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Posted on 2/28/09 at 10:26 pm to
Posted by puttytat
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Posted on 2/28/09 at 10:26 pm to
okay....you take that game......we'll take the previous 5 plus 2 NCs.......
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 2/28/09 at 10:28 pm to
If ya only could see how yall are mimicing the "delusional" Bama fans. Living in the past and expecting results every year.


Having some sustained success is great ain't it?
Posted by puttytat
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Posted on 2/28/09 at 10:35 pm to
Well I'll state the obvious that you can't stay on top forever, but you always like to remain consistently competitive......sustained success.....I have a feeling that future LSU/Bama matchups will be very meaningful in the years to come..... .....here's to a good rival although we know we'll never replace Auburn in that respect for you guys.
This post was edited on 2/28/09 at 10:36 pm
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 2/28/09 at 10:44 pm to
I think it will fall like this:

Tennessee.. always will be the biggest rival.
Auburn.. always will be the most hated.
Lsu.. for awhile, it looks like it will be the toughest.
Posted by puttytat
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Posted on 2/28/09 at 10:48 pm to
West vs. East........Tennessee vs. Bama; Florida vs. LSU ..... permanent East opponents......damn you just gotta love this conference....wow!
Posted by Governor
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Posted on 2/28/09 at 10:58 pm to
Coming from an Alabama fan that lives in LA and is surrounded by lsu fans, to me, lsu is our biggest rival. Although its only been a decent rivalry in the last 6 or 7 years. It was pretty much a given that bama would win everytime before that. Used to be the only thing tigers wanted to talk about was baseball.
Posted by puttytat
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Posted on 2/28/09 at 11:03 pm to
"It was pretty much a given that bama would win everytime before that"

It was pretty competitive in the '80s, and that's before we went on our '90s run in baseball.....the fact that you consider LSU your biggest rival ought to tell you something
Posted by Governor
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Posted on 2/28/09 at 11:21 pm to
Oh it does. In a perfect world, bama and lsu would be undefeated every year before that November game. My pops graduated from lsu and my mom is from Alabama. Its interesting to say the the least every year. My mom and dad were walking around before the game last year in their respective school colors. One guy yelled to my dad, "you need to divorce her arse". Funniest shite I've heard in a while.
This post was edited on 2/28/09 at 11:32 pm
Posted by BT4LSU
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Posted on 3/1/09 at 8:43 am to
Gotta call you on this one....

quote:

Although its only been a decent rivalry in the last 6 or 7 years. It was pretty much a given that bama would win everytime before that. Used to be the only thing tigers wanted to talk about was baseball.

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Well then you're not quite up with your history.
Given LSU wasn't worth a damn in baseball until 1987, then you, like your conterparts, continue to focus in on only one period of LSU football.

This mentality reminds me so much of flaming UF fans. If you look at the UF run, for example, you'd see that LSU never trailed in the series until UF's run in the 1990s. The first 80 years of UFs existience we were better. Since 1997, they are slightly better, not by much. Again, we talking about 90 out of 100 years. Along the way LSU has more NCs, more SEC titles, more bowl wins, more top 10 finishes.... etc.

So with Bama, let's try this angle.

Most young, fully mature, college grads, married kids, or high school kids who are LSU fans are used to seeing Bama as a middle packing,
overrated, cheating, past tense program sapping off of LSU's success for a long time now.

Bama being a factor is new to them. They used to seeing LSU beat bama pretty regularly.

Most 45 year olds can remember the run Bear had and cling to it. Most 25 years olds don't even know about it.

So what is the real truth?

The LSU bama series has been a lot closer than you want to admit over the last 60 years.

Let's look at these 6 decades. In the 1950s
LSU won the series, 3-2-1



Bama conviently didn't have to play LSU in the early 1960s, from 1960 to 1964. For example, despite Bama supposedly winning the 1961 NC, LSU won the SEC that year. Had LSU got the chance to play in the Sugar Bowl, rather than the Orange Bowl, many think LSU would have hammered Bama.

LSU then played Bama from 1964 to 1969, Bama winning 4 out of 5. So it was 6-4-1 in faor of Bama those 20 years.

LSU won in 1970. So that makes it 6-5-1.

The Bama had it's 12 year run. The 1970s were 9-1
in favor of Bama.

Pretty much no one beat Bear in that period, much like Spurriers run at UF. That was what seperated Bama from the rest of the SEC. Again, it's not indicitive of the other 6 decades we're looking at. It was the exception.

The Bear had a great run, but that all ended in 1982.

In the 1980s, LSU was overall the better program as bad a we were a couple years, we still beat Bama in 82,84,86 and 88 and tied then in 1985, when RL missed a 19 yeard FG at the end of the game. In that stretch LSU finished first more times in the SEC (84,86,88) or second (28,87)
than any other team in the SEC, including Bama.

BAma eeked out a 5-4-1 series that decade. LSU had more gold.

Alas, then came Archer/Curley. A man beyond all men doing the impossible, blowing LSU clear off the college football map.

And then 2000 came around. Bama had their problems, and LSU then went on a tear, winning
seven out of 10.

So there you have it... 5 of the last 6 decades this series is just about dead even.

As in the 1950s, 1960s and 1980s, and as it is now, the norm was for LSU to be quite competitive or better.

So when you add it all up... from 1950 to now....
its a lot closer than you think, or Bama fans want to believe. To the older Bama fans, the continue to be delusional. And to the younger LSU fans... it's an insult.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 3/1/09 at 9:56 am to
wow BT4LSU, you must have alot of free time on your hands.
Posted by BT4LSU
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Posted on 3/1/09 at 12:03 pm to
Yep. Weather outside major sucks.

But when the facts are out there for everyone to see, most delusional Bama responses are, well, like yours.

To think Bama fans were used to beating LSU is the same as LSU being used to beating them as much or more in 5 of the last 6 decades.

And while LSU fans grasp that, it appears some Bama fans can't.

Perhaps....like you?
This post was edited on 3/1/09 at 12:08 pm
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/1/09 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

he LSU bama series has been a lot closer than you want to admit over the last 60 years.


Here's an easier breakdown:

2000 - 2008 Lsu leads 7-2
1990 - 1999 Bama leads 8-2
1980 - 1989 Bama leads 5-4 with one tie
1970 - 1979 Bama leads 9-1
1960 - 1969 Bama leads 5-1 thats all we played then
1950 - 1959 Lsu leads 3-2 with one tie

Last 60 years- Bama 31 wins Lsu 18 wins 2 ties


quote:

So there you have it... 5 of the last 6 decades this series is just about dead even


Just wow.
This post was edited on 3/1/09 at 12:24 pm
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 3/1/09 at 12:36 pm to
Hell.. I just gotta quote and save this spew for posterity.

quote:

So what is the real truth?

The LSU bama series has been a lot closer than you want to admit over the last 60 years.

Let's look at these 6 decades. In the 1950s
LSU won the series, 3-2-1



Bama conviently didn't have to play LSU in the early 1960s, from 1960 to 1964. For example, despite Bama supposedly winning the 1961 NC, LSU won the SEC that year. Had LSU got the chance to play in the Sugar Bowl, rather than the Orange Bowl, many think LSU would have hammered Bama.

LSU then played Bama from 1964 to 1969, Bama winning 4 out of 5. So it was 6-4-1 in faor of Bama those 20 years.

LSU won in 1970. So that makes it 6-5-1.

The Bama had it's 12 year run. The 1970s were 9-1
in favor of Bama.

Pretty much no one beat Bear in that period, much like Spurriers run at UF. That was what seperated Bama from the rest of the SEC. Again, it's not indicitive of the other 6 decades we're looking at. It was the exception.

The Bear had a great run, but that all ended in 1982.

In the 1980s, LSU was overall the better program as bad a we were a couple years, we still beat Bama in 82,84,86 and 88 and tied then in 1985, when RL missed a 19 yeard FG at the end of the game. In that stretch LSU finished first more times in the SEC (84,86,88) or second (28,87)
than any other team in the SEC, including Bama.

BAma eeked out a 5-4-1 series that decade. LSU had more gold.

Alas, then came Archer/Curley. A man beyond all men doing the impossible, blowing LSU clear off the college football map.

And then 2000 came around. Bama had their problems, and LSU then went on a tear, winning
seven out of 10.

So there you have it... 5 of the last 6 decades this series is just about dead even.

As in the 1950s, 1960s and 1980s, and as it is now, the norm was for LSU to be quite competitive or better.

So when you add it all up... from 1950 to now....
its a lot closer than you think, or Bama fans want to believe. To the older Bama fans, the continue to be delusional. And to the younger LSU fans... it's an insult.
Posted by BT4LSU
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Posted on 3/1/09 at 12:37 pm to
Alahunter, you just don't get it.

Add the 50s, 60, 80s 90s and 00 together.
It comes out to Bama being up 22-17.

Check out the NCs, and SEC titles
in those 5 decades. Specifically 50s, 60s
80s 90s and 00s.

Dig that one up. It'll be pretty close too.

Here's the point: You guys wish to mock Florida's 1990s run as overrated, knowing full and well no excuse can make hide the fact Florida is/has been/will be better...yet given the same scenerio you fail to 5 decades of very close competition between LSU and Bama.

Like I stated, since I was a teenager, I've been very used to beating Bama. Kids who are in high school now are very used to beating Bama every year. Pretty close to Mississippi State style.

Sorry, just like Arkansas in 2006, one year means nothing.

You won the SEC WEST- nothing more. And we're pretty confident you have no chance in hell in winning it this year, either.

"JUST WOW" back to your sad, undeniable, Jimmy Carter Billy Beer "Bear only mattered back then when I was a kid" based delusion.
This post was edited on 3/1/09 at 12:48 pm
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/1/09 at 12:42 pm to
quote:

Care to refute the above?


Yeah.. you emphatically stated the last 60 years we are about even.

Last 60 years- Bama 31 wins Lsu 18 wins 2 ties

Not even close.

quote:

Like I stated, since I was a teenager, I've been used to beating Bama.


You must be quite young then, because you've only been dominate in this decade to qualify used to beating someone.

quote:

As I stated, LSU has been pretty even most of the last half century


Last 60 years- Bama 31 wins Lsu 18 wins 2 ties

quote:

overall better the last decade

Congrats, you actually got something accurate.
Posted by KPCrimson
Dothan, AL
Member since Jun 2008
2103 posts
Posted on 3/1/09 at 3:53 pm to
quote:

BT4LSU
Dude, lay off the sauce a bit. First of all prior to this decade, LSU was 29-11-2 against Bama, dating back to 1950. No matter how you spin it, this was not a close series. It took you going 7-2 against us this decade to make it 31-18-2. If you base the entire history of the Bama-LSU rivalry on this decade, then yeah I guess you are used to LSU winning. If, however, you were alive in the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's, or 90's, then no you weren't. There is no other way to spin this. The series hasn't been close this decade. Congrats. The series wasn't close in the 90's, 70's or 60's (Bama was 22-4 against LSU). If you take the 50's and 80's and add them together, we are dead even at 7-7-2.
This post was edited on 3/1/09 at 3:55 pm
Posted by BT4LSU
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Posted on 3/1/09 at 4:12 pm to
Alahunter, you didn't read the post, nor the subject matter. It started about someone saying they grew up expecting to beat LSU. Unless he is
40 years old or more, that's not the case.


I simply stated in 6 decades, except for the 1970s decades than not LSU and Bama are very close.

I went as far back as 1950 to show how most of the decades are very competitive.

And finally, as made the example that just because UF had a ten year run doesn;t make UF better than LSU or Bama. Bama fans alays agree to this.

However, despite the fact that Bama refutes UF, they fail to refute their own criteria in their match up against LSU.

I simply pointed out that if you throw out the
same criteria (Bama's run in the 1970s, the series is very close- only 5 games difference- over the OTHER 48 years. In other words, more decades than not, the teams are evenly matched.

But sice the ownership comments are being pushed,
if anyone is currenly used to beating anyone, it's LSU beating Bama. Even since your last NC 17
long years ago, LSU has more NCs, SEC titles, bowl victories, better rankings and is easily the better program.

And provided that you were born in 1992, he or she would be a senior in high school now, wondering how Bama got as lucky as Auburn did in 2004 or Arkansas did in 2006. They've grown up seeing you guys as losers most of the time.

I've spent many moons telling you guys no one has dominated this series over the last 30 years.

Once again, tell me where I am wrong-and read the subject matter a little better this time.
Posted by Governor
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Posted on 3/1/09 at 4:27 pm to
You're wrong on all of it. What's our record, 44 & 23? There is nothing close or comparable when one team has almost twice as many wins as the other. 12 ncs versus 3. 21 secc vs 10, or how ever many you got. Understand? I think the admins need to put a word limit on your posts. Its fricking ridiculous that we have to read thru that much bullshite.
This post was edited on 3/1/09 at 4:30 pm
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Member since Feb 2009
55779 posts
Posted on 3/1/09 at 4:30 pm to
quote:

Yep. Weather outside major sucks.

But when the facts are out there for everyone to see, most delusional Bama responses are, well, like yours.

To think Bama fans were used to beating LSU is the same as LSU being used to beating them as much or more in 5 of the last 6 decades.

And while LSU fans grasp that, it appears some Bama fans can't.

Perhaps....like you?


Responding with "you have alot of free time on your hands" is delusional? You are making yourself look like an idiot.
Posted by KPCrimson
Dothan, AL
Member since Jun 2008
2103 posts
Posted on 3/1/09 at 5:59 pm to
quote:

I simply stated in 6 decades, except for the 1970s decades than not LSU and Bama are very close.
Yeah, and we've all stated several times that you are wrong in your thinking.

quote:

I went as far back as 1950 to show how most of the decades are very competitive.
Wrong again.

The 50's were competitive. LSU wins 3-2-1
The 60's not so much. Bama wins 5-1
The 70's negative ghost rider. Bama wins 9-1
The 80's were competitive. Bama wins 5-4-1
The 90's well, weren't close. Bama wins 8-2
The 00's not close either. LSU wins 7-2 so far

So, again, 30 of the 60 years you were owned, 20 of the years were competitive, and after "you know who arrived" LSU has owned Bama.........well.........until said "you know who" came here..........

quote:

Even since your last NC 17
long years ago, LSU has more NCs, SEC titles, bowl victories, better rankings and is easily the better program
ONLY due to this decade. Since you are wanting to wipe away a 9-1 70's campaign, what happens if we wipe away, obviously the greatest decade in LSU football history? The series is beyond laughable. From 1950-1999 Bama was 29-9-2 against LSU. Hardly competitive.

Also, you were the one that brought up our last NC, Bama has had 7/10+ win seasons. LSU has had 6. Bama has won the SEC West 7 times (However, we represented in 93. AU won. Arky represented in 02 even though we won). LSU has won 4. Bama has won the 2 SEC Titles. LSU has 3. See, you aren't leaps and bound ahead of us as the better program. If anything we just swapped decades.

quote:

wondering how Bama got as lucky as Auburn did in 2004 or Arkansas did in 2006.
They could simply ask anyone with any knowledge of football whatsoever, and they would tell them well, here's how it went for the last 100 years. Oh, and the guy that is coaching Bama now, yeah he started all of this in the year 2000. RTR
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