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re: Were the annual AL/AU games played in Birmingham considered neutral
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:10 pm to thirdlawson
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:10 pm to thirdlawson
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"Birmingham was as neutral as Normandy on D-Day..." - Fmr AU Athletic Director
Navid Nousel sure loved his WW2 references...
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:11 pm to allin2010
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INTERESTING FACT: Games played in Tuscaloosa and Auburn, Auburn leads 14-4
First off, Auburn hasnt won 14 games in that time frame, only 12. 1989 1993 1995 1997 2000 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2010.
Secondly, nice skewed stat there. Seeing as how there were FAR more games playing in Auburn than in Tusacaloosa, nobody in the world would consider that a relevant stat.
Try again counting the games played in Birmingham as home games for Bama during that same time period.
comes out to 12-10 in your favor. You still have the edge, but by a VERY small margin and those years included the worst period in Alabama football history. Not an excuse, just proof that Auburn will use anything they can to show how "great" they are. As if rolling Toomer's Corner after barely beating Utah State wasn't proof enough.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:12 pm to bigpapamac
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So an entire TEN years before the neutral site ended? How awful that must have been for you.
Every game I ever played in Birmingham was awful.
Driving to a stadium nestled within a sea of crimson? Yeah... that's insulting. And that's the reason you guys loved it so much and to this day still like to pretend its "neutrality".
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:13 pm to ThaKaptin
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First off, Auburn hasnt won 14 games in that time frame, only 12. 1989 1993 1995 1997 2000 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2010.
He's counting the ones played in the horse and buggy era too.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:13 pm to bigpapamac
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Every year state senators and state congressmen have the ability to buy face value Iron Bowl tickets whether the game is at Auburn or Alabama.
Didn't know this. What a crock of shite.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:13 pm to diddydirtyAubie
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Were the annual AL/AU games played in Birmingham considered neutral
imagine playing in a stadium every year that your opponent used as their home field.
Auburn also used the stadium as a home field as well. I saw Auburn-Ga. Tech at Legion Field, and I also saw Sullivan and Beasley beat Tennessee at Legion Field in 1970. Auburn scaled back their use of Legion Field by their own decision, but for years, they both used it. They even played double headers...one team playing during the day and the other at night.
This post was edited on 10/20/11 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:17 pm to BamaGradinTn
lulz @ an 18 game benchmark spanning two centuries, you street boogs never let me down
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:20 pm to I-59 Tiger
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Were the annual AL/AU games played in Birmingham considered neutral
Auburn seems to forget they played Tennessee there until 1980 sans 1974, Georgia Tech until 1970 and other non-confernce games until the mid 70's.
The fly in the ointment was some individuals or groups were able to purchase what were known as "stadium certificates" sort of like the PSL in the NFL now where they could purchase tickets to any event at Legion Field. As it turned out a lot of those people (in most years) were for Alabama. Other than that the tickets were split. Even with the stadium certificates that amount was negligible maybe 2-3,000 out of 72,000 seats through 1977 and then 78,000 through the last "split" in 1987.
I went to 3 with the 'split' 1979,1981 and 1987. For the life of me I don't recall anyone thinking "wow,this really is an Alabama home game!" In fact, I would venture to say the Auburn people got hold of the "stadium certificates" in 1987 as it seemed like they had more fans.
This is all true. I sat in one of those gold seats under the press box in 1970 and watched Sullivan and Beasley beat Tennessee. My uncle owned them. He was not a politician and was nothing other than a citizen who made the investment and yes, they were for life to any game played there. There were not that many of these seats...maybe five or six rows running the length of the pressbox.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:21 pm to bigpapamac
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Do you know the difference in "state politicians," which is what I said and "City of Birmingham officials and bureaucrats" which is what you said? God I hope so.
Yes, and I know City of Birmingham officials and bureaucrats (i.e. Bama fans) got TONS of tickets at Legion Field and get ZERO tickets at Jordan-Hare Stadium.
And that makes me damned happy.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:24 pm to beatbammer
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Were the annual AL/AU games played in Birmingham considered neutral
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Except for the LARGE allotment of tickets that went to local politicians, friends and family, which were 99% bama fans.
And don't forget the local Birmingham businesses and personalities that owned "franchise" seats.
Guess who owned 99% of those?
Not a word of truth at all in this. The stadium certificates are the seats you are referring to, and any citizen could have bought them. My uncle, as I have already mentioned, owned two, and he was no businessman, noted personality, or politician. Just an ordinary citizen.
Barners yapping about how it "wasn't fair", when they had the same opportunity to buy them. Typical.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:26 pm to pvilleguru
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I think 2010 was the first year auburn beat a decent bama team in Tuscaloosa
Ding ding ding we have a winner! It was actually only the second time AU beat a Bama team in BDS that end the season with 10 wins. The first was the 2002 team. Which was the start of the probation sqads.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:26 pm to beatbammer
Just because you say it isn't fair doesn't mean it actually wasn't
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:28 pm to brodieneedsanol
It was not neutral. As has been mentioned, the schools got their allotment but the Birmingham Parks and Recreation Board controlled a large number of tickets which they were alloted as well.
I was at 3 IBs in LF as a little kid. I would say 60/40 is about right.
It wasn't just the ticket split though. By the early 80's AU did not play any other games at LF and bama played ALL their big games their (BD was a piece of crap and small stadium). Bama was used to the field and comfortable playing there. And even playing on that turf there made a difference. I played a high school game there and it does take some adjustment. The turf there sucked arse and I fell down half a dozen times trying to make cuts in practice before our game. You have to pay attention how you even run on turf until you get used to it.
If you want the truth, look at the actions of the two schools and the results. Bama fought HARD to keep the game there for years. AU fought hard to move it. The AD at bama that agreed to move it got fired.
Then the results speak for themselves. Without the long standing home field advantage, bama started getting their arse handed to them.
I was at 3 IBs in LF as a little kid. I would say 60/40 is about right.
It wasn't just the ticket split though. By the early 80's AU did not play any other games at LF and bama played ALL their big games their (BD was a piece of crap and small stadium). Bama was used to the field and comfortable playing there. And even playing on that turf there made a difference. I played a high school game there and it does take some adjustment. The turf there sucked arse and I fell down half a dozen times trying to make cuts in practice before our game. You have to pay attention how you even run on turf until you get used to it.
If you want the truth, look at the actions of the two schools and the results. Bama fought HARD to keep the game there for years. AU fought hard to move it. The AD at bama that agreed to move it got fired.
Then the results speak for themselves. Without the long standing home field advantage, bama started getting their arse handed to them.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:28 pm to beatbammer
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Were the annual AL/AU games played in Birmingham considered neutral
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The "home field" mantra is pretty much bogus
No, its pretty much accurate.
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AU played some home games there for decades, only ending in the 1980's.
The last non-Iron Bowl game AU played at Legion Field was against Tennessee in 1978.
But the fact remains, as has been amply pointed out, that Auburn used Legion Field as a home field for many games for many years. Did someone in the mayor's office kick Auburn out? No...Auburn stopped playing there because they chose to. If Legion Field ever came to be known more as an Alabama home field instead of an Auburn home field, it is because of Auburn's own decision.
What was the first Auburn game you attended at Legion Field?
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:31 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Then the results speak for themselves. Without the long standing home field advantage, bama started getting their arse handed to them.
Yeah, THAT was it...it wasn't because Bear Bryant was in the ground, and Mike Dubose and Mike Shula were on the sidelines. It was the turf.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:33 pm to DvlsAdvocat
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First off, Auburn hasnt won 14 games in that time frame, only 12. 1989 1993 1995 1997 2000 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2010
He's counting the ones played in the horse and buggy era too.
Well the game was played in Ttown, so why would they not count? 1895 and 1901, I believe.
The count in Auburn And Tuscaloosa is 14-4, which should tell everyone why Auburn wanted the games out of Bham. We we're right and Bama fans agree, now some Bammers will never agree.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:35 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Were the annual AL/AU games played in Birmingham considered neutral
It was not neutral. As has been mentioned, the schools got their allotment but the Birmingham Parks and Recreation Board controlled a large number of tickets which they were alloted as well.
I was at 3 IBs in LF as a little kid. I would say 60/40 is about right.
It wasn't just the ticket split though. By the early 80's AU did not play any other games at LF and bama played ALL their big games their (BD was a piece of crap and small stadium). Bama was used to the field and comfortable playing there. And even playing on that turf there made a difference. I played a high school game there and it does take some adjustment. The turf there sucked arse and I fell down half a dozen times trying to make cuts in practice before our game. You have to pay attention how you even run on turf until you get used to it.
If you want the truth, look at the actions of the two schools and the results. Bama fought HARD to keep the game there for years. AU fought hard to move it. The AD at bama that agreed to move it got fired.
Then the results speak for themselves. Without the long standing home field advantage, bama started getting their arse handed to them.
Some of you guys act like a 60-40 split was some sort of Bama conspiracy with Birmingham officals. You guys crack me up. The reality is that during many years, Auburn fans just haven't wanted the tickets. Case in point: In 2009 I, an Alabama graduate and Tide Pride member, bought 4 Auburn season tickets in JHS. No donation to the athletic department, and no waiting list. Ordered them right off the website. Very funny that even after getting the Iron Bowl moved to Jordan-Hare, Auburn can't sell out their season ticket base without Alabama fans buying some of them.
This post was edited on 10/20/11 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:36 pm to thatguy1892
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Ding ding ding we have a winner! It was actually only the second time AU beat a Bama team in BDS that end the season with 10 wins. The first was the 2002 team. Which was the start of the probation sqads.
And the 2002 game took place when fran was packing his bags for A&M.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:37 pm to DvlsAdvocat
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Were the annual AL/AU games played in Birmingham considered neutral
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Then the results speak for themselves. Without the long standing home field advantage, bama started getting their arse handed to them.
Yeah, THAT was it...it wasn't because Bear Bryant was in the ground, and Mike Dubose and Mike Shula were on the sidelines. It was the turf.
And getting rid of that clown Doug Barfield probably didn't hurt them, either.
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