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re: Watching Texas/TCU and I must say

Posted on 11/23/12 at 6:42 am to
Posted by Big Kat
Member since Feb 2009
5910 posts
Posted on 11/23/12 at 6:42 am to
Swope isn't a 4.5-4.6 guy

That's racists, bro!

Swope is hand timed at 4.36 last I saw. That's 4.4's at the combine
Posted by bhart99
Member since Oct 2007
662 posts
Posted on 11/23/12 at 7:52 am to

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I don't expect you to know facts, but we had two starters on D suspended, and two major contributors injured.

Sweet attempt though


Oh i knew that. That's where depth is supposed to come into play. Most teams at this point in the season are missing at least 2 starters on their D. Look at Oregon.....I believe they're missing like 7-8 starters from their opening day defense.
Posted by bhart99
Member since Oct 2007
662 posts
Posted on 11/23/12 at 7:55 am to
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The LaTech game, I don't know...just one of those things that can happen I guess.


.......when you face a BIG 12 like team. LIke the ones they've faced in all those past seasons when the defense got thrashed. All of a sudden this same defense is all of a sudden good in the SEC???
Posted by bhart99
Member since Oct 2007
662 posts
Posted on 11/23/12 at 7:57 am to
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He's a 4.5-4.6 range 40 yd dash guy...that is lacking top end speed as an NFL wideout.

His quickness makes that number mean less though as you are alluding to.


Would love to Brees throwing to him next season in the slot. The next Brady/Welker combo. I think that would be a scary combo
Posted by bhart99
Member since Oct 2007
662 posts
Posted on 11/23/12 at 7:59 am to
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Injured and suspended. Try and know what you're talking about before letting us all know you're a dumbass


So having 2 starters out is good excuse for getting 57 dropped on you by a WAC team?
Posted by Ball Gravy
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2008
2985 posts
Posted on 11/23/12 at 8:13 am to
We had 4 starters out for the La Tech game. 2 for suspension and 2 for injury.

It definitely affected our play on defense.
Posted by zip04
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Sep 2011
166 posts
Posted on 11/23/12 at 8:20 am to
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A&M's D is really under=rated


This. Everyone says that our D sucks. Everyone also says that LSU has one of the best D's in the country (which is true). However, if you look at points against within conference play (same competition except one cross divisional game), A&M has only allowed 2 more points than LSU. I would not put our D up at the same level as LSU or Bama's, but our 1's are not too far off. We just lack the depth at this point in time.
Posted by bhart99
Member since Oct 2007
662 posts
Posted on 11/23/12 at 8:32 am to
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We had 4 starters out for the La Tech game. 2 for suspension and 2 for injury.

It definitely affected our play on defense.


4. Missing players on defense
The Aggies will be without the services of starting weakside linebacker Steven Jenkins andRESERVE safety Howard Matthews. Both were suspended this summer by Kevin Sumlin for a "violation of team rules," a suspension that was originally slated for the season opener. When the game's date was moved after Hurricane Isaac, so was the pair's suspensions. Also, sophomore defensive back Deshazor Everett left the Ole Miss game early with an injury. Sumlin didn't discuss his status for the game this week, so it's unknown whether he'll be available. Donnie Baggs will start in Jenkins' place.

Nice spin though.
Posted by bhart99
Member since Oct 2007
662 posts
Posted on 11/23/12 at 8:42 am to
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This. Everyone says that our D sucks. Everyone also says that LSU has one of the best D's in the country (which is true). However, if you look at points against within conference play (same competition except one cross divisional game), A&M has only allowed 2 more points than LSU. I would not put our D up at the same level as LSU or Bama's, but our 1's are not too far off. We just lack the depth at this point in time.


Oh no your not too far off from LSU and Bamas defense. Funny thing is you have very similar players on this years defensive squad as last season. Last season you ranked 70th in the nation in scoring defense in the BIG 12 and this season you rank 28th in scoring defense in the SEC.

Got news for you...your defense isn't much better...you now play in a conference where the forward pass is illegal.

Is it a coincidence that a non SEC team scored twice as many points on you than any team you've played inside the SEC.....i think not.

This post was edited on 11/23/12 at 8:45 am
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 11/23/12 at 8:49 am to
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RESERVE safety Howard Matthews.


Howard Matthews started every game since La. Tech due to Steven Campbell's retirement after the Ole Miss game.

We had FOUR starters out that game:

Steven Jenkins - suspension
Deshazor Everett - injury
Howard Matthews - suspension
De'Vante Harris - injury
This post was edited on 11/23/12 at 8:51 am
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 11/23/12 at 8:52 am to
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Got news for you...your defense isn't much better...you now play in a conference where the forward pass is illegal.


As opposed to last year, when running was illegal?
Posted by khaos288
Member since Sep 2011
267 posts
Posted on 11/23/12 at 8:54 am to
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bhart99


Picks one game with tons of injuries and the worst officiating I've seen in a long time.

Ignores the rest of the season.

Sweet logic bro! I'm guessing Bama can't win any games either. I mean look at the way they play vs ATM. Mccarron was a turnover machine!
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 11/23/12 at 9:08 am to
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Oh i knew that. That's where depth is supposed to come into play


Which we do not have. We've been EXTREMELY fortunate that we only have 3 season ending injuries at this point:

Backup LG Shep Klinke required surgery on his ankle

Starting SS Steven Campbell had to retire

Backup SOLB Michael Richardson requires spinal surgery and may have to redshirt next season
Posted by relapse98
Member since Dec 2010
2736 posts
Posted on 11/23/12 at 10:48 am to
I'm just going to leave this here:

Things that I'm thankful for: 2001-2008, lost 16 games. 2009-2012, lost 15 games so far. 11-14 in last 25 conference games. Home record last 3 years, 10-9, conference games 4-8. Coach lost 6 home games in his first 12 years. Got beat at home to an unranked team who had 22 players kicked off the team including the starting quarterback and is playing with a freshman backup. 2 conference wins in 15 years and paid $5.5 million. Lost the last 3 in a row to your rival including an epic 63-21 beatdown this year. Lost both home games against the "upgrades" to the conference.

</nelson_muntz_haha>
Posted by bhart99
Member since Oct 2007
662 posts
Posted on 11/23/12 at 11:51 am to
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As opposed to last year, when running was illegal?


Believe it or not last year the BIG 12 had 5 teams in the top 25 in rushing yards per game. SEC--2.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 11/23/12 at 11:56 am to
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Believe it or not last year the BIG 12 had 5 teams in the top 25 in rushing yards per game. SEC--2.


WRONG

9. Missouri (now SEC)
10. Baylor (Big 12)
16. Alabama (SEC)
19. TCU (now Big 12)
20. t.u. (Big 12)
22. LSU (SEC)
24. Texas A&M (now SEC)
25. South Carolina (SEC)

If you include FORMER Big 12 schools:

Big 12 - 4
SEC - 3

If you use the schools in their CURRENT conferences:

SEC - 5
Big 12 - 3

Expanding further: (Top 50)

29. Kansas State (Big 12)
32. Auburn (SEC)
38. Mississippi State (SEC)
39. Iowa State (Big 12)
47. Vanderbilt (SEC)
49. Georgia (SEC)
50. Oklahoma (Big 12)
This post was edited on 11/23/12 at 11:59 am
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 11/23/12 at 12:07 pm to
Furthermore, let's examine the BCS Top 25 and where they rank in scoring defense:

1. Notre Dame (T1)
2. Alabama (T1)
3. Georgia (18)
4. Florida (3)
5. Oregon (27)
6. Kansas State (25)
7. LSU (12)
8. Stanford (T10)
9. Texas A&M (28)
10. Florida State (5)
11. Clemson (47)
12. South Carolina (13)
13. Oklahoma (29)
14. Nebraska (41)
15. Oregon State (21)
16. Texas (72)
17. UCLA (50)
18. Rutgers (4)
19. Michigan (17)
20. Louisville (46)
21. Oklahoma State (57)
22. Boise State (6)
23. Kent State (51)
24. Arizona (100)
25. Washington (36)

Only FOUR of the BCS top 25 schools are outside the top 50 in scoring defense. TWO of those four are in the Big 12.
Posted by GerryDiNardo
Bringing Back The Magic!
Member since Mar 2004
5686 posts
Posted on 11/23/12 at 12:09 pm to
Yards per game (or in this case, rushing yards per game) is a silly metric that means absolutely nothing. Yards per play would be a more accurate telling of offensive prowess, IMO.
Posted by FincAg11
San Antonio
Member since May 2012
414 posts
Posted on 11/23/12 at 12:11 pm to
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ask 2007 Tim Tebow how being the only good player on a team works out...they will still be a 2-4 loss team year in and year out.


So incredibly delusional. We have 3 players projected to go in the first round, none of them named Manziel.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 11/23/12 at 12:13 pm to
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Yards per game (or in this case, rushing yards per game) is a silly metric that means absolutely nothing. Yards per play would be a more accurate telling of offensive prowess, IMO.


I agree, and even using his selective stats, he's still wrong.
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