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Posted on 3/12/12 at 9:11 am to busey
Your happy UK lost yesterday on National TV? Okay, well I'm happy Vandy won their first SEC Basketball Title since 1951! Vandy has a slow start with Festus Ezeli hurt the first 6 weeks of the season. Vandy seems to be peaking at just the right time. It's nice to see a group of seniors playing basketball together. You don't get to see that much anymore. Vandy and Kentucky are the polar opposites when it comes to how they coach and play the game.
Posted on 3/12/12 at 9:12 am to TenTex
I'm not happy we lost, but in the end it doesn't change anything, so it is what it is. It has been a great season and I really could not asked for anything more thus far.
Posted on 3/12/12 at 9:52 am to busey
Kudos to Vandy, Kevin Stallings, and this veteran squad who have worked hard, won many games, beat many good teams like Kentucky before during their time at Vandy, but until now had never won a really big game for hardware. It was great for them and made even sweeter by the fact that a SEA of BLUE was their to witness it.
VANDY SEC CHAMPS
Kentucky is very talented and formibable and very deserving of the number 1 national seed. That said, they are beatable as Vandy showed. They have a lot of pressure on them as was shown in NOLA in too close games against LSU and Florida. I think some of that pressure is self imposed. I predict they will fall short in the Big tourney even though they may be the most talented team and their record speaks for itself. I look for a team like UCONN, Indiana, or Duke to cause trouble for the CATS. That is not an easy road.
VANDY SEC CHAMPS
Kentucky is very talented and formibable and very deserving of the number 1 national seed. That said, they are beatable as Vandy showed. They have a lot of pressure on them as was shown in NOLA in too close games against LSU and Florida. I think some of that pressure is self imposed. I predict they will fall short in the Big tourney even though they may be the most talented team and their record speaks for itself. I look for a team like UCONN, Indiana, or Duke to cause trouble for the CATS. That is not an easy road.
Posted on 3/12/12 at 9:56 am to BoudreauxinGA
If we play Duke it will not be close. It will be alley-oop city. They simply can't match up down low with Davis and Jones. I love this match up. This is not a good match up for Duke at all.
No way Indiana can beat us twice in one season. They're simply not very good. They caught lightning in a bottle the first time. The odds of it happening twice in a season are extremely low, especially when the game will be in Louisville with 19,000 UK fans in the arena.
I disagree that this is a hard road. Most people see the teams and say it will be hard while not actually knowing anything about the teams.
No way Indiana can beat us twice in one season. They're simply not very good. They caught lightning in a bottle the first time. The odds of it happening twice in a season are extremely low, especially when the game will be in Louisville with 19,000 UK fans in the arena.
I disagree that this is a hard road. Most people see the teams and say it will be hard while not actually knowing anything about the teams.
This post was edited on 3/12/12 at 10:00 am
Posted on 3/12/12 at 9:59 am to Ignignot
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Vanderbilt Commodores 2012 SEC Basketball Champs!!
Nope.
Tournament champs.
Posted on 3/12/12 at 10:03 am to therick711
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Ask Washington about their regular season championship if you are too dense to understand that it is a figment of your imagination.
The official SEC championship is awarded to the regular season champion. That is Kentucky. The SEC tournament awards an automatic bid to the NCAA tournament, but is not the official conference championship. It is the TOURNAMENT championship. That belongs to Vandy.
If you don't understand this or aren't aware of it, my advice is to avoid any conversations on the topic so as not to expose your ignorance.
This post was edited on 3/12/12 at 10:03 am
Posted on 3/12/12 at 10:06 am to therick711
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As I stated before, enjoy your meaningless accomplishment. Winning the SEC "regular season championship" was good enough to get LSU a mid-seed and a date with UNC in 2009. Obviously everyone (including the selection committee) sees it as meaningless but you.
All of life is meaningless if you want it to be. The conference has championships in every sport. Schools in the conference try to win those championships and, to the extent that they deem them important, they're meaningful. The basketball championship goes to the team which compiles the best SEC record over the course of the season. Some people regard an SEC championship as important. If you don't, then that's your decision, but why watch sports if you don't care who wins?
This post was edited on 3/12/12 at 10:07 am
Posted on 3/12/12 at 10:11 am to TenTex
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Vandy won the SEC Championship for 2012! Any Kentucky fans crowing about it just need to look at the trophy Vandy has, the shirt, hats, ESPN, SI, if you cannot accept that then I guess you might be a sore Cat loser.
I really wasn't aware of how many people are completely clueless and ignorant of the SEC basketball championship format.
The SEC awards two championships in basketball...the SEC championship and the SEC Tournament championship. They are separate titles. The SEC championship is obviously the more presitigious, which is why that is what they count when talking about schools' history. Hell, the tournament wasn't even held for 20-something years before 1979. The tournament is nothing but a gimmick to make money. The only way it would make money was to have something riding on it, so they put the auto-bid to the NCAA on the line, figuring the regular season champ would always get an at-large bid anyway even if they didn't win the tournament, which is of course exactly what has happened every year since 1979 that the SEC champion didn't win the SEC Tournament.
Posted on 3/12/12 at 10:17 am to Nuts4LSU
Do you see teams displaying the type of emotion that Mizzou, Vandy, etc displayed when they clinch the regular season "championship"? No
Vandy is the SEC champs, they won when it mattered. Just cause they might've lost a game or two several months ago is meaningless right now. Again, UK would trade in their regular season victories over Vandy in order to win this "gimmicky" game and title from yesterday.
Postseason > regular season
Just ask LSU
Vandy is the SEC champs, they won when it mattered. Just cause they might've lost a game or two several months ago is meaningless right now. Again, UK would trade in their regular season victories over Vandy in order to win this "gimmicky" game and title from yesterday.
Postseason > regular season
Just ask LSU
Posted on 3/12/12 at 10:18 am to UFownstSECsince1950
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UK would trade in their regular season victories over Vandy in order to win this "gimmicky" game and title from yesterday.
No. We wouldn't because that would possibly jeopardize the #1 overall seed.
Posted on 3/12/12 at 10:20 am to busey
No it wouldn't. Not this year at least.....
Posted on 3/12/12 at 10:24 am to UFownstSECsince1950
Well I'm glad you know what UK fans and players would have rather had.
Posted on 3/12/12 at 10:28 am to busey
So you'd take a regular season win against Vandy over the championship game yesterday? I'm sure the thousands of UK fans who traveled to NOLA would rather win the game that mattered most. Maybe they're just silly 
Posted on 3/12/12 at 10:31 am to UFownstSECsince1950
I'm saying it literally doesn't matter. We got the #1 overall seed. That's what's important.
And honestly people flocked to NOLA during the Gillispie years. They go no matter what. Yes, it would have been nice to win, but people go every single year just for the experience. It's not like their trip was a waste because we didn't win.
And honestly people flocked to NOLA during the Gillispie years. They go no matter what. Yes, it would have been nice to win, but people go every single year just for the experience. It's not like their trip was a waste because we didn't win.
Posted on 3/12/12 at 10:33 am to busey
So now you're agreeing that I do know what UK fans want? 
Posted on 3/12/12 at 10:42 am to busey
Basketball tournaments for the 'BCS Conferences' are a little different depending on the team or even conference.
The tournament champion will always be a big deal in the ACC. Until 1975 it was the tournament champion who got their NCAA bid while if the regular season champ --if a different team--stayed home or went to the NIT.Obviously its changed and its hard to imagine a scenarion where their regular season champ wouldn't go to the NCAA, but its still a big deal . And with the Big East tourney being held in MSG their tourney champ has always been a big deal.
SEC Tournament (IMO) is more fun than anything. It gives a bubble team a shot at the tourney, or an incredible Cinderellaish story like Ole Miss in 1981, Auburn in 1985, Arkansas in 2000 and especially Georgia in 2008. I was thrilled that Vanderbilt won yesterday and would certainly like to see LSU win or at least be more competitive, but IMO while the SEC does award its automatic bid to the tourney champ, SEC Regular season champ > Tourney champ.
The tournament champion will always be a big deal in the ACC. Until 1975 it was the tournament champion who got their NCAA bid while if the regular season champ --if a different team--stayed home or went to the NIT.Obviously its changed and its hard to imagine a scenarion where their regular season champ wouldn't go to the NCAA, but its still a big deal . And with the Big East tourney being held in MSG their tourney champ has always been a big deal.
SEC Tournament (IMO) is more fun than anything. It gives a bubble team a shot at the tourney, or an incredible Cinderellaish story like Ole Miss in 1981, Auburn in 1985, Arkansas in 2000 and especially Georgia in 2008. I was thrilled that Vanderbilt won yesterday and would certainly like to see LSU win or at least be more competitive, but IMO while the SEC does award its automatic bid to the tourney champ, SEC Regular season champ > Tourney champ.
Posted on 3/12/12 at 10:59 am to I-59 Tiger
Just don't pick Vandy to go very far in NCAA's they always mess up my bracket.lol
Posted on 3/12/12 at 11:06 am to Nuts4LSU
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All of life is meaningless if you want it to be. The conference has championships in every sport. Schools in the conference try to win those championships and, to the extent that they deem them important, they're meaningful. The basketball championship goes to the team which compiles the best SEC record over the course of the season. Some people regard an SEC championship as important. If you don't, then that's your decision, but why watch sports if you don't care who wins?
As I said earlier, ask Washington about that. The bottom-line is you win the tourney, you're in. You win the "regular season" you may be in, but notably this year, you could be left out. Same with every mid and low major conference. Ask Drexel.
Posted on 3/12/12 at 11:17 am to therick711
I'm aware of all that. I'm not sure what your point is.
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