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When did the SEC start this decline? Is it really Saban’s fault?
Posted on 10/29/17 at 7:32 pm
Posted on 10/29/17 at 7:32 pm
Obviously some solid coaches lost their jobs because they couldn’t keep up with Saban. By my count, 4 national championship-winning coaches are gone as a direct result of Saban. 1. Fulmer 2. Miles 3. Meyer 4. Chizik
All of those coaches were replaced with questionable hires.
I was headed down a different path when I started this thread, but I now believe Saban is probably the main contributor to the SEC’s decline...60% Saban & 40% clueless ADs.
All of those coaches were replaced with questionable hires.
I was headed down a different path when I started this thread, but I now believe Saban is probably the main contributor to the SEC’s decline...60% Saban & 40% clueless ADs.
This post was edited on 10/29/17 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 10/29/17 at 7:33 pm to Eli Goldfinger
It's Saban fault in the sense of how other schools reacted
Lets not underrate hoe many Saban tree folks are involved
So two fold his greatness hurt them
And his assistants shitness hurt them
Lets not underrate hoe many Saban tree folks are involved
So two fold his greatness hurt them
And his assistants shitness hurt them
This post was edited on 10/29/17 at 7:35 pm
Posted on 10/29/17 at 7:35 pm to thelawnwranglers
Yep. Other schools became jelaous of Saban's success and looked to make the next big hire that would beat Saban. And now, you have a conference with coordinators and unproven coaches with alotta people going down in flames at their schools again
Posted on 10/29/17 at 7:35 pm to thelawnwranglers
Right...instead of seeing Bama’s dynasty as an anomaly, they thought their team(s) could also be a dynasty.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 7:39 pm to Eli Goldfinger
For Alabama to have gotten as big as it did it means their rivals didn't show up and do their jobs when it mattered. I put the blame squarely on Auburn, Tennessee, and LSU.
The Arkansas LSU game is a coin toss because we always show up.
The Arkansas LSU game is a coin toss because we always show up.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 7:59 pm to hogNsinceReagan
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The Arkansas LSU game is a coin toss because we always show up.
What?
Posted on 10/29/17 at 8:00 pm to Eli Goldfinger
"Your team is the greatest, lock for Atlanta, Undefeated forever" -Rat Poison
Posted on 10/29/17 at 8:00 pm to Eli Goldfinger
There really is no secret to what caused the decline and why it happened. Ultimately government employees lacking the basic skills for hiring employees. The formula for hiring good employees is really no secret:
1) Hiring a coach with the same goals/values as the AD/administration.
2)Extending trust instead of micromanaging.
3)Clear expectations.
4)Accountability - Response to mistakes
5)Competency
And ultimately 6) delivering results. When you violate 4 out of 5 in your hire, you should not be surprised when the coach doesn't deliver results.
1) Hiring a coach with the same goals/values as the AD/administration.
2)Extending trust instead of micromanaging.
3)Clear expectations.
4)Accountability - Response to mistakes
5)Competency
And ultimately 6) delivering results. When you violate 4 out of 5 in your hire, you should not be surprised when the coach doesn't deliver results.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 8:04 pm to ceretonia
The SEC lost Meyers, Petrino, Spurrier, Nutt(Arkansas) and Miles declined.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 8:11 pm to lsurapper
Losing James Franklin was bad too.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 8:18 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Chizik's firing had nothing to do with Saban. Chizik was fired for going 0-8 in the SEC. He would have been fired right after the IB even if he somehow managed to win that game.
For whatever reason he decided after year 3 that he wanted a pro-style offense without realizing that he didn't have the players to run a pro-style offense. Malzhan came back the next year and took us to the NC game.
Chiz hired Scot Loeffler. That guy is terrible. He cost Chizik his job then went to VT and ended Beamer's career. Then somehow this week he beat the shite out of Charles Kelly's defense with all 2-star players.
For whatever reason he decided after year 3 that he wanted a pro-style offense without realizing that he didn't have the players to run a pro-style offense. Malzhan came back the next year and took us to the NC game.
Chiz hired Scot Loeffler. That guy is terrible. He cost Chizik his job then went to VT and ended Beamer's career. Then somehow this week he beat the shite out of Charles Kelly's defense with all 2-star players.
This post was edited on 10/29/17 at 8:21 pm
Posted on 10/29/17 at 8:39 pm to Eli Goldfinger
I think it's a mixture of a few things
1) Saban is the best college coach in history
2) Not many national championship quality coaches
3) alot of bad hires
1) Saban is the best college coach in history
2) Not many national championship quality coaches
3) alot of bad hires
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