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re: USC v. Bama H2H

Posted on 12/5/24 at 6:50 am to
Posted by Demosthenian
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 6:50 am to
Of course it’s based on feels. In a beauty pageant content, there’s no objective criteria for “better”.

That’s the whole point.

It’s idiotic for Bama to claim that they’re “better” based on a narrow outcome months ago, when clearly execution and momentum are trending away from Bama and in favor of USC
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
29249 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 6:50 am to
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First tie breaker is h2h.

Incorrect.


Not totally incorrect.

In CONFERENCE play, the 1st tie breaker is h2h. Given where we fell behind Ole Miss and Bama, I'm sure the committee did the lazy thing and just used that metric.

I understand, but I also think there is an argument to be made that teams grow throughout the season and SC grew at a faster rate and finished the season as a better team.

But my opinion doesn't count.
Posted by Temple of the Dog
Member since Nov 2019
1329 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 6:50 am to
The only people continuing to bring it up are perpetually raw assed LSU fans, one weird alter pretending to be a Carolina fan and......Georgia fans?
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
11141 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 6:51 am to
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You’re right, I stand corrected… only what goes on for two weeks in an entire season counts… don’t worry about the head to head…


The LANK STANKS. The stench hasn't worn off yet.
Posted by ghoast
Member since Jul 2020
1464 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 6:51 am to
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At this point anyone still bitching just hates Bama and didn’t want them in.


…or just fears they may meet them again and go 1-10 out of the last 11…I call it “Fear Melting”
Posted by Temple of the Dog
Member since Nov 2019
1329 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 6:51 am to
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I understand, but I also think there is an argument to be made that teams grow throughout the season and SC grew at a faster rate and finished the season as a better team.

But my opinion doesn't count.


Completely reasonable argument
Posted by Temple of the Dog
Member since Nov 2019
1329 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 6:52 am to
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The LANK STANKS. The stench hasn't worn off yet.


The brimming confidence makes sense from a team that has been as consistently elite as yours this season.
Posted by Demosthenian
Zetto, Granite Bowl, & points btwn
Member since Sep 2021
682 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 6:53 am to
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Why even play the games if head to head is not the best measurement?
The games weren’t originated to satisfy the playoff.

The games came first. The playoff was tacked on.

You play the games to represent your school in a sport the players love. Not to fulfill some playoff assessment review scheme
This post was edited on 12/5/24 at 6:54 am
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
9036 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 6:55 am to
I don't have to justify the committee decisions. I am enjoying their unique perspective right now. Lets see how I feel next week.
Posted by Demosthenian
Zetto, Granite Bowl, & points btwn
Member since Sep 2021
682 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 6:57 am to
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teams grow throughout the season and SC grew at a faster rate and finished the season as a better team.
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Completely reasonable argument
This is my argument.

Not sure why the Power G logo makes you respond stupidly to my OP
Posted by Temple of the Dog
Member since Nov 2019
1329 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 6:58 am to
Because his argument is "we have a decent argument, but it's still close and head to head comes into play. I wish we'd gotten in but it's too close to act like we got fvcked".Your argument is "one was right, the other is wrong, one got SCREWED".
This post was edited on 12/5/24 at 6:59 am
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
18571 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 7:01 am to
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You play the games to represent your school in a sport the players love. Not to fulfill some playoff assessment review scheme


Nobody thinks Alabama is 1-2 or 1-4.

At 12/13, they have a case.

I’m not an Alabama fan, but if the choice is Alabama or South Carolina, then Alabama is my pick.

Ole Miss might be a different conversation. Good wins over UGA and USC. Bad loss to Kentucky.

Bama good wins over USC, UGA.
Bad loss to Oklahoma.
Posted by Temple of the Dog
Member since Nov 2019
1329 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 7:02 am to
Exactly. None of them would be WRONG answers. All 3 have pros and cons.
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
11141 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 7:02 am to
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The brimming confidence makes sense from a team that has been as consistently elite as yours this season.


True. Like 14 other teams in the top 15, we've managed to at least play .500 teams close if we couldn't beat them.
Posted by Demosthenian
Zetto, Granite Bowl, & points btwn
Member since Sep 2021
682 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 7:02 am to
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Your argument is "one was right, the other is wrong, one got SCREWED".
I mean, not at all, but say whatever to crawfish into a different posture if that’s how you want to strategize your approach here.
Posted by Temple of the Dog
Member since Nov 2019
1329 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 7:02 am to
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True. Like 14 other teams in the top 15, we've managed to at least play .500 teams close if we couldn't beat them.


You gonna play any of those moving forward?
Posted by MykTide
Member since Jul 2012
26258 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 7:03 am to
UGA fans are nervous about the possibility of having to face Bama in the playoffs.

It’s understandable. Bama owns you.
Posted by Temple of the Dog
Member since Nov 2019
1329 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 7:04 am to
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I mean, not at all, but say whatever to crawfish into a different posture if that’s how you want to strategize your approach here.


Carolinas argument is last month. Ole Miss' argument is comparing common opponents. Alabama's argument is the season as a whole, good and bad, being the best (and pointing to every computer metrics that agrees with that).
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
29249 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 7:20 am to
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Completely reasonable argument


For all my bravado on here, real or false, I would like think I'm a rational person on the other side of the keyboard...


I get the H2H argument, but SC and Bama had 4 common opponents. Bama is 2-2 and SC is 3-1.

SC barely lost to LSU. Bama blew them out.
Bama lost to Vandy. SC blew them out
Bama blew out Missouri, SC beat them in the 4th quarter.
Bama got blown out by Oklahoma, SC blew out Ok.
This post was edited on 12/5/24 at 7:24 am
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
25730 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 7:23 am to
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Unless you Bama fans want to admit Vandy and OU are better teams than the Tide)


Head to head is never applied in a vacuum. Head to head is only used when all else is equal. Everyone understands that.
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