re: Virginia to the SEC? What do they bring to the table?

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Because it hasn't been proven to me.

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then you are being willfully ignorant at this point and there is no way to make you understand.

you need that money to keep your facilities up and to pay the top coaches. Without that you will eventually lose recruits and start to decline.

With the Big 10 and Pac 12 getting more and more money from their networks the SECN will be needed to keep the SEC ahead of them.

I don't see how you aren't getting this.

I hear there are alot of good looking sluts at UVA.

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If I were a Missouri fan, I'd pretty much be sitting this one out. So far the only thing Mizzou has brought to the table is fodder.

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So it's willfull obtuseness. Guess we answered that question.

I do apologize for understanding the conference realignment issue more clearly than you. Your petty ad hominem comments about my school don't change the realities of the market.

Tilt away, Sen. Quixote.

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It is so nice to come into the SEC Rant and have a reasonable discussion.

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Such a rare thing these days and why I tend to find most of my time spent off tRant and on the other boards. Glad as well to see there is still a ray of hope left.

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then you are being willfully ignorant at this point and there is no way to make you understand.

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Why not just stop there? Because the rest of your text is pure conjecture and no real proof.

If I'm not mistaken LSU has built a new baseball stadium and has made MAJOR improvements to the football stadium as well as the PMAC. Most of this was funded through the Tiger Athletic Foundation - a private concern that receives no money from the SEC.

But at least you're being honest and admitting it's all about money and not some notion of improving academics through osmosis or some shite.

Look, I first replied in this thread to someone who expressed a similar thought, they'd rather see a couple of schools but realizes that it's unrealistic. I too would rather see those schools, or at least FSU and UNC, and I think there are a LOT of fans that have these sentiments - they are more interested in matchups than TV money.

I'm just sorry it's come to the point where what the fan wants in terms of product is irrelevent. And when it comes down to someone asking me who I'd like to see join the conferenc, I don't run the financials, I think about what team I'd like to see play LSU regularly.

BTW, I remember going to the Aggie board some time back in the 00's and reading about how impossible it was for A&M to ever play LSU again, and how it had to do with money and shite. Those aggies were ADAMANT. They didn't want to have ANYTHING to do with LSU EVER again.

I'm glad to have A&M on board, and I'm glad all that talk was meaningless. It just goes to show that sometinmes when you're absolutelty positive about a situation, shite changes and you're proved wrong.

@the808bass

I for one am glad to have y'all, you have grown on me and in time I believe y'all will prove your worth.

Yes there are something's we don't see eye to eye on but you'll never find a perfect fit. I feel that y'all are very similar to many of us yet at the same time different enough to bring a breathe of fresh air.

Y'all have also impressed me at how well y'all have taken the abuse and ridicule from the rest of the SECr and have just brushed it off your shoulder not giving two shits that you football never lived up to the hype or that the Basketball team fell flat on its face ... y'all just kept chugging along, for that I respect y'all.

In the end I am glad to have y'all and I hove in time that the addition of teams like UNC & UVA will allow y'all to move to the west where y'alls home is and then also we might get a few more wins in a year ...


Anyway glad to have you folks, just keep the youse guyz and hair products as far away from me as possible and we are good.

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"That's alright, that's OK, you're gonna work for us someday"

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30 years ago Northwestern fans used to chant that when they were getting the crap kicked out of them in basketball by the Fighting Illini.

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"That's alright, that's OK, you're gonna work for us someday"

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I've heard Vandy chant this a numerous amount of times when they were getting the shite kicked out of them.


Sad thing they were probably right.

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I do apologize for understanding the conference realignment issue more clearly than you.

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Jee-zus.

I understand COMPLETELY the re-alignment issue from the perspective of the SEC front office and the administrations of the member institutions. The difference here is that I ALSO understand the issue from the perspective of the FANS. Something that seems to be lacking around here - ironically enough.

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the realities of the market.

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The realities of the market are that the producers are dictating the demand to the consumers. We shall want what they tell us to want. I'm sorry if you don't like me objecting to that notion.

I realize that you feel you have to justify Missouri's admission to the SEC through the corporate line, but just because it may make financial sense to the SEC, I don't have to accept that Missouri is a great addition to the conference. Missouri, while a great school, is just not a good athletic fit for the SEC. THAT is what I'm saying, if we keep on with the corporate line, we'll end up with more square pegs like Missouri. Will the SEC benefit overall with the addition of your school? maybe, maybe not. As of now they haven't really added anything. The theory is that the added revenue from the SECN will keep all the member schools financially in line with the other conferences, like the Big 10.

Curiously, the SEC has lagged behind the Big 10 in revenue before, and yet remained competitive with them. There are other criteria that determine the relative success of one program, or conference, over another. Available talent comes to mind.

So if you want to just view it one way and refuse to see any other perspectives on the situation, that's your prerogative. And while you'll call me "obtuse", I'll just call you narrow-minded.

BTW, my attacks were not against your "school" they were against the ineptitude of your athletic program. Nothing more. And to be honest, I've always been a fan of your football team. I was PISSED when Colorado got that 5th down. That, and I hate Kansas.

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Those Saturdays on TV mean something to the academic side of the equation. Like it or not. Believe it or not.

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Yes, they do. And watching LSU beat UVA doesn't hold a candle to watching LSU beat FSU on a Saturday night.

I'm just afraid that everyone seems to think I don't understand the dynamics simply because I hold a different view. Here's a clue: Just because someone holds a different opinion from you based on the same facts doesn't mean they don't understand. They may be considering something you're not. Or it could simply be a matter of opinion.

You see, I've been through this SEC expansion before, and heard all the same reasoning - and even went along with it in '92 even though I had no interest in seeing USC join the conference. 20 years later I'm still looking for all the expected benefits of USC joining outside of the benefits we would have seen if FSU had joined - a 12 team conference allowing for a championship game.

If it comes down to which ever conference can get the most money, wins, I'll just look for my entertainment somewhere else. That really doesn't do it for me.