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re: Who wins the Georgia vs LSU game in Athens on September 28 ?
Posted on 7/21/13 at 12:55 pm to DawgsLife
Posted on 7/21/13 at 12:55 pm to DawgsLife
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He got held under 200 yards SEVEN times! (Counting Clemson)
Who cares? Look at the completion percentages, not the yardage. Those percentages will reveal exactly what I just posted ... Mett struggled through October. After that he was fine.
Even against Clemson he completed 60% of his passes. The problem against Clemson wasn't Mett. The problem was we had trouble getting into the endzone, and we couldn't cover Hopkins. We had that game won and pissed it away. Still upsets me.
This post was edited on 7/21/13 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 7/21/13 at 12:57 pm to TxTiger82
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We had trouble getting into the endzone
Direct result of your QB
Posted on 7/21/13 at 1:00 pm to FourThreeForty
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Direct result of your QB
No, it was the direct result of our offensive line that couldn't protect the QB in key situations.
Posted on 7/21/13 at 1:01 pm to 167back
Great stat. Ummmm.....shall we compare yards per game? (285 to 200) how about yards per passing attempt? (10.0 to 7.3) TD? 937 to 12)
Keep in mind these are TEAM stats, not individual. Georgia actually threw 399 passes and LSU threw 356. Not THAT big of a difference. Completion %? (63.7 to 58.4) Total yards? (3991 to 2607)
Georgia also had a better running game...but nearly as pronounced. AND that was with two true freshmen running backs and we return the entire offensive line.
LSU had 35 sacks on defense and Georgia had 32, while LSU picked off 18 passes to Georgia's 13. Sure...LSU has a good advantage on defense. Nobody is arguing that. But we will have to wait until Sept. to see who wins the game.
Keep in mind these are TEAM stats, not individual. Georgia actually threw 399 passes and LSU threw 356. Not THAT big of a difference. Completion %? (63.7 to 58.4) Total yards? (3991 to 2607)
Georgia also had a better running game...but nearly as pronounced. AND that was with two true freshmen running backs and we return the entire offensive line.
LSU had 35 sacks on defense and Georgia had 32, while LSU picked off 18 passes to Georgia's 13. Sure...LSU has a good advantage on defense. Nobody is arguing that. But we will have to wait until Sept. to see who wins the game.
Posted on 7/21/13 at 1:02 pm to DawgsLife
The big thing with mett's passing numbers is that bama, state, ole miss and ark were the last four regular season games.
You know the back end of the season when the passing game started to click a little. When those TWO FR starting on the right side of the O-line got a little experience and were comfortable out there.
If you translate those four games over a 12 game schedule it breaks down to over 265 yards and over a 60% completion rate. most tiger fans would be extatic with those numbers.
Plus, LSU returns more production to the WR position than does the dawgs.
You know the back end of the season when the passing game started to click a little. When those TWO FR starting on the right side of the O-line got a little experience and were comfortable out there.
If you translate those four games over a 12 game schedule it breaks down to over 265 yards and over a 60% completion rate. most tiger fans would be extatic with those numbers.
Plus, LSU returns more production to the WR position than does the dawgs.
Posted on 7/21/13 at 1:02 pm to TxTiger82
Seriously? And the O-Line is going to be worlds better because......?
Posted on 7/21/13 at 1:04 pm to TxTiger82
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167
Pretty much exactly what I said in my first post. That's why, if I'm Les, I'm not relying on mett for anything other than PA bombs and screens while my OL and RBs carry the load.
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Tx
I think his lack of mobility was a big part of that as well. My main gripe about him was that he seemed like a statue back there. Still, I think we are thinking the similar thing just veiled in bias. I think that LSU establishing the run is the most important thing they need to focus on and it's their best bet for winning in Athens. I think you'll agree it'd be a helluva lot easier to win with mett supplementing the run than on his arm that'll open up the run.
Y'all gotta keep in mind that while I'm optimistic I'm the furthest from confidence. I think we're about to bring a big 12 style of play to most of our games this year
Posted on 7/21/13 at 1:04 pm to DawgsLife
If your defense can't get off the field your offense will never have the ball.
Posted on 7/21/13 at 1:05 pm to 167back
Yea, I'd take our WRs and TEs over LSUs everyday and twice on Sunday
Posted on 7/21/13 at 1:07 pm to 167back
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lus, LSU returns more production to the WR position than does the dawgs.
Really? And how did you come up with that? Georgia lost 1 receiver. We threw for a whole lot more yardage and yet your receivers were somehow more productive? how do you get those numbers? Care to share them with me?
So...Mettenberger is better because he just is? Wonder why he didn't do so well against a terrible Clemson defense, then? I mean, all that improvement he and your O-Line did and all.
Posted on 7/21/13 at 1:09 pm to Damn Good Dawg
While I could certainly be wrong once the season starts, I think the run defense will be better than many are anticipating, namely because of the guys lining up. JT, a RS last year, has folks absolutely giddy in Athens town, I also really like Garrison Smith- he was really good by the end of the season last year. Towards the end of the season, I think the problem was really a depth issue and too many guys were trying to get to the ball in the backfield rather than just clog their lane--it made it easier for the opposing OL as guys ran themselves out of position. That is something that can be addressed and improved upon in the offseason.
I think that LSU's OL will certainly be a challenge, but for those who have been reading between the lines of UGA coaches' comments for years now, they know that the coaches are really looking forward to seeing what this unit will do this year.
I think that LSU's OL will certainly be a challenge, but for those who have been reading between the lines of UGA coaches' comments for years now, they know that the coaches are really looking forward to seeing what this unit will do this year.
Posted on 7/21/13 at 1:09 pm to 167back
Waitwaitwaitwait. You keep saying Mettenberger is great and your receivers are more productive than Georgia's....so why would our defense NOT get off the field? Sounds to me like you guys will score on the first play of every possession.
:rotflmao:
Posted on 7/21/13 at 1:12 pm to DawgsLife
Calm down there my partner. If that post is about my comment about ints per X amt of passes thrown. That was in response to some uga fan saying Mett is more likely to throw a pick. Which really isn't the case.
murray has 937 passing TD's in three seasons??? How have they lost a single game????
As for the run game. LSU has a solid set of RBs also. Tigers return four starters to the O-line. Solid there also.
murray has 937 passing TD's in three seasons??? How have they lost a single game????
As for the run game. LSU has a solid set of RBs also. Tigers return four starters to the O-line. Solid there also.
Posted on 7/21/13 at 1:16 pm to DawgsLife
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He got held under 200 yards SEVEN times! (Counting Clemson) And two other games he threw for 228 and 238 yards. hardly someone I would hang a hat on.
Boy, you seem to be missing my point ENTIRELY. I have NOWHERE said LSU will 'hang their hat' on Mett. As a matter of fact I have said the complete OPPOSITE.
Look at these rankings for LSU's passing offense:
2010 107th
2011 106th
2012 92nd
...yet in that span LSU has gone 34-6 (with a win over UGA), good for 5th best in the country, with one SEC title and a BCSCG appearance. LSU doesn't have to throw the ball for over 200 yards to win games, in fact, if they do throw for over 200, it's probably because they're losing.
There seems to be very little appreciation for running the ball and playing good defense and special teams to win ball games anymore - but that's LSU's game.
ETA: I see where you may be confusing me with another LSU poster.
This post was edited on 7/21/13 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 7/21/13 at 1:17 pm to SoGaFan
Granted I'm cautious I see what your saying and id be lying if I didn't say I was excited to see what Wilson does and how our DL looks like with more rotation. Still, if I'm worried about anything it's just the front 7, not just because of youth, but because it's just been a weakness of ours (except against UF, apparently). I have more confidence in their pass rush than their run stopping and I think that's why LSU can't just rely on the mettsiah
Posted on 7/21/13 at 1:17 pm to DawgsLife
Hell, UGA's receivers were more productive last year after losing two of the top receivers during the year and a third playing the first 4 games mostly on defense.....
While Murray distributes the ball too much for any one receiver to have really mindblowing stats, I truly believe that no one has a deeper WR corps than UGA will this year, and that was before Reggie Davis, a true freshman, has been blowing up 7 on 7 workouts this summer.
A word on Murray: I think a lot of his INTs have come from balls being tipped or throws over the middle where I am pretty sure he just didn't see a defender. I think both of these are due to height. It is what it is. The other have often come from passing sailing on him- he worked on his mechanics this season to help improve that so we will just have to see how it all works out. However, for all the crap that Murray has taken with both the fanbase and opposing fanbases he has done a pretty damn good job with very little around him in regards to the OL and RB situation his first two years. Last year, he was very good apart from the SC game when the entire teams played like arse, when he lost his security blanket receiver (Bennett) the week of the game, and when he was also told right before the game that his father had just been diagnosed with cancer, not to mention having to deal with the OLs inability to block anyone that game. His Florida game wasn't great, but when it came down to it, Murray made the throws on the winning drive with some good catches and YAC skills from Mitchell. Also, I never see anyone giving him any credit for bringing UGA right back to score again when Bama came back to take the lead in the second half. Murray is far from perfect and has definitely made some boneheaded throws, but I am always amazed at how little credit he is given within his own fanbase.
While Murray distributes the ball too much for any one receiver to have really mindblowing stats, I truly believe that no one has a deeper WR corps than UGA will this year, and that was before Reggie Davis, a true freshman, has been blowing up 7 on 7 workouts this summer.
A word on Murray: I think a lot of his INTs have come from balls being tipped or throws over the middle where I am pretty sure he just didn't see a defender. I think both of these are due to height. It is what it is. The other have often come from passing sailing on him- he worked on his mechanics this season to help improve that so we will just have to see how it all works out. However, for all the crap that Murray has taken with both the fanbase and opposing fanbases he has done a pretty damn good job with very little around him in regards to the OL and RB situation his first two years. Last year, he was very good apart from the SC game when the entire teams played like arse, when he lost his security blanket receiver (Bennett) the week of the game, and when he was also told right before the game that his father had just been diagnosed with cancer, not to mention having to deal with the OLs inability to block anyone that game. His Florida game wasn't great, but when it came down to it, Murray made the throws on the winning drive with some good catches and YAC skills from Mitchell. Also, I never see anyone giving him any credit for bringing UGA right back to score again when Bama came back to take the lead in the second half. Murray is far from perfect and has definitely made some boneheaded throws, but I am always amazed at how little credit he is given within his own fanbase.
This post was edited on 7/21/13 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 7/21/13 at 1:19 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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LSU doesn't have to throw the ball for over 200 yards to win games, in fact, if they do throw for over 200, it's probably because they're losing.
There seems to be very little appreciation for running the ball and playing good defense and special teams to win ball games anymore - but that's LSU's game.
I totally agree, but I don't think LSU is going to have the same caliber of defense they have had in years past and they are going to have to put up a lot of points on offense to keep up with an elite offensive team like what UGA returns.
Posted on 7/21/13 at 1:20 pm to Damn Good Dawg
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I have more confidence in their pass rush than their run stopping and I think that's why LSU can't just rely on the mettsiah
Let's not mince words. Georgia's run D sucked last year. Furthermore, you return only 3 in the front 7. And worse, three of the four guys you lost were Josh Jenkins, Jarvis Jones, and Alec Ogletree - basically the good players from your front 7.
Posted on 7/21/13 at 1:21 pm to Monticello
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they are going to have to put up a lot of points on offense
I agree. Hence a lot of the arguing in this thread has centered around how good Georgia's defense is (or isn't).
Posted on 7/21/13 at 1:24 pm to TxTiger82
Dont be so certain, idk who josh Jenkins is but Jordan Jenkins is back with amarlo herrara and garrison smith. So we have some good ones left as well the pastor of disaster who at least has experience. Plus, the kids stepping in arent 3*s, that's the beauty of thUGA, amirite?
ETA: and again, while I'm defending some aspects of our defense I'm NOT saying they'll be good. Hell, I'm just rooting for serviceable but as I said to SoGa I am optimistic. And as everyone points out, our defense wasn't too studly vs the run last year so it's not like they can get a ton worse
ETA: and again, while I'm defending some aspects of our defense I'm NOT saying they'll be good. Hell, I'm just rooting for serviceable but as I said to SoGa I am optimistic. And as everyone points out, our defense wasn't too studly vs the run last year so it's not like they can get a ton worse
This post was edited on 7/21/13 at 1:27 pm
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