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Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:11 pm to Prof
I'm just glad we won after 31 years of losing to them big relief
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:14 pm to Kige Ramsey
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I'm just glad we won after 31 years of losing to them big relief
Half my fam is from Kentucky and I'm pretty much a border child so I'm as pleased as punch that UK won. My only regret is that my Mammaw (huge wildcat fan) didn't live to see it.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:51 pm to Prof
4Q - Even knowing the outcome I still got emotional. So proud of my Kentucky fam!
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:57 pm to Prof
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3Q - Franks isn't as bad as his OL is making him look. Oh and Michael Jordan looks stupid on a goddamn football uni.
Untrue, I actually did a breakdown on the Florida board.
Of 43 passing attempts he was hurried a total of 4 times. He actually had a very clean pocket for the majority of his bad passes.
His biggest problem is pass selection -- he takes risks and holds the ball way too long. If you know that the OL isn't holding onto the blocks, you have to adjust and call for shorter routes.
I can't imagine Mullen was happy about 22 of the 43 passes he took being intermediate or deep. He's not especially accurate, and while the OL did have some bad plays, he had a clean pocket over 75% of the throws he took.
There isn't a defensive linemen or LB within five yards of him, and he throws it directly to a Kentucky player. His actual interception he had no pressure at all.
At some point, we just have to come to the conclusion that he's not a good QB.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 12:02 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I'm not arguing that he's any good (he has a loooong way to go) it's just that throughout a lot of that game blown assignments were murder on him/the passing game.
To put it into fan perspective, I hope he keeps his job at least until after we play. He needs to get the ball out a ton faster but that OL kinda shocked me with how bad they were.
Kid's got a great arm but he's got a long way to go before he progresses between the ears.
To put it into fan perspective, I hope he keeps his job at least until after we play. He needs to get the ball out a ton faster but that OL kinda shocked me with how bad they were.
Kid's got a great arm but he's got a long way to go before he progresses between the ears.
This post was edited on 9/11/18 at 12:04 am
Posted on 9/11/18 at 12:12 am to Prof
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To put it into fan perspective, I hope he keeps his job at least until after we play. He needs to get the ball out a ton faster but that OL kinda shocked me with how bad they were.
I kind of get it, because we haven't had a functioning line in like 8 years -- but he really thinks he's an NFL QB. Like, he really thinks he's Tom Brady out there and he's going through his progressions, about to be the hero.
He doesn't like the checkdown passes, which are wide open almost all game.
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Kid's got a great arm but he's got a long way to go before he progresses between the ears.
I said it'd take him until next year to get the game down to a point where he could make an impact, but honestly after the Kentucky game I think he's too fargone.
The ONLY way he can remain QB all season is if he learns to just take the easy fricking passes and stop trying to be something he's not. I took that screenshot just because it was the easier one to take, but there are tons of downs where there's no pressure and he's not throwing it anywhere near where it needs to be.
Sorry to rant to you, but Florida fans are breaking their backs making excuses for him and shoveling all of the blame on other units when he is clearly not doing his job.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 12:29 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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I kind of get it, because we haven't had a functioning line in like 8 years -- but he really thinks he's an NFL QB. Like, he really thinks he's Tom Brady out there and he's going through his progressions, about to be the hero.
He doesn't like the checkdown passes, which are wide open almost all game.
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I don't think he's as good as Tyler Bray talent-wise but he's got a lot of TB in him. Under the right guidance he could be something - physically it's all there - but there's just a ton to make up mentally and Franks doesn't have the WR corps the Bray had. I think that happens all too often with guys who are so physically gifted/talented that they never have to develop the other side of the game. It's frustrating as hell for a fan to watch. You see the potential but they still think what they've done most of their life will work against players that are finally as talented as them.
If y'all had more than Van Jefferson then Franks might have an easier time. In the UK game, your RBs, Toney and Scarlett were your best receivers - a QB can't do much when that's the case.
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I said it'd take him until next year to get the game down to a point where he could make an impact, but honestly after the Kentucky game I think he's too fargone.
The ONLY way he can remain QB all season is if he learns to just take the easy fricking passes and stop trying to be something he's not. I took that screenshot just because it was the easier one to take, but there are tons of downs where there's no pressure and he's not throwing it anywhere near where it needs to be.
Sorry to rant to you, but Florida fans are breaking their backs making excuses for him and shoveling all of the blame on other units when he is clearly not doing his job.
Don't worry about ranting. Neither one of us has much to cheer for this season. I'll be happy if my Vols reach bowl eligibility but won't be surprised if we don't. It amazes me what bad decisions on the part of our respective admins have done to our programs.
IDK if Franks is too far gone or not (you're a better judge of that than me because you've watched him more). BUT I'll say the improvement in JG with a new coaching staff is worth thinking about. He went from someone that half the fanbase thought was terrible to someone we feel can and will be our QB. That doesn't happen a whole lot but it's early in the season for Franks.
If he doesn't have it between the ears it just won't happen but if he does then I can see sticking with him.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 12:50 am to Prof
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Don't worry about ranting. Neither one of us has much to cheer for this season. I'll be happy if my Vols reach bowl eligibility but won't be surprised if we don't. It amazes me what bad decisions on the part of our respective admins have done to our programs.
Totally agreed. I just hope that we can make some adjustments and at least go to a bowl.
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IDK if Franks is too far gone or not (you're a better judge of that than me because you've watched him more).
I've had a very keen eye for Florida Quarterbacks and have been paying close attention to him since last year. He's still making a lot of the same mistakes he was his first year, and if three coaching staffs (including High School) fail you, it's probably not their fault.
This post was edited on 9/11/18 at 12:52 am
Posted on 9/11/18 at 5:54 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Straws is in dreamland again....he blames everything on Franks...cause he thinks a backup who hasn't played since middle school is the answer. He needs to rewatch game and see where Franks is getting pissed at his OL early in the game after being pummeled time and again. Franks had few clean pockets...we could not establish a run game at all and any child knows that when you cant run...you are one dimensional.
Many times pass rushers came right up the middle without being touched....but I guess Straws didn't watch those plays or it wouldn't fit his agenda. He is here on the rant cause the Gator board has had their fill of his anti Franks crusade.
Many times pass rushers came right up the middle without being touched....but I guess Straws didn't watch those plays or it wouldn't fit his agenda. He is here on the rant cause the Gator board has had their fill of his anti Franks crusade.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 12:50 pm to reel_gator8
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He needs to rewatch game and see where Franks is getting pissed at his OL early in the game after being pummeled time and again.
Yeah, nothing says leader like "hey guys it's your fault I'm holding onto the ball too long so I'm going to say your three seconds aren't good enough because I need six so I can throw an unpressured interception."
I literally have a picture of him in this thread throwing a near interception with zero pressure.
I even did a complicated breakdown of his throws on the Florida Page, accompanied with links and evidence.
I'd argue it's more likely Florida fans are in denial about Franks' capacity to be a Quarterback rather than me just wanting my favorite horse to win the race, since I actually have evidence from statistics and video.
Video evidence of Franks fumbling a play-action.
No pressure, no one is near him. But let's attack the offensive line for only allowing 4 hurries on 22 intermediate/deep passes.
This post was edited on 9/11/18 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 9/11/18 at 1:25 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I certainly don't think Franks is awful and he wasn't the only reason the game went the way it did but I'm kinda with straws here. Theres a reason Dan Mullen recruited Terry Wilson. That reason is Felipe Franks.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 1:33 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Straws, don't air your dirty laundry on tRant to get support because you can't get any on the Gator board. You are beginning to look like another NegaGator with the first initials, TJ.
Face the fact that Franks is the best QB we have, like it or not! Our problems are bigger than Franks, the O-line is soft and the defense can't tackle. Those are bigger issues than an inconsistent QB.
Face the fact that Franks is the best QB we have, like it or not! Our problems are bigger than Franks, the O-line is soft and the defense can't tackle. Those are bigger issues than an inconsistent QB.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 1:48 pm to LouisvilleKat
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I certainly don't think Franks is awful
He is, a lot of Gators fans were telling me how he didn't have a clean pocket, it must have been bad Offensive Line play, so here are the screenshots:
^ This is his interception.
^ This is his should have been interception.
^ This is him fumbling the ball on a play-action because he was 'looking for the laces'.
^ This is another near interception in the red zone.
He could have been picked off three or four times in the 4th quarter and fumbled twice. This idea that his offensive line (which he threw under the bus) not protecting him is utter bullshite.
His interception and near interceptions (as you can see) are his own fault for not reading the defense correctly.
He wasn't the only problem, but his Quarterback play is a big reason we can't win games.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 1:55 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Exactly, most of the horrible throws he makes are all on him. Like a previous poster said in this thread. He threw 3 balls that should have been picked off in one series. And that is not even mentioning the 2 pt conversion play. The guy sucks, and you can't fix what is wrong with him. This is a rebuilding season, get another guy in the game this week. It's quite apparent that Franks is not a Qb. But Mullen won't and he'll let him throw the ball 35 to 40 times a game.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 2:03 pm to GaryGator
Some guy on reddit pegged it. Check my sig.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 2:04 pm to GaryGator
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This is a rebuilding season, get another guy in the game this week.
This would be a great topic on the Gator board but since you want someone else, who do you think it should be?
Trask - hasn't started a game since jr high or Jones - obviously isn't ready to play. Franks, like it or not is the best we have. We are going to have to live with that fact. Bashing him on tRant won't help that situation. If your logic was followed, we should bench the entire O-line and the defenders that missed tackles. "in all kinds of weather," Go gators!
This post was edited on 9/11/18 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 9/11/18 at 2:05 pm to GaryGator
I rewatched the game to get an idea and saw that our OL is worse in the rushing department than the passing.
In fact, I had every pass from the fourth quarter drive and he wasn't hurried or even pressured once -- he actually had 5 potential interceptions that were dropped (Kentucky defense actually dropped more passes than our offense).
He was literally hurried 4 times out of 43 passes (including penalties).
He hit 46% of his passes and was only hurried 4 times, that has absolutely dick all to do with pass rush and everything to do with him picking high risk passes or being inaccurate.
In fact, I had every pass from the fourth quarter drive and he wasn't hurried or even pressured once -- he actually had 5 potential interceptions that were dropped (Kentucky defense actually dropped more passes than our offense).
He was literally hurried 4 times out of 43 passes (including penalties).
He hit 46% of his passes and was only hurried 4 times, that has absolutely dick all to do with pass rush and everything to do with him picking high risk passes or being inaccurate.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 2:08 pm to UFMatt
Franks is lucky KY's defensice backs has the case of dropsies. I think they whiffed on about 6 throws.
At this point, Mullen needs a QB that can pound the rock. Is Franks that guy? if not, UF will struggle.
At this point, Mullen needs a QB that can pound the rock. Is Franks that guy? if not, UF will struggle.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 2:12 pm to Cdawg
quote:He got hit by our MLB Kash Daniels on 2 of the first three plays of the game and both times he cried like a bitch at his line. Kash is reportedly noteworthy for his hits in practice but as I said in the game thread "If Franks doesn't want to get hit, he's not the QB for a Mullen offense"
Mullen needs a QB that can pound the rock. Is Franks that guy? if not, UF will struggle.
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