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re: Which SEC school will this happen to first?

Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:42 am to
Posted by Gtmodawg
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Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:42 am to
If black athletes were serious...and who is to say they aren't...about making any kind of change they desired they could do so by only signing and playing for schools in states where their idea of what is right is in place....schools would jump through any hoop to have a winning football team...a national title contender...all of that clinging to the past will cease when the writing is on the wall and one school is dominating recruiting and on the field because they are viewed by black athletes as being acceptable. It won't happen because most black athletes are either satisfied with the way things are or think nothing will ever change and they will merely do what is best for them and theirs...but the possibility is there for them to make school administrators and state legislators jump through any number of hoops....there would not be anything off the table if they did indeed join ranks.
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:55 am to
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BILLIONS BILLIONS BILLIONS BILLIONS BILLIONS BILLIONS

You don't get it. The schools aren't making BILLIONS. Most schools don't even make a profit. They're lucky to break even. Most lose money. So the system should be changed for the few schools that do profit ? You don't have a clue how this works.

That's a load of BS, when CV19 hit multiple Media sources wrote that the P5 stood to lose 5 BILLION in Revenues among the 70 P5 Colleges, just from FB, MBB wasn't included in the figure

The 70 P5 Colleges gross BILLIONS each year

Athl Depts cook the books to make themselves look like break-even entities, it's a scam

The way Coaches pay has escalated proves that, barely break-even entities would never run the risk of giving Coaches those ridiculous contracts if they were barely breaking even

Also, trim some of the fat away from non Revenue Sports that are allowed to operate at a DEFICIT into perpetuity

So you think it's OK to let 10 Sports lose money every year, forever, and then complain when those 2 sports that produce ask for more fair Economic treatment

Dude you're beyond pathetic, you dig your heels in and ignore all logic
This post was edited on 6/15/20 at 10:57 am
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:01 am to
Interesting perspective

I feel that most Athletes think they can hold their nose and put up with a-hole Fans like kajunman for 3-4 years until they graduate , go Pro , or transfer

Deep down inside, the hatred is too deep rooted for serious changes to be ever made, and I think most of these Athletes know it
Posted by InGAButLoveBama
Member since Jan 2018
924 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:30 am to
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re: Which SEC school will this happen to first?Posted on 6/15/20 at 4:28 am to philly444
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Give them an inch...

Wrong analysis pal!!

These issues were caused when Chicken shite cowards of a bygone Era allowed monuments to be erected in the late 1890s and in the mid 1950s to show defiance for Supreme Court victories that allowed all Americans to be treated more equal, if horrible decisions hadn't been made back then, these current demands wouldn't be necessary

Had chicken shite cowards not "gave them an inch...." decades ago, none of this would be necessary

Are you one of those guys that defend loser arse traitors from years ago, that have no impact on your life?


Got news for you. Abe Lincoln was a hard core racist. He never waivered from thinking Blacks and Whites were not compatible. Modern historians ignore it, but his words are there for all to see. By the way, are Vietnam vets "losers"? We sure did not win that war, and it was not a just war, especially given the millions we killed in that war.
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:35 am to
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Got news for you. Abe Lincoln was a hard core racist. He never waivered from thinking Blacks and Whites were not compatible. Modern historians ignore it, but his words are there for all to see. By the way, are Vietnam vets "losers"? We sure did not win that war, and it was not a just war, especially given the millions we killed in that war.

Your comprehension skills are poor, Vietnam Vets were NOT loser arse TRAITORS, like the cowardly, treasonous, traitorous confederates were

The Final Word is that they are Dead, Racist, Losers
Posted by Jster15
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:35 am to
What’s next from these idiots..abolish every SEC program from every university in the south founded before the civil war?
Posted by sonuvapitcher
Member since Aug 2008
1687 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:38 am to
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Why do so many fans personalize CFB to the extent that the ONLY WAY they can enjoy the Game is if they know the players are unpaid?



Why is the value of a full ride scholarship marginalized by the same people who criticize the unfairness of the current situation, where today's college graduates don't get a fair shot at quality of life because they are saddled with insurmountable student loan debt? You can't have it both ways. For me it isn't a matter of whether they are or aren't "paid". They are compensated with a full ride scholarship. Yes there is a small percentage of college athletes whose abilities sell tickets and increase revenue, but the vast majority of college athletes don't fall into that category. If someone, say for instance, Joe Burrow, whose name on a #9 LSU jersey would sell, by all means give him royalties. Or if he can get a payday from a signing session, that's all good too. But there is no way even the most profitable programs can pay every scholarship athlete job scale pay.
Posted by InGAButLoveBama
Member since Jan 2018
924 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:40 am to
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re: Which SEC school will this happen to first?Posted on 6/15/20 at 5:02 am to InGAButLoveBama
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I am terrified of this happening at UA. Our president has been way too ready to appease the constant clamors for "diversity, equity and inclusion." As a an alumni, I am not sensing much appreciate for diversity of opinion, I resent the notion that Whites are to blame for inequities, and I am certainly starting to feel unincluded.

Meanwhile, since Dr. Bell arrived on campus, UA has dropped dramatically in the school rankings and Dr. Bell seems more focused on pleasing folks who will NEVER be pleased till the school is no longer majority White.

One of the reaons UA is not willing to raise its admission standards, is because the SJWs would shriek if the already large enrollment of Black students started to decline. Auburn, Clemson, and other schools can get away with it, but for some reason. Alabama's top flagship must have the lower admission standard to ensure diversity.


Get a new tinfoil hat, geez!!

Blacks make up 13 % of the US Population, when you take into account the kind of K-12 schooling necessary to get accepted to a mediocre arse place like Bama, there will never be more than 6% enrollment of Black students at Bama, all other minorities make up smaller percentages of the US Population than do blacks

Even upper income Blacks have a lower avg SAT than lower income Whites, so the "bad schools" excuse won't fly.

Socioeconomic Stats show that there aren't enough Blacks in K-12 private schools and enough Blacks in K-12 Suburban Schools in upper middle neighborhoods to ever make a serious dent at Bama

See my above response about the SAT, which is a close proxy for IQ


Next issue, it pretty damn racist of you to "defend" Bama from ever becoming majority minority, aren't Minorities Americans also?
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If the majority is minority, because they were able to gain admission to UA, without a sacrifice in standards, that is one thing, but if they become the majority because standards are loosened, then hell no. But my main point is that they will never be satisified.


And don't mention HBCUs, from the 1st day they were founded they have always been open to any Student from anywhere on the Planet that wanted to attend, only a-holes like you have excluded people from every segment of American life with this mantra of "we might be in the minority at Bama one day"

I don't support excluding Blacks fool

Your issue is that white male enrollment is declining in colleges all over the US as white males get outworked by middle eastern students born in the US, Asian students born in the US , and international students, also white females are out preforming white males academically combined with more females being born
Not sure where you get your data, but Whites are still performing second best in academics and in college entrance exams, second only to Asians.

Your issues lie elsewhere, but you lay the blame at the feet of Blacks that want to be treated more equal

I am not blaming Blacks, I am blaming cucked White liberals who are afraid of their own shadow, and are too afraid to discuss the data.

Bama should be inviting to all Alabamana and all Americans, not just those that think like you that don't think hateful arse confederate memorials are no big deal

It already is, and already has one of the largest enrollments of Blacks in the nation. But if it raised its admission standards, that number would sadly decline. There is a reason GA Tech and UGA have so many less Black students than UA.

I got news for you, name another group that could possibly be responsible for for inequities in America, since you resent the notion that whites are to blame?

First of all, I don't blame anyone but science denying SJWs. There are well documented real average group differences across multiple traits that can not be explained by environmental factors. Some of them, African Americans excel, others they don't.

After the Separate but Equal law was passed by the Supreme Court, who ignored it whites or Blacks?

When Blacks tried to demand that local Govts live up to that Law a Black Church would be burned or there would be a lynching to intimidate Blacks from asking that the Law be followed

You act as if you're not familiar with American History, any of it

And before I go why should the school be majority white, as long as the Grads no matter what ethnicity they are, as long as they serve the State of Bama and the US, why is it important to YOU that the school remain majority white, shouldn't great Alums be your only concern


I have already said what I need to say. You are an ignorant fool. You are prob one of those people who say they "fing love science," but when it comes to IQ data, you suddenly become a creationist.

This post was edited on 6/15/20 at 11:41 am
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
4637 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:46 am to
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it's a scam


BLM is a scam. That's the definition of scam. You're a fool if you think most D1 colleges are turning a profit.

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So you think it's OK to let 10 Sports lose money every year, forever, and then complain when those 2 sports that produce ask for more fair Economic treatment


You would be the first one crying about females not getting a "fair" opportunity because their sports have been abolished. Let a black female complain and your soapbox would reach to the sky about inequality. You haven't thought things out. Those females, a lot of them black are able to break generational poverty because of those educations paid for by the football team. You can't have it both ways. Logic isn't your friend unless you let it be. I've never been a fan of Title 9. However, I'm wise enough to know there is benefits for others who wouldn't get an opportunity, so I set my feelings aside. Unlike you, I'm looking at the greater good through the lens of opportunity for many who would never get it. You should try it sometimes.



Posted by InGAButLoveBama
Member since Jan 2018
924 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 12:43 pm to
I have never understood why we can't pay the student athletes at least a work study salary.
Posted by Gtmodawg
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Posted on 6/15/20 at 1:24 pm to
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Interesting perspective I feel that most Athletes think they can hold their nose and put up with a-hole Fans like kajunman for 3-4 years until they graduate , go Pro , or transfer Deep down inside, the hatred is too deep rooted for serious changes to be ever made, and I think most of these Athletes know it


I think most black people deal with it in the same manner. Of course I can't and do not mean to speak for black people but I would suspect that most simply acknowledge the fact and deal with it as well as they can. I would bet that is a leading factor in the fact that a relative few ever become very active in non-violent protests...they are too busy living life. I am not naïve enough to know that black folks have a harder roe to hoe than I do as a white man....simply the difference in my family 3 generations ago and the difference in the average black family from the same era put me ahead of the curve...denying this is simple dishonesty....and my family were share croppers and lint headed mill hands...they weren't landed gentry and most did not have a high school education....but they did have the advantage of not being discriminated against based on their race, legally by the state....that is not unsubstantial.
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 1:27 pm to
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But there is no way even the most profitable programs can pay every scholarship athlete job scale pay.

Can you effin read and comprehend?

I never hinted at what you wrote above

I never mentioned every scholly athlete

I clearly wrote, give FB & MBB enhanced Stipends since those are the only 2 sports that turn a profit

If your sport loses money, then obviously there's no stipend money for you, in fact money losing sports are lucky to even have scholarships

Wall Street doesn't pay Admin Assts & Janitors what they pay the Investment Bankers, why, because they don't generate Revenues like the investment bankers, if the hatred of the Players in College Sports was replaced the will to do the right thing, the same could happen in College Sports where the producers get to share in the profits they generate

Don't know why this is so hard to understand, but folks like you keep going off on agenda driven tangents while reading their own facts into the issue

In the future, you're entitled to your own opinion, you are not entitled to your own facts
Posted by CelticTiger
Saint Louis
Member since Feb 2019
1138 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 1:27 pm to
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These include donating 0.5% of the department's annual earnings to the Black Lives Matter movement and black organizations


Far from knowing this for sure, I would think it would be against some law or regulation for a state-sponsored university to make donations directly to any organization of its choosing.
Posted by InGAButLoveBama
Member since Jan 2018
924 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 3:54 pm to
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re: Which SEC school will this happen to first?Posted on 6/15/20 at 1:24 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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Interesting perspective I feel that most Athletes think they can hold their nose and put up with a-hole Fans like kajunman for 3-4 years until they graduate , go Pro , or transfer Deep down inside, the hatred is too deep rooted for serious changes to be ever made, and I think most of these Athletes know it


I think most black people deal with it in the same manner. Of course I can't and do not mean to speak for black people but I would suspect that most simply acknowledge the fact and deal with it as well as they can. I would bet that is a leading factor in the fact that a relative few ever become very active in non-violent protests...they are too busy living life. I am not naïve enough to know that black folks have a harder roe to hoe than I do as a white man....simply the difference in my family 3 generations ago and the difference in the average black family from the same era put me ahead of the curve...denying this is simple dishonesty....and my family were share croppers and lint headed mill hands...they weren't landed gentry and most did not have a high school education....but they did have the advantage of not being discriminated against based on their race, legally by the state....that is not , unsubstantial.


Pull out the violins! Do you think Asians benefit from White privilege? Hell no. But they say frick it and outperform Whites anyway. The excuse making for poor behavior and lower achievement among Blacks is just pathetic and condescending. It is doing them no favor in the long run. People profile and discriminate largely based on pattern recognition not "racism."
Posted by paladine36
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 6/15/20 at 4:38 pm to
theyre coming after south carolinas mascot get ready
Posted by NytroBud
LaFayette
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/15/20 at 5:09 pm to
Don't worry, it'll be coming to a university near to you in the future.
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 6/15/20 at 5:28 pm to
Well, it is Austin Texas, and Tom Herman is the HC.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American dissident
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Posted on 6/15/20 at 5:39 pm to
Whatever Rohan said

This post was edited on 6/15/20 at 5:40 pm
Posted by Gtmodawg
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Posted on 6/15/20 at 5:43 pm to
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Pull out the violins! Do you think Asians benefit from White privilege? Hell no. But they say frick it and outperform Whites anyway. The excuse making for poor behavior and lower achievement among Blacks is just pathetic and condescending. It is doing them no favor in the long run. People profile and discriminate largely based on pattern recognition not "racism."


The story in the last 70 years or so belies your take but nothing will ever compel some folks to consider black folks aren't inferior. Sad.

And do you realize how poor some in folks are in the Asian community in the US and the amount of crime they commit? About 5% of Americans are Asian....they commit about 1.8% of the crimes for which there are convictions in the US. That is higher per capita for convictions than whites. Asians also are at a disadvantage in the US when compared to white people...considering that MANY Asians come to the US after being educated in the US or after receiving a higher education somewhere else in the world prior to coming to the US that disadvantage is less than it is for some groups but it is still real and it still impacts the Asian community. Second generation Asian Americans who were born into abject poverty perform about as well as any race born into abject poverty. Asians also tend to live in smaller clusters where they can and do look after one another and wield some political influence in those areas...Asians are the white folks in Hawaii and parts of California. Other races, more dispersed into more diverse communities, do not have this advantage. It is a statement to ones prejudicial tendencies if not out right racism to lay a blanket statement repeating a racial stereotype that one race out performs another simply because of their race. There are MANY factors which lie at the success of Asian immigrants in the US and a lot of it has to do with their having immigrated here from an area where they were treated far worse and lived in far worse conditions and will stop at nothing to be successful...including being sponsored by someone who exploits them no end until such time that they are able to save enough to buy their way out of servitude....folks born here into abject poverty do not have that option and it should not be allowed by any group but it happens.
Posted by Zeroforwinger
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Posted on 6/15/20 at 5:44 pm to
How much are you donating now?
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