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re: Which other football program do you see as most similar to yours?
Posted on 3/9/10 at 5:59 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 3/9/10 at 5:59 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Everything I read says that MSU was placed on some pretty harsh probation. They weren't banned from bowl contention, but they still lost quite a few scholarships.
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Posted on 3/9/10 at 6:00 pm to RollTide1987
They self punished and took away a few of their own scholarships, but not a ton.
This was RE: a steroid scandal. Not paying players or anything else. It may have been classified as "major" but it wasn't nearly as crippling as some others.
Had it been that bad then he would have stayed at Michigan State. He obviously thought he had done as much as he could do there and if the sanctions had been so bad he would have wanted to stick around for a few years, but he didn't because they didn't make that big of a difference.
This was RE: a steroid scandal. Not paying players or anything else. It may have been classified as "major" but it wasn't nearly as crippling as some others.
Had it been that bad then he would have stayed at Michigan State. He obviously thought he had done as much as he could do there and if the sanctions had been so bad he would have wanted to stick around for a few years, but he didn't because they didn't make that big of a difference.
This post was edited on 3/9/10 at 6:02 pm
Posted on 3/9/10 at 6:01 pm to Draconian Sanctions
The NCAA also took away scholarships.
Posted on 3/9/10 at 6:01 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Ole Miss simply doesn't have the resources to consistently pull in top 5 classes on a consistent basis.
Resources don't recruit, coaches do.
And every other coach LSU hired between Charlie McLendon and him failed to take LSU anywhere close to being a national power.....and now Miles has taken you back to mediocrity, too.
Stop acting like LSU has some kind of magic associated with it--it doesn't and you are kidding yourself if you think it does......
Posted on 3/9/10 at 6:03 pm to NJReb
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Resources don't recruit, coaches do.
Posted on 3/9/10 at 6:04 pm to NJReb
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And every other coach LSU hired between Charlie McLendon and him failed to take LSU anywhere close to being a national power
Jerry Stovall- Took LSU to 2 BCS level Bowl games
Bill Arnsparger- SEC Championhip and 2 BCS bowl games
Mike Archer- SEC Championship and BCS Bowl game
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Stop acting like LSU has some kind of magic associated with it--it doesn't and you are kidding yourself if you think it does......
Didn't say there was any "magic", just that LSU is a major college football program and Ole Miss isn't.
Posted on 3/9/10 at 6:05 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Ole Miss isn't
My daddy is gonna beat yours up
Posted on 3/9/10 at 6:07 pm to hehatedrew
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My daddy is gonna beat yours up
Come on now...you're better than this.
It's "My daddy's gonna sue your daddy"
Posted on 3/9/10 at 6:09 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Didn't say there was any "magic", just that LSU is a major college football program and Ole Miss isn't.
And you are full of crap for saying it.
Bottom line is LSU was one game over .500 in SEC play in the 25 years before Saban arrived--as mediocre as could be and not acknowledged by ANYBODY to be a national power during that time--and a special coach changed that for a short period of time....just as Alabama had been mediocre for most of the last 30 years until they hired the same coach......
One special coach does not elevate you to "great program" status after decades of mediocrity, particularly since you have been nothing but mediocre since his players graduate......
Sorry, but that is the honest-to-God reality, whether you like it or not.....and the fact that you have only been able to break even against Ole Miss for the last two decades just underscores that reality.....
Posted on 3/9/10 at 6:10 pm to NJReb
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NJReb
btw, Ole Miss has been to exactly 1 BCS level bowl game since integration.
Posted on 3/9/10 at 6:10 pm to NJReb
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Alabama had been mediocre for most of the last 30 years until they hired the same coach......
They won the NC in '92. Just saying. Please leave now
Posted on 3/9/10 at 6:13 pm to NJReb
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And you are full of crap for saying it.
No, I'm not.
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Bottom line is LSU was one game over .500 in SEC play in the 25 years before Saban arrived
The 90's were the worst decade in the history of the program, by far, which skews these numbers significantly. Not saying that they don't count, they certainly do. But the 1990's are clearly the exception, not the rule.
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One special coach does not elevate you to "great program" status after decades of mediocrity, particularly since you have been nothing but mediocre since his players graduate......
One decade of mediocrity, which has been conceded. Which is also the exception not the rule. And yes one great coach does do that.
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and the fact that you have only been able to break even against Ole Miss for the last two decades just underscores that reality.....
So what? We don't measure our program by how we do against Ole Miss.
This post was edited on 3/9/10 at 6:14 pm
Posted on 3/9/10 at 6:14 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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We don't measure our program by how we do against Ole Miss.
Please care about us more
Posted on 3/9/10 at 6:16 pm to hehatedrew
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Please care about us more
If it makes you feel better, I have a great time disrupting the walk of champions every two years
This post was edited on 3/9/10 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 3/9/10 at 6:17 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Good, maybe you drew more attention than the KKK did at our game this year 
Posted on 3/9/10 at 6:18 pm to hehatedrew
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Good, maybe you drew more attention than the KKK did at our game this year
I thought that would be the most offensive thing I saw in Oxford this year, then the last 90 seconds of the game happened
This post was edited on 3/9/10 at 6:19 pm
Posted on 3/9/10 at 6:19 pm to Draconian Sanctions
That was a day full of hilariousness
Posted on 3/9/10 at 6:20 pm to hehatedrew
On the bright side, it shortened Les' leash significantly.
Posted on 3/9/10 at 6:22 pm to NJReb
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just as Alabama had been mediocre for most of the last 30 years until they hired the same coach
Alabama has 11 ten win seasons since Bear died. Nebraska, Florida State, Miami, Texas, Ohio State, Florida and Virginia Tech are the only programs with more ten win seasons in that time period.
Posted on 3/9/10 at 6:23 pm to hehatedrew
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That was a day full of hilariousness
Not for us.
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