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re: Which is the better job? (Miss St./Ole Miss)

Posted on 11/29/11 at 10:20 am to
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 11/29/11 at 10:20 am to
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Now tell me why MSU had an all-white team, again?


The same reason EVERY team in the SEC did in 1963, the political leaders of the south were segregationists who used this stance to get elected and stood on this ground.

Babe McCarthy said that he would have loved to have been able to recruit black athletes just like Bear Bryant.

The politics of the time period just didn't allow for it to happen in the 60's
This post was edited on 11/29/11 at 10:21 am
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 11/29/11 at 10:20 am to
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The same reason EVERY team in the SEC did in 1963, the political leaders of the south were segregationists who used this stance to get elected and stood on this ground.



So you're saying MSU was still segregated then.....
Posted by Tds & Beer
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Posted on 11/29/11 at 10:21 am to
i was on an all white basketbal team in high school and we basically begged african americans to come to our school.
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 11/29/11 at 10:22 am to
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Convenient to just ignore my point in it's entirety and agree to highlights.


Was only condeding the points with which I agree.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 11/29/11 at 10:25 am to
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i was on an all white basketbal team in high school and we basically begged african americans to come to our school.





and this has absolutely nothing to do with a University refusing to let blacks in.....
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 11/29/11 at 10:25 am to
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So you're saying MSU was still segregated then.....


No it wasn't, there just werent any AA students who applied after what Merideth had to go through.

In 1965 there was a state law that was passed to begin to start the transition of integration of public schools and universities.

This post was edited on 11/29/11 at 10:30 am
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 11/29/11 at 10:27 am to
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Girls: Ole Miss (a lot of out-state sorostitutes)


Also a lot of in-state talent, amigo.
Posted by DMagic
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Posted on 11/29/11 at 10:28 am to
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only because no AA students applied after what Merideth had to go through


Please you'll have to link a verifiable source on this one Al. Not all of MSU problem's stem solely from OM like some in your fanbase believe.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 11/29/11 at 10:29 am to
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Yes, only because no AA students applied after what Merideth had to go through.



They why didn't MSU integrate before Merideth enrolled at Ole Miss?
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 11/29/11 at 10:30 am to
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In 1963, the ALL WHITE Mississippi State basketball team which represented a SEGREGATED UNIVERSITY went against the orders or Racist Governor Ross Barnett who forbade them from playing against teams with black players. Coach Babe McCarthy snuck his team out of the state of Mississippi in order to play in the NCAA tournament.


FTFY

Just because your all white team representing an all white school decided that they should play in the NCAA tournament (a no brainer decision) doesn't mean that State is some sort of bastion of liberal, progressive thought.
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 11/29/11 at 10:31 am to
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They why didn't MSU integrate before Merideth enrolled at Ole Miss?


Actually Southern Miss tried first but had a student denied and arrested on a false charge.

Ole Miss was the first to integrate because it was the top college in the state in the time, and also because Merideth had the full backing of the NAACP (Due to his involvement in it) and also was able to get the federal government and Pres. Kennedy involved.
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 11/29/11 at 10:31 am to
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i was on an all white basketbal team in high school and we basically begged african americans to come to our school.


Oh, so Mississippi State did the same in 1963? Link plzkthx.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 11/29/11 at 10:32 am to
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Actually Southern Miss tried first but had a student denied and arrested on a false charge.

Ole Miss was the first to integrate because it was the top college in the state in the time, and also because Merideth had the full backing of the NAACP (Due to his involvement in it) and also was able to get the federal government and Pres. Kennedy involved.





ok......but why didn't MSU integrate before Ole Miss?








ETA: Al, don't even bother answering. Everyone knows that you'll just pull up some more completely irrelevant info because you just can't fathom "Good ol' MSU" was racist as frick back in the 1960's just every major school in the south.
This post was edited on 11/29/11 at 10:33 am
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 11/29/11 at 10:32 am to
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State is some sort of bastion of liberal, progressive thought


These two don't belong in the same sentence.
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 11/29/11 at 10:32 am to
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No it wasn't, there just werent any AA students who applied after what Merideth had to go through.


Jesus. Tapdancing. Christ. You've got to be kidding me.

Talk about revisionist history.
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 11/29/11 at 10:33 am to
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only because no AA students applied after what Merideth had to go through




Please you'll have to link a verifiable source on this one Al. Not all of MSU problem's stem solely from OM like some in your fanbase believe.



Seconded. Al, do you honestly expect anybody to believe that Mississippi State so sorely wanted black students in the 1960's but couldn't get them to apply because mean old Ole Miss was too busy scaring them away?

Come. On.
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 11/29/11 at 10:34 am to
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ok......but why didn't MSU integrate before Ole Miss?


Merideth wanted to attend a college in Mississippi with a Law school, Ole Miss was the only one that did.

State was an agricultural school as was Alcorn State for AAs. Thus all majors offered at State were offered at Alcorn.

Ole Miss had the ONLY Law School in the state and this is why the Federal government came in to help Merideth.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 11/29/11 at 10:34 am to
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ETA: Al, don't even bother answering. Everyone knows that you'll just pull up some more completely irrelevant info because you just can't fathom "Good ol' MSU" was racist as frick back in the 1960's just every major school in the south.
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 11/29/11 at 10:35 am to
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Al, do you honestly expect anybody to believe that Mississippi State so sorely wanted black students in the 1960's but couldn't get them to apply because mean old Ole Miss was too busy scaring them away?


I have posted NOTING that says anything negative about Ole Miss. I have just stated what I know from what I learned in Mississippi History and the Civil Rights class I took in college.
Posted by Phil A Sheo
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Posted on 11/29/11 at 10:35 am to
Ole Miss, Mainly b/c Starkvegas is in the middle of Frickin No Where
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