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re: Which football program will be better the next 25 years: Texas A&M or Arkansas?
Posted on 12/28/12 at 4:02 pm to bamasgot13
Posted on 12/28/12 at 4:02 pm to bamasgot13
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Too many built in advantages (primarily, rich recruiting base).
Yes. They basically have a small country to recruit out of. Arkansas will get the best of the rest. And I don't mean that as a flame.
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Posted on 12/28/12 at 4:04 pm to cas4t
Top 15 is getting the best of the rest?
We haven't had shite for recruiters in several decades. Yet under Petrino we still hovered around 25
Bielema already has a staff far better than Petrino's, even just in recruiting. We're going to have far better classes
We haven't had shite for recruiters in several decades. Yet under Petrino we still hovered around 25
Bielema already has a staff far better than Petrino's, even just in recruiting. We're going to have far better classes
Posted on 12/28/12 at 4:05 pm to bamasgot13
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Not reading 17 pages. I'll say that A&M will have the better program the next 25 years. Too many built in advantages (primarily, rich recruiting base).
They've had these same advantages for the past 100 years and have done shite with them.
UCLA, CAL, USF, FIU, FAU, UCF, Tulane, TCU, SMU, Baylor, TTU, etc are all also located in rich recruiting grounds...
Posted on 12/28/12 at 4:05 pm to DaleDenton
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Yes, because SAU, Tech, PB, Hendrix, UCA, Henderson, and Lyons create so much instate competition for us.
Yes, because the state of Arkansas has so many 5 stars running around.
You honestly trying to compare Texas and Louisiana HS football to Arkansas?
Posted on 12/28/12 at 4:06 pm to DaleDenton
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They've had these same advantages for the past 100 years and have done shite with them.
They are in the SEC now and out of the Texas shadow. If you can't see how joining the most powerful conference in the country will help their recruiting then IDK what to tell you.
Posted on 12/28/12 at 4:07 pm to cas4t
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They are in the SEC now and out of the Texas shadow. If you can't see how joining the most powerful conference in the country will help their recruiting then IDK what to tell you.
So Tulane and SMU joining a BCS conference means they return to their glory years?
Posted on 12/28/12 at 4:08 pm to Gladius Veritas
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Top 15 is getting the best of the rest?
Top 15? Yall are like #48 right now or some shite, right? Where are you pulling this number from?
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We haven't had shite for recruiters in several decades. Yet under Petrino we still hovered around 25
He gone, brah.
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Bielema already has a staff far better than Petrino's, even just in recruiting. We're going to have far better classes
It hasn't shown as of yet. And yall certainly won't be getting much fro Texas with aTm and LSU recruiting heavily there. And good luck anywhere else because Alabama just picks and chooses. And you won't dominate Louisiana either.
The best of the rest.
Posted on 12/28/12 at 4:09 pm to Gladius Veritas
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Top 15 is getting the best of the rest?
When you are Wisconsin? nope. it's a very solid class. When you are Arky? Yes. It is best of the rest. #15 in recruiting at Arky means you likely have the 8th best class in the conference and the 5th best in the West (behind Bama, LSU, A&M, and AU).
Posted on 12/28/12 at 4:10 pm to DaleDenton
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So Tulane and SMU joining a BCS conference means they return to their glory years?
I'm sorry, did I say BCS conference? I could have sworn I said the SOUTHEASTERN CONFERENCE.
Posted on 12/28/12 at 4:11 pm to bamasgot13
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When you are Wisconsin? nope. it's a very solid class. When you are Arky? Yes. It is best of the rest. #15 in recruiting at Arky means you likely have the 8th best class in the conference and the 5th best in the West (behind Bama, LSU, A&M, and AU
This is the truth. I'm not even trying to flame, but yall are acting like BB is some recruiting God. It's not gonna happen.
Posted on 12/28/12 at 4:12 pm to cas4t
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Top 15? Yall are like #48 right now or some shite, right? Where are you pulling this number from?
I'm not talking about this year. I'm just saying that we've hovered around 25 with terrible recruiters, so I expect it to go up
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He gone, brah.
Yeah, so I expect our recruiting to get better
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It hasn't shown as of yet
...... It's been 3 weeks and he doesn't even have all of the staff in place
Posted on 12/28/12 at 4:12 pm to cas4t
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I'm sorry, did I say BCS conference? I could have sworn I said the SOUTHEASTERN CONFERENCE.
You are saying that getting exposure from a conference change means a bump in performance, so Tulane and SMU should be expecting the same.
This means LSU will have instate competition and finally stepping out of LSU's shadow.
Fact is Texas will still take who they want leaving the scraps for aggy. Kids grow up in Texas wanting to play for Texas.
Posted on 12/28/12 at 4:12 pm to cas4t
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This is the truth. I'm not even trying to flame, but yall are acting like BB is some recruiting God. It's not gonna happen.
His staff is certainly better at recruiting than anything we've had since the Broyles era
Posted on 12/28/12 at 4:16 pm to DaleDenton
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You are saying that getting exposure from a conference change means a bump in performance, so Tulane and SMU should be expecting the same.
No, that's not what I'm saying at all actually. I'm saying that kids in the SEC go to the NFL, and a lot get drafted very high. Especially defense. Not to mention kids want to win NC's. The SEC gets a ton of exposure. So by joining the SEC, your recruiting will immediately change. Especially when you go 10-2 and beat the soon-to-be national champs in your first year.
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This means LSU will have instate competition and finally stepping out of LSU's shadow.
No, it doesn't. IF Tulane had joined the SEC, then yes, it would certainly help their case. But not the same as it helps aTm, because they have a small country to recruit out of.
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Fact is Texas will still take who they want leaving the scraps for aggy.
CSB.
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Kids grow up in Texas wanting to play for Texas.
Explain Texas' drop off and aTm's rise then
This post was edited on 12/28/12 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 12/28/12 at 4:22 pm to cas4t
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Explain Texas' drop off and aTm's rise then
bad coaching vs mediocre coaching.
Posted on 12/28/12 at 4:23 pm to cas4t
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No, that's not what I'm saying at all actually. I'm saying that kids in the SEC go to the NFL, and a lot get drafted very high. Especially defense. Not to mention kids want to win NC's. The SEC gets a ton of exposure. So by joining the SEC, your recruiting will immediately change. Especially when you go 10-2 and beat the soon-to-be national champs in your first year.
The NFL drafts kids from all conferences and all levels, they don't give a shite where you go to school if you are good enough to play for you they draft you.
The big10 is said to be a weak conference full of weak schools, but they still send a shite ton of players to the NFL.
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No, it doesn't. IF Tulane had joined the SEC, then yes, it would certainly help their case. But not the same as it helps aTm, because they have a small country to recruit out of.
LSU now has two BCS schools in their state.
Everyone recruits Texas, there isn't any advantage for aggy than their is for any other SEC school now that the SEC has a television footprint in Texas, before this was hindrance as the Big12 had the market cornered in Texas as far as recruits families being able to watch the recruits play on a weekly basis, Texas and the big12 schools still have the advantage of the recruits families being able to realistically see them play IRL on a weekly basis.
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Explain Texas' drop off and aTm's rise then
Aggy have one good year, Auburn had one in 2010, look at them now. Texas' drop off is due to coaching more than anything, because after all according to your recruiting argument there is no reason for them to have suffered a drop off because they get the Texas recruits they want.
Posted on 12/28/12 at 4:27 pm to DaleDenton
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Dale Denton
Thx for setting us straight. We are destined to suck. Hope we can keep the "sliver" of east TX...
Posted on 12/28/12 at 4:28 pm to TeLeFaWx
After 18 pages I have concluded that Aggies are screeeeewed and should move to the Big East.
Posted on 12/28/12 at 4:28 pm to AginAL
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Thx for setting us straight. We are destined to suck. Hope we can keep the "sliver" of east TX...
At least you learned your place
Posted on 12/28/12 at 4:38 pm to DaleDenton
so, I want to make sure that I'm clear on this. You honestly think that Texas A&M joining the SEC will have little to no bearing on their recruiting?
so being in the SEC is no different to a recruit than any other BCS conference?
And if the SEC is such a non factor in recruiting, then what exactly is so appealing about going to Arkansas to recruits?
so being in the SEC is no different to a recruit than any other BCS conference?
And if the SEC is such a non factor in recruiting, then what exactly is so appealing about going to Arkansas to recruits?
This post was edited on 12/28/12 at 4:39 pm
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