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re: What is Alabama Hiding????

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Posted by Bellabama
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Posted on 2/8/11 at 10:03 am to
I thought you would appreciate that...
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 2/8/11 at 10:03 am to
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Even though you had a higher percentage of black players graduate than, say, Arkansas, the gap at Arkansas was only 34%.


So Au has a higher grad rate for white and black players but for some reason AU has some black cloud over it?
Posted by ron4bamam
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Posted on 2/8/11 at 10:04 am to
skarbinsk is a fartbalm want a be. he just do the research that fartbalm does. i quit buying the paper when i broke out the local section and it was only 4 pages and it had the weather and obits.lol
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Posted on 2/8/11 at 10:05 am to
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fartbalm
Clever.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 2/8/11 at 10:05 am to
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I've not changed anything.


On page 9 you were talking about grad rates. On page 11 you were talking about disparigy
Posted by Bellabama
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Posted on 2/8/11 at 10:07 am to
Disparigy?
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 2/8/11 at 10:08 am to
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On page 9 you were talking about grad rates. On page 11 you were talking about disparigy


I think I'm fully realizing your inability to comprehend subject matter in this thread, especially the graduation aspects.
Posted by bama my heart
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Posted on 2/8/11 at 10:08 am to
As long as this is legal, I really don't care how it is handled. This is Coach Saban's job and he is paid heavly to do his job. Auburn is the last school that should be talking about anyone taking advantage of a loophole in the rules. If it's wrong, then make it a rule, and until that time shut up about it. Student athletes are supposed to be treated just like any other student on scholarship with no special treatment. If a student has an academic scholarship and he doesn't make his grades he loses that scholarship, and it should be the same with the players. If they don't produce to standard, they could also lose the scholarship. As long as the gray shirt and medical scholarship is valid, then these players are taken care of, and if they don't like it, they are free to go somewhere else. As long as these players are having absolutely no loyalty to the schools, then they are owed none. Coach Saban is taking care of them, and not throwing them out in the cold. They are offered another type of means to get their education, and that is what they are supposed to be here for. Some of these kids need to realize that they need to check their egos at the door, and they just can't handle the fact that they are not as good as they think they are.
There were a big deal in high school, and probably had to put in little effort to be so, but here they have to put in the work for the job.
If they're not willing to do so..........
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Posted on 2/8/11 at 10:11 am to
Yes the fact that my "G" and "T" are next to each other is a testimony to my reading comprehension and not you changing tunes on seperate pages in an endess attempt to flame AU.
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 2/8/11 at 10:12 am to
I'll try to explain things in a manner you'll understand.

Auburn has a propesensitizing of oversignig players. To do so, they slicely move players out that aren't doing performingly to their standardizing. They do this bunches a whole lot more than other schools.
Posted by mre
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Posted on 2/8/11 at 10:12 am to
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So Au has a higher grad rate for white and black players but for some reason AU has some black cloud over it?


Yes. To continue using Arkansas as an example, they should do a better job ensuring that all of their athletes graduate (as should Alabama and many, many other universities). As I stated earlier, you guys are getting excoriated for the discrepancy in the graduation rates of black and white players. How is it that 100% of the white players can graduate but only 49% of the black players? The assumption would be that all student athletes are given access to the same resources (such as tutors, mandatory study halls, etc.), so where does this discrepancy come from and what can be done to fix it? What's working for the white players but not the black players?

And, again, I pointed out that this is certainly unfair, to a certain extent, to Auburn, because if the graduation rate of your white players was lower there would be nothing to talk about.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 2/8/11 at 10:13 am to
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Auburn has a propesensitizing of oversignig players. To do so, they slicely move players out that aren't doing performingly to their standardizing. They do this bunches a whole lot more than other schools.


A practice i applaud!
Posted by crimsonsaint
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Posted on 2/8/11 at 10:14 am to
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Name 1 UA football player that was unwillingly forced to greyshirt.


Daryl Collins


You need to reread the statement. This time, read it slowly, and understand it thoroughly, before responding.

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Name 1 UA football player that was unwillingly forced to greyshirt
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 2/8/11 at 10:14 am to
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And, again, I pointed out that this is certainly unfair, to a certain extent, to Auburn, because if the graduation rate of your white players was lower there would be nothing to talk about.


Maybe we should recruit dumber white players so AU will look better in the eyes of Bama fans.
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 2/8/11 at 10:16 am to
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And, again, I pointed out that this is certainly unfair, to a certain extent, to Auburn, because if the graduation rate of your white players was lower there would be nothing to talk about.




Maybe we should recruit dumber white players so AU will look better


Whoa. So are you now insinuating, that 51% of the black athletes that didn't graduate were now incapable of it and it wasn't that they were all NFL draftees?
Posted by mre
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Posted on 2/8/11 at 10:17 am to
Yes, because that's exactly what I meant.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 2/8/11 at 10:17 am to
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How is it that 100% of the white players can graduate but only 49% of the black players? The assumption would be that all student athletes are given access to the same resources (such as tutors, mandatory study halls, etc.), so where does this discrepancy come from and what can be done to fix it? What's working for the white players but not the black players?


It can easily be assumed taht there are vastly fewer white players than black players on AU's team, thus making a 100% grad rate easier to obtain for that group than it is for teh other group.

This "disparity" argument would hold more water is the number of players where more even.
Posted by mre
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Posted on 2/8/11 at 10:20 am to
Are you suggesting that Auburn has a statistically significantly fewer number of white athletes than other universities similarly situated geographically?
Posted by Bellabama
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Posted on 2/8/11 at 10:20 am to
That argument doesn't hold since we are discussing percentages, and not hard numbers.
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