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Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:41 pm to Murph4HOF
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a combination of both.
It is. He overachieved in recruiting, considering Notre Dame's higher academic standards for incoming athletes, which put him at a disadvantage. And he did an even better job of developing those players that he brought to the school. Looking forward to seeing how many LSU players he sends to the league. Exciting time for LSU!
This post was edited on 12/14/22 at 10:44 pm
Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:42 pm to jonnyanony
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Honest to God could flip a coin here.
Orgegon won something though so he gets the nod
Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:42 pm to SidewalkTiger
quote:He had a losing record vs. teams (in the top 10 of NFL talent) which ND had more NFL talent.
In most cases, they were quite a bit more talented than his teams.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:44 pm to jonnyanony
He’s available
Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:44 pm to TigerinKorea
I know you don't like it but
One of them has won something. One of them won a Mac championship game against Ohio like twenty years ago.
I appreciate your optimism, but I'm a stickler for what people actually accomplish.
One of them has won something. One of them won a Mac championship game against Ohio like twenty years ago.
I appreciate your optimism, but I'm a stickler for what people actually accomplish.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:44 pm to Murph4HOF
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He had a losing record vs. teams (in the top 10 of NFL talent) which ND had more NFL talent.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:44 pm to Sun God
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He’s available
Maybe y'all should take him back
Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:45 pm to jonnyanony
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I appreciate your optimism, but I'm a stickler for what people actually accomplish.
You must hate all of Florida's hires then.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:46 pm to SidewalkTiger
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You must hate all of Florida's hires then
Not hugely into a lot of them, no.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:47 pm to jonnyanony
Why?
Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:48 pm to Murph4HOF
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I want to hear Kelly's Florida accent.
Well, he’s a yankee. He already has one
Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:50 pm to jonnyanony
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I appreciate your optimism, but I'm a stickler for what people actually accomplish.
And we all appreciate how fondly you think of Ed Orgeron.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:50 pm to Sun God
The only candidate I was excited about was Meyer, because he was young and had proven success as a HC.
Next was champ, but just because he was a great DC
Next is Napier, because again young and has success where success is rare
Mullen was a max 10 win guy in my eye
McElwain seemed like an idiot from the start
Kelly is what he's been for decades. Very Mullen esque in my opinion. Hell get you good records and lose A&M type games every year
Next was champ, but just because he was a great DC
Next is Napier, because again young and has success where success is rare
Mullen was a max 10 win guy in my eye
McElwain seemed like an idiot from the start
Kelly is what he's been for decades. Very Mullen esque in my opinion. Hell get you good records and lose A&M type games every year
Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:51 pm to TigerinKorea
quote:We don't know. The recruiting services miss as often if not more than the NFL does.
It is
Not to mention you're still dealing with 17-22 year old kids that are officially "amateurs" yet have a lot of pressure on them to succeed for the sake of their families. IIRC, Julio Jones was a witness in a murder trail his senior year of high school. Some blue-chip recruit not working out for a program might not be a reflection on the coach at all but more indicative of the kid's home environment.
In that regard, ND's academic requirements might actually be a good thing. It keeps the kids around actually doing their school work instead of getting into trouble back home.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:51 pm to jonnyanony
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Hell get you good records and lose A&M type games every year
This is every head coach.
You seem to have unrealistic expectations.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:52 pm to jonnyanony
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has success where success is rare
Define success. Like Brian Kelly level success or Justin Fuente success?
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Hell get you good records and lose A&M type games every year
So basically maybe 2 active coaches exceed this
This post was edited on 12/14/22 at 10:54 pm
Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:53 pm to jonnyanony
At this point, anybody who'd willingly choose Ed Orgeron to preside over their program over Brian Kelly is simply being stubborn and ridiculous.
The bigger question is who would you rather have, Billy or Ed?
The bigger question is who would you rather have, Billy or Ed?
Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:54 pm to SidewalkTiger
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You seem to have unrealistic expectations
Like LSU, we've won national titles in the past fifteen years.
That's the expectation. To win a national title.
That may not be Billy Napier. It definitely isn't Brian Kelly
Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:54 pm to SidewalkTiger
quote:Top ten schools with players on 2021 NFL Rosters:
Alabama - 53
Ohio State - 47
LSU - 46
Georgia - 35
Notre Dame - 34
Clemson - 33
Iowa - 33
Florida - 32
Michigan - 32
Oklahoma - 31
Penn State - 31
Brian Kelly's record vs. these teams before this season:
Alabama - 0-2
Ohio St - 0-1
LSU - 2-0
Georgia - 0-2
Clemson - 1-3
Michigan - 3-4
Oklahoma - 1-1
DNP: Iowa, Florida, Penn State
Total record: 7-13 (.350 winning percentage)
Record vs. teams with fewer players on NFL rosters: 5-8 (.385 winning percentage)
Record vs. teams with more players on NFL rosters: 2-5 (.285 winning percentage; all wins vs. LSU)
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