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re: what do u think about it?

Posted on 6/17/11 at 8:26 am to
Posted by DvlsAdvocat
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Posted on 6/17/11 at 8:26 am to
When I watch old games now, I'm disgusted by how far over the top the celebrations were. The game has already changed so much for the better with the sportsmanship rules put in place since the eighties. This is just taking things too far.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 6/17/11 at 8:28 am to
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Terrible rule. The more that gets put in the refs hands as a rule of "judgement" the worse off college football is.


Then probably the smart thing to do is run the football in the end zone (do not find someone to point at or high step or boogie woogie or funky chicken), give the ball to the ref (or drop it to the ground), go to your teammates and celebrate with them.

Not even the most incompetent/crooked ref can or will call it "on the field" when you do that.
Posted by DvlsAdvocat
Your Mom's House, AL
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 6/17/11 at 8:29 am to
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The idea that a subjective call by a ref can negate a touchdown is ludicrous. You think people have been whispering about refs being bought and refs fixing games? Just wait. Just wait until a ref has the power to actually steal a touchdown from a team.


Its absolutely amazing that anyone on the SEC Rant could be in favor of giving power to alter a game like this to the refs. As much as LSU fans whine and bitch about refs EVERY WEEK, they should be heading to the headquarters with pitchforks. They sure will once the season starts.
Posted by beatbammer
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Posted on 6/17/11 at 8:30 am to
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This - it's great to say that you don't like taunting and I agree with you but it should not decide games.



Great point.

And the best way to ensure it does NOT decide games is for the taunting to stop.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 6/17/11 at 8:31 am to
id rather 80s swag then uptight robots and allowing refs to frick teams over.

its far more entertaining to have da u calling ou players bitches and them coming out firing pistols on texas as they rack up 200 yards of penalties than watching people just give the ball to the ref.

sec refs are horrible as it is this is just giving them another tool to frick up games. people cried about uga/lsu in 09 wait till this rule fricks multiple games up. the game is about emotion let them show some.
Posted by beatbammer
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Posted on 6/17/11 at 8:31 am to
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The idea that a subjective call by a ref can negate a touchdown is ludicrous.


They already do.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 6/17/11 at 8:33 am to
this aint the ymca. if you dont want teams to taunt you fricking stop them from scoring or cheap shot them after the taunt.

no need for sec refs to control a fricking game and you are dead wrong if you think a sec ref can handle a judgement call.
Posted by mckibaj
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/17/11 at 8:34 am to
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this aint the ymca. if you dont want teams to taunt you fricking stop them from scoring or cheap shot them after the taunt.

no need for sec refs to control a fricking game and you are dead wrong if you think a sec ref can handle a judgement call.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 6/17/11 at 8:35 am to
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no need for sec refs to control a fricking game and you are dead wrong if you think a sec ref can handle a judgement call.



I'm thinking we should remove those horribly officiated judgement-called penalties like "holding" and "pass interference" then, because the same SEC refs are screwing those up all the time too.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38794 posts
Posted on 6/17/11 at 8:36 am to
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this aint the ymca. if you dont want teams to taunt you fricking stop them from scoring or cheap shot them after the taunt.



Oh, and if you don't want to comport with SPORTSMANSHIP in what is supposed to be a COLLEGIATE sport, go join the fricking WWE, Stone Cold.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 6/17/11 at 8:36 am to
i honestly can see people bitching about da U swag from back in the day but this rule takes out even the smallest celebration. I dont understand how people dont like the emotions in the game.

this isnt the nfl it should be fun and as long as its not way over the top why penalize a team that is having fun.

Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 6/17/11 at 8:39 am to
those are different than celebrations and actually effect plays so you cant get rid of them.

i really could understand this rule if the celebrations were out of control but they really aren't other than uga in 07

most of the celebrations arent even bad sportsmanship.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38794 posts
Posted on 6/17/11 at 8:39 am to
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i honestly can see people bitching about da U swag from back in the day but this rule takes out even the smallest celebration. I dont understand how people dont like the emotions in the game.


I see plenty of celebrations every damn week of the season that don't involve taunting.

Why are you not in favor of sportsmanship? My son played high school varsity ball and if he or his teammates had pulled the kind of shite you seem to love, his arse would have been jerked out of the game so quick he'd get whiplash. And he would have had to do so many sprints to make up for it he'd puke a weeks worth of suppers.
This post was edited on 6/17/11 at 8:40 am
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/17/11 at 8:39 am to
Dumbass rule,taking the fun out of the game,but typical in our liberal society these days,don't want anyone's feelings hurt,frickin pussies...
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/17/11 at 8:39 am to
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I'm thinking we should remove those horribly officiated judgement-called penalties like "holding" and "pass interference" then, because the same SEC refs are screwing those up all the time too.




There's no way to remove judgement calls entirely but that's a weak argument for adding more judgement calls.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/17/11 at 8:39 am to
oh and sportsmanship is a crutch for the big10 to make its self feel better as uf and LSU rape their best team.

swag>>> sportsmanship. its been proven every time.

Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38794 posts
Posted on 6/17/11 at 8:41 am to
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There's no way to remove judgement calls entirely but that's a weak argument for adding more judgement calls.



The incompetence of officiating is just as weak an argument against NOT adding judgement calls.

How about improving the officiating instead of just saying "hey, officials suck so we can't trust them to keep order on the field"?
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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138974 posts
Posted on 6/17/11 at 8:41 am to
because this new rule you are letting sec refs take out any kinda celebration and wipe out scores on something that shouldn't wipe out scores.

im fine with giving them a 15 yard penalty on the xp or kick off but no need to take points off the board for something that didn't alter the out come of a play.

im just not seeing these taunting celebrations that are that bad. other than what uga did in 07
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 6/17/11 at 8:43 am to
well the sec refuses to address the issues of shitty refs. slive and redding go out of their way to protect their refs instead of making them improve.

the sec refuses to even admit when they miss a call so fat chance that the refs get better.

Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38794 posts
Posted on 6/17/11 at 8:45 am to
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im fine with giving them a 15 yard penalty on the xp or kick off but no need to take points off the board for something that didn't alter the out come of a play.


Many holding penalties had they not occurred would have had ZERO effect on the outcome of a scoring play.

Yet they are still called.

They don't review these penalties, determine that they would have had no effect on the play, and allow the score to stand.

They take the score off of the board and step off the penalty.
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