one...I just don't remember it.
Excellent responses Georgia fans. I appreciate your insight; you guys added a few details that were missing in the forecast. LSU fans are nowhere to be found, so I'll wait until y'all are done playing South Carolina before making certain comments.
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Any way you slice it, it will be one of the great games of the year. It is a great time to be a fan of the SEC!
No doubt. If LSU can perform like they did against Alabama, then the game should be very interesting. If the LSU that played Clemson shows up, then LSU might be in for a long day. I'm anticipating this game more than the Texas A&M/Alabama game because it's not being hyped.
Posted on 7/27/13 at 12:17 am to Nicolae
20% of the uga roster is comprised of O-linemen?? Really?
How bout you name the three lost starters on the O-line because I can name four returning starters there for LSU.
Mett injured? What happened or do you expect him to be before the LSU/uga game?
Tiges return top four WRs that return more production from '12 than what uga does at the WR position.
LSU returns nine starters on offense. Well maybe only eight depending on what happens with Hill. With or without him LSU will have top half of SEC group of RBs.
It's this simple. If Cam has improved Mett and the LSU offense by the uga game then tigers win.
LSU's "D" will, how can I put this. Tigers defense will simply be better than the daws on that side the ball. LSU will have to go against the better offense though.
LSU will also have the advantage on special teams. This alone has won the tigers a couple of close games the last few years.
How bout you name the three lost starters on the O-line because I can name four returning starters there for LSU.
Mett injured? What happened or do you expect him to be before the LSU/uga game?
Tiges return top four WRs that return more production from '12 than what uga does at the WR position.
LSU returns nine starters on offense. Well maybe only eight depending on what happens with Hill. With or without him LSU will have top half of SEC group of RBs.
It's this simple. If Cam has improved Mett and the LSU offense by the uga game then tigers win.
LSU's "D" will, how can I put this. Tigers defense will simply be better than the daws on that side the ball. LSU will have to go against the better offense though.
LSU will also have the advantage on special teams. This alone has won the tigers a couple of close games the last few years.
Posted on 7/27/13 at 12:50 am to 167back
Looks like a thesis.
Posted on 7/27/13 at 12:56 am to DAWGJAX
If I knew what that was would I be offended?
Posted on 7/27/13 at 4:16 am to 167back
Dude, feel free to hang your hat on the returning LSU WRs out-producing the returning UGA WRs, but that's asinine. Let's ignore the fact that one of our starters only played in 5 games last year due to a season ending injury and let's also ignore the UGA TE production. Arthur Lynch has been voted as high as 2nd team AA that I've seen. His back up Jay Rome was even more highly touted out of high school.
There are lots of arguments as to why LSU could beat UGA, but the prowess of your passing game isn't even close to one of them.
There are lots of arguments as to why LSU could beat UGA, but the prowess of your passing game isn't even close to one of them.
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