re: When Bama's best two players received improper benefits

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I just think it's apples and oranges.

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No, it's not apples and oranges. Julio and Ingram broke the same exact by law that Bammers claim Cam broke.

The by law states if you receive an improper benefit, like Julio and Mark did, you should be permantly ineligible.

Bama fans have been using this by law as proof of why Cam should've been ruled ineligible.

Now that I point out Mark and Julio broke the SAME by law, all of a sudden Bammers ar trying to make the argument as to why they shouldn't have been ineligible.

So the bottom line according to Bammers, when AU breaks the by law, Cam should permantly be ineligible, but when Bama players broke the same by law, they shouldnt be ineligible permantly.

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"14.11.1 Obligation of Member Institution to Withhold Student-Athlete from Competition.

If a student-athlete is ineligible under the provisions of the constitution, bylaws or other regulations of the Association, the institution shall be obligated to apply immediately the applicable rule and to withhold the student-athlete from all intercollegiate competition. The institution may appeal to the Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement for restoration of the student-athlete¡¦s eligibility as provided in Bylaw 14.12 if it concludes that the circumstances warrant restoration."

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Alabama self reported and declared Ingram and Jones immediately.

Auburn knew about all of this since January, correct?

But AU did not do anything to clear this up until ESPN and other media outlets got the whole story and forced Cecil to fess up.

Next, the SEC bylaw that is now being debated, is 14.01.3.2. That bylaw is entitled "FINANCIAL AID". That title has been left out of most of the discussions.

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14.01.3.2 Financial Aid. If at any time before or after matriculation in a member institution a student-athlete or
any member of his/her family receives or agrees to receive, directly or indirectly, any aid or assistance beyond or in
addition to that permitted by the Bylaws of this Conference (except such aid or assistance as such student-athlete
may receive from those persons on whom the student is naturally or legally dependent for support), such studentathlete
shall be ineligible for competition in any intercollegiate sport within the Conference for the remainder of
his/her college career.

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What is "aid or assistance" according to the SEC?

The NCAA differentiates between cash or aid and extra benefits.

I have never, ever said that Cam is ineligible right now. I have stated that the NCAA investigated and ruled on Ingram and Jones and reinstated them. According to the NCAA, that concluded the investigation.

That is what is different from the Cam Newton situation.

According to the NCAA, it is not finished just because Cam was ruled eligible right now-

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The NCAA's enforcement staff also has been involved in the probe, and that is a separate process from eligibility reinstatement. "Anything related to the institution is dealt with by the enforcement process," said Tom Hosty, a director of enforcement for the NCAA.

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That was not the case with Ingram and Jones.

I have never, ever said that Cam should be ruled ineligible based on the set of facts as we have been told.

What I have said is that the whole story is unknown and that this is not over, as stated by the NCAA.

Do I believe Cam is dirty and knew about it? Yes.

Do I believe someone associated with AU did something dirty? Yes.

Has it been proven yet? No.

Mark and Julio were reinstated with no further investigation.

Can you AU fans say the same about Cam?

I got my hands on the Letter to the NCAA from MSU

what you are about to see is for SEC Rant eyes only

Julio and Mark's case isn't even the same as Cam's.

Cam and his dad allegedly solicited Cam.

Julio and Mark got extra benefits from an AU booster. however, they were able to pay it back after they were declared ineligible, then reinstated.

Its the solicitation that should cause him to be ineligible. Julio and Mark did not sell themselves. thats the difference.

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keep deflecting, douchebags

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Pot meet kettle.

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Julio and Mark's case isn't even the same as Cam's.

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Exactly, Julio and Ingram received benefits, Cam did not.

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Exactly, Julio and Ingram received benefits, Cam did not.

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wow you must have not read the whole post.

Cam was SOLICITED which is said to make a player ineligible because it violates amateur status which makes his situation different than Julio and Mark's. just making a point.