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Posted on 11/26/17 at 11:17 pm
Posted by Knocksville
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Posted on 11/26/17 at 11:17 pm
From Grant Ramey, GoVols247:

John Currie ... SMDH

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There's a lot of chatter about Tee Martin tonight, so I thought I would address it here.

I was told Tee never had a ton of interest in the Tennessee job over the course of this search, but now that all of this stuff has gone down today, he does see this as an opportunity he could possibly take advantage of. The Tennessee opening certainly looks different now than it did 12 hours ago. But it's also worth noting that Jimmy Sexton is his agent, so a lot of that talk could be coming from Sexton trying to get his guy a head coach gig. But apparently Tee is keeping his eye on the movement at Tennessee. Whether the Vols would go down that road remains to be seen.

As much public backlash as there was today against the possibility of hiring Greg Schiano, there was just as much backlash among Tennessee donors. The big names, too, as in seven-figure donors. And with reports that Currie flew to Columbus and already had an MOU signed by both parties, you'd have to imagine he was taking this search where he wanted to take it without much meaningful input from those big-name donors. So they spoke up and spoke loudly.

There was similar backlash from a lot of former players, some voicing it on social media and others communicating amongst each other about how unhappy they were with the thought of Schiano being Currie's hire.

It feels like, as much as anything, it was the big donors and former players that forced Tennessee's hand this afternoon and eventually forced the Vols to walk away from what was a finalizing deal.

Despite the attention Tennessee's fanbase has gotten from national media today, saying the fan backlash made this fall apart. There were obviously a lot of factors in play.

With an MOU signed by both parties, questions that will have to be answered going forward are how much money, if any, that Tennessee owes Schiano and how this affects Currie's role going forward. It's hard to imagine he has the same support inside his own athletic department that he had at the beginning of the day, but that's just outside speculation at this point.

Darren Rovell, ESPN's Sports Business Reporter, said earlier on twitter that factors that would go into the money would be if the MOU was signed and executed and which party backed out first, or if it was mutual.

We reported Saturday that Currie went around to some select UTAD personnel seeking feedback on a handful of candidates, and the feedback on Schiano was unanimously negative, as it was described to me.

That sentiment seemed to be reflected when the Schiano leaks started this afternoon, with Currie in Columbus finalizing a deal while many UTAD employees were in the dark in Knoxville and not happy with the news.
Posted by SECFan1995
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Posted on 11/26/17 at 11:19 pm to
Knoxville may literally turn into a burning dumpster fire tomorrow.
Posted by Hussss
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Posted on 11/26/17 at 11:20 pm to
It's official: Currie is a PLANT
Posted by Giant Leaf
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Posted on 11/26/17 at 11:20 pm to
Basically confirming that a deal was made

Schiano and his lawyers will have a fricking field day

May UT have many 0-8 conference seasons to come for being a band of scumbags
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 11/26/17 at 11:21 pm to
What a giant black eye of a shite show. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything like it.
Posted by starsandstripes
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Posted on 11/26/17 at 11:21 pm to
i know one thing: the attorneys on retainer for UT are earning that money this week.
Posted by MT555
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Posted on 11/26/17 at 11:22 pm to
frick Knoxville..
Posted by Knocksville
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Posted on 11/26/17 at 11:22 pm to
Well... lots of mattresses and orange clothing were ablaze near the football training center today haha

Currie has A LOT of explaining to do. The only good thing that could come out of this is if the majority of the big money donors use this to finally run off the Haslams. They made the last two AD hires and last two football hires and were firmly pushing Schiano much to the chagrin of the Athletic Department, the boosters and the fan base.

We Vol fans are a crazy lot. We deserve the majority of the hell we catch. But the National Media crucifying us tonight are clueless.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
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Posted on 11/26/17 at 11:23 pm to
Look at the hires the last 25 years.

Fulmer...no HC experience.
Kiffin.
Dooley.
Jones.

Martin pretty much fits right in. Schiano was the ceiling as far as, from a historical perspective, who you would expect Tennessee to hire. Martin is below that.
Posted by David Ricky
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Posted on 11/26/17 at 11:23 pm to
What a fricking buffoon
Posted by jlnoles79
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Posted on 11/26/17 at 11:24 pm to
Tee Martin would be a disaster. UT fans deserve it
Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 11/26/17 at 11:26 pm to
So what happens if the donors refuse to pay for the screw up? I’d the University on the hook? I don’t see how an academic institution could be held responsible if he went rough.
Posted by Sao
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Posted on 11/26/17 at 11:26 pm to

I'll be h onest and say I have never liked the GOBN or Big Cigar way of doing business at Arkansas. I can empathize a bit with Currie in that respect even though the large part of his position is to keep that money flowing.

Coaching hires shouldn't be left up to the largest donors. It's bulsh, IMO
Posted by Prof
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Posted on 11/26/17 at 11:26 pm to
MOUs are not binding agreements. They're 'this is what we're going to do when things get signed' agreements. I'm sure Sexton will try to get money for his client but it's not as though an MOU is the same as a signed contract.
Posted by Knocksville
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Posted on 11/26/17 at 11:26 pm to
The only net upside to Martin would be the excitement generated within the former player base.

I think he would be passionate and recruit well to TN. I think 8-4 and 7-5 would be his upside.

Is what it is. The Haslams have buried UT’s program with this one.
Posted by DesScorp
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Posted on 11/26/17 at 11:27 pm to
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What a giant black eye of a shite show. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything like it.


Mike Price, and hookers on University of Alabama credit cards.
Posted by Knocksville
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Posted on 11/26/17 at 11:28 pm to
Yes. The hire hadn’t even been brought to the Board of Trustees yet. They would’ve still had to approve the contract. That wasn’t happening.
Posted by David Ricky
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Posted on 11/26/17 at 11:28 pm to
This completely sounds like the Haslams told Currie who to hire and the other donors are getting sick of throwing all their money in and having no say.

I should have known better than to think Mike Hamilton's former right hand man would be anything other than an incompetent puppet for Pilot/Flying J
Posted by BamaGradinTn
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Posted on 11/26/17 at 11:28 pm to
quote:

I think he would be passionate and recruit well to TN. I think 8-4 and 7-5 would be his upside.


So, Butch Jones.
Posted by Torch
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Posted on 11/26/17 at 11:29 pm to
quote:

The Haslams have buried UT’s program with this one.


Exactly. Jimmy frickstick Haslam 3. VOLS = Browns because Jimmy owns both.
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