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re: Which 5 teams have the most to prove?
Posted on 7/7/24 at 12:59 pm to 3down10
Posted on 7/7/24 at 12:59 pm to 3down10
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Was it your ST that allowed the 42 yard TD pass as well on that drive?
Considering the discussion ideas about their rb’s production impact on scores, you are helping me make my point by bringing up their qb passing after a major ST mistake gave AU the ball back after we forced a punt.
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 1:06 pm to 3down10
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Are those 20 yards what allowed Auburn to drive the 34 yards needed for a TD in 2 plays.
Now you are arguing against yourself when you made a post about yards winning games.
Of course when we have a real example of a major field position change, yards suddenly mean nothing.
Posted on 7/7/24 at 2:35 pm to 3down10
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very team has something to prove every year because what they did the previous year was the previous years team, not the current years team.
While true, the question is what teams have "the most" to prove.
UGA is a team with less to prove than nearly every other team in college football. We have a proven coach who's won 2 of the last 3 national titles. We've been top 3 in recruiting the last 3 seasons so it's not like there's an drop off in talent incoming this year. We return a starting QB who was #3 in the nation in passing yards last year and is #1 among returning QB's. UGA returns 14 starters which is more than any season in the last 3 years. This includes 4/5ths of the OL which is a big deal and doesn't include transfers like Colbie Young or Travis Ettienne or London Humphries who started or were effectively co-starters for other teams last season.
While every team has something to prove, UGA has LESS to prove than nearly every other team in college football (possible exception being Michigan, but they have a new coach so I tend to think they have more to prove as well).
Posted on 7/7/24 at 2:47 pm to DawginSC
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While true, the question is what teams have "the most" to prove.
UGA is a team with less to prove than nearly every other team in college football. We have a proven coach who's won 2 of the last 3 national titles. We've been top 3 in recruiting the last 3 seasons so it's not like there's an drop off in talent incoming this year. We return a starting QB who was #3 in the nation in passing yards last year and is #1 among returning QB's. UGA returns 14 starters which is more than any season in the last 3 years. This includes 4/5ths of the OL which is a big deal and doesn't include transfers like Colbie Young or Travis Ettienne or London Humphries who started or were effectively co-starters for other teams last season.
While every team has something to prove, UGA has LESS to prove than nearly every other team in college football (possible exception being Michigan, but they have a new coach so I tend to think they have more to prove as well).
Seems to me the teams with the most to prove are the teams that want to accomplish the most.
And everything else is just stupid ESPN type bullshite.
Posted on 7/7/24 at 2:55 pm to djsdawg
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Considering the discussion ideas about their rb’s production impact on scores, you are helping me make my point by bringing up their qb passing after a major ST mistake gave AU the ball back after we forced a punt.
Because that's how football works dipshit.
When a RB rushes for 69 yards on the opponents first 3 drives the defenses will adjust to the try and stop the run. This often times opens up the passing game.
You don't know shite about football. Just shut the frick up.
This post was edited on 7/7/24 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 7/7/24 at 3:01 pm to DawginSC
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UGA is a team with less to prove than nearly every other team in college football. We have a proven coach who's won 2 of the last 3 national titles.
Doesn't mean shite.
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We've been top 3 in recruiting the last 3 seasons so it's not like there's an drop off in talent incoming this year.
Doesn't mean shite.
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We return a starting QB who was #3 in the nation in passing yards last year and is #1 among returning QB's.
Doesn't mean shite
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UGA returns 14 starters which is more than any season in the last 3 years.
Doesn't mean shite
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This includes 4/5ths of the OL which is a big deal and doesn't include transfers like Colbie Young or Travis Ettienne or London Humphries who started or were effectively co-starters for other teams last season.
Doesn't mean shite
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While every team has something to prove, UGA has LESS to prove than nearly every other team in college football (possible exception being Michigan, but they have a new coach so I tend to think they have more to prove as well).
If you have less to prove then you can count on missing the playoffs yet again this year. The only thing that matters is what you do from Game 1 until the end.
But I would love nothing more than for Georgia fans and players to believe this shite. Personally, I hope Alabama players think they have the most to prove, because they do.
Posted on 7/7/24 at 3:06 pm to 3down10
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If you have less to prove then you can count on missing the playoffs yet again this year.
UGA had less to prove than any team in college football coming in to the 2022 season. They won the national title that year.
I'm not actually taking the field for UGA. My motivation level has no impact on how UGA performs.
The reality is UGA is as proven or more proven than any other team in college football coming into this season.
The point of this thread is "which 5 teams have the most to prove". The correct answer does not have UGA in that 5.
Will Kirby Smart have UGA feeling like they're disrespected and have something to prove to the nation? Probably. He's pretty darn good at that sort of motivation. Just like in previous years, UGA will be favored in games and talking about how "everyone thinks we're going to lose".
But anyone looking at UGA objectively views them as one of the most proven teams in college football coming into this year if not the MOST proven.
And that's what this thread is about. Not how the coach motivates the team.
This post was edited on 7/7/24 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 7/7/24 at 3:13 pm to DawginSC
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UGA had less to prove than any team in college football coming in to the 2022 season. They won the national title that year.
I'm not actually taking the field for UGA. My motivation level has no impact on how UGA performs.
The reality is UGA is as proven or more proven than any other team in college football coming into this season.
The point of this thread is "which 5 teams have the most to prove". The correct answer does not have UGA in that 5.
Will Kirby Smart have UGA feeling like they're disrespected and have something to prove to the nation? Probably. He's pretty darn good at that sort of motivation. Just like in previous years, UGA will be favored in games and talking about how "everyone thinks we're going to lose".
But anyone looking at UGA objectively views them as one of the most proven teams in college football coming into this year if not the MOST proven.
And that's what this thread is about. Not how the coach motivates the team.
You didn't even make the playoffs last year, and you are living on accomplishments from 2+ years ago.
Of which mean absolutely nothing when the playoff rankings come out this year.
Kirby Smart has a 17% win rate against Alabama.
Posted on 7/7/24 at 3:16 pm to 3down10
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Auburn scored 9 points on 3 straight drives to start the game, while Georgia only managed 10 points until the 4th quarter.
This part of the discussion is about the UGA D vs the AU O because you said the UGA D didn't stop the AU O at any point in the game, so lets see what really happened.....
UGA D forced 4 AU punts on the next 4 drives. 4 drives in a row. 4 punts in a row. To any reasonable football fan, that is considered 4 stops.
Conclusion: you were wrong on this point.
Posted on 7/7/24 at 3:26 pm to 3down10
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So now a losing team giving up points in garbage time is about momentum?
Why is this so hard for you?
The wave of momentum (off of numerous, subsequent ST errors) is what LED to garbage time.
It’s not about garbage time itself. You were wrong about that.
Posted on 7/7/24 at 3:42 pm to 3down10
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You didn't even make the playoffs last year, and you are living on accomplishments from 2+ years ago.
UGA finished ahead of Bama in the polls last year. The top ranked SEC team. Neither won the playoffs (or a playoff game).
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Of which mean absolutely nothing when the playoff rankings come out this year.
UGA would have made the playoff if a 12 team playoff had been in existence every season Kirby Smart has been at UGA other than his first.
UGA fans aren't really concerned about it. We pretty much expect it to happen. If it doesn't it will be a huge disappointment (and a surprise to nearly everyone who follows college football). Again, htat goes to the "prove it" part of this thread. UGA HAS proven it. That's why a playoff berth is assumed for UGA. They have to prove they're NOT at least that good rather than the other way around because of their past results.
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Kirby Smart has a 17% win rate against Alabama.
Yep. And he's he's 50/50 against Bama in playoff games, with the one loss coming in OT in Kirby Smart's second year as a head coach with a team mostly led by Mark Richt recruits rather than his own.
Overall, Kirby Smart is 5-1 in playoff games. Again... that 1 loss comes with his second least talented team while at UGA in the national championship game in OT.
He's a pretty good playoff coach. His big issue has been making the playoff due to the fact the greatest college football coach of all time happened to be in his conference.
That coach is gone... and it's much easier to make the playoff now.
Look, UGA's in the position where they have to "prove" to people who follow the sport that they're not a top 5 team. They're assumed to one of the best teams because they are "proven" to be that.
Not many teams are in that position. None of those who are have "the most to prove" in college football.
This post was edited on 7/7/24 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 7/7/24 at 3:59 pm to DawginSC
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UGA finished ahead of Bama in the polls last year. The top ranked SEC team. Neither won the playoffs (or a playoff game).
The only poll that matters is the final playoff poll. You didn't play for a national championship, you didn't win a SEC championship either.
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UGA would have made the playoff if a 12 team playoff had been in existence every season Kirby Smart has been at UGA other than his first.
But it didn't exist. So not only are you living on accomplishments from 2+ years ago, you're now relying on ones that don't even exist?
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Yep. And he's he's 50/50 against Bama in playoff games, with the one loss coming in OT in Kirby Smart's second year as a head coach with a team mostly led by Mark Richt recruits rather than his own.
Overall, Kirby Smart is 5-1 in playoff games. Again... that 1 loss comes with his second least talented team while at UGA in the national championship game in OT.
He's a pretty good playoff coach. His big issue has been making the playoff due to the fact the greatest college football coach of all time happened to be in his conference.
That coach is gone... and it's much easier to make the playoff now.
17% against Alabama. The "50/50" in the playoff is the ONE win for Georgia.
Everything Saban built is still there, and Georgia is still the copy. Kirby did a good job and learned from the best, but you're still in the kit car.
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Look, UGA's in the position where they have to "prove" to people who follow the sport that they're not a top 5 team. They're assumed to one of the best teams because they are "proven" to be that.
Not many teams are in that position. None of those who are have "the most to prove" in college football.
Same shite Georgia fans were saying last year. Sat at home watching Alabama and Alabama's new coach in the playoffs.
How much did all that bullshite you keep citing mean then?
Posted on 7/7/24 at 4:03 pm to djsdawg
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Why is this so hard for you?
The wave of momentum (off of numerous, subsequent ST errors) is what LED to garbage time.
It’s not about garbage time itself. You were wrong about that.
The concept of momentum is generally bullshite for starters. While you can do things like not allowing substitutions and such, the notion that your team is somehow magically better because of this "momentum" is just bullshite.
What happens is a team will find something to exploit, they get a team off balance, or whatever and they use that as long as they can and until the other team adjusts. Which is no different than to say Auburn's offense pretty much did whatever they wanted to the Georgia defense in that game.
There is no "momentum genie" sitting around trying to figure out which side he wants to give an advantage to.
And in the end it's nothing but a loser excuse from the retard who doesn't know shite about football.
Posted on 7/7/24 at 4:10 pm to djsdawg
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This part of the discussion is about the UGA D vs the AU O because you said the UGA D didn't stop the AU O at any point in the game, so lets see what really happened.....
UGA D forced 4 AU punts on the next 4 drives. 4 drives in a row. 4 punts in a row. To any reasonable football fan, that is considered 4 stops.
Conclusion: you were wrong on this point.
Of course what you are leaving out is the part where your team wasn't disciplined enough on a simple punt return, you got a personal foul and Auburn scored on it's 2nd drive of those 4.
Let me explain how the "stop" works. You need 4 consecutive plays without a drive extending penalty, not just 3.
What I see is that your defense adjusted to the run, which then opened up the pass. As after the Georgia penalty that extended the 2nd drive you mention, Auburn threw 3 straight completed passes, including one for a 42 yard TD pass.
Maybe if you quit pretending anything that happened after your own penalty didn't exist you'd quit saying stupid shite. Your teams mistake doesn't somehow make the rest of the drive meaningless.
This post was edited on 7/7/24 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 7/7/24 at 5:37 pm to 3down10
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Because that's how football works dipshit.
When a RB rushes for 69 yards on the opponents first 3 drives the defenses will adjust to the try and stop the run. This often times opens up the passing game.
That is how it CAN work, but that doesn't prove that's how it worked in this moment of this game, so you got a lot more work to do to if you want to prove your point. As of now, all you have is another unproven assumption.
I doubt major changes in strategy occurred that early in the game as you ASSUME. Sometimes control can be gained without really any adjustment, or with only a minor adjustment, which wouldn't be enough to suddenly open up a passing game.
This post was edited on 7/7/24 at 7:41 pm
Posted on 7/7/24 at 6:45 pm to Darindawg
Alabama is 36-6 in the regular season and 21-3 in the conference for the past 3 seasons. I'm not sure you understand just how difficult it is to win in the SEC.
I do agree that Bama has something to prove this year, but who doesn't.
I do agree that Bama has something to prove this year, but who doesn't.
Posted on 7/7/24 at 8:53 pm to Foots51
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I'm not sure you understand just how difficult it is to win in the SEC.
Anyone who has been in the sec understands it
Posted on 7/8/24 at 7:35 am to DawgsLife
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It just seem surreal that so many Alabama fans down voted my post because i said we had won 2 of the last 3 titles.
The OP specifically mentioned the SEC. UGA has won the SEC Championship 2 times in the last 15 years.
Posted on 7/8/24 at 7:39 am to TideTurf
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Alabama-that nothing changes and DeBoer keeps the dynasty rolling?
You have one NC in the last 6 years. The dynasty ended a while ago.
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