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Posted on 1/30/11 at 4:25 pm to HottyToddy7
Posted on 1/30/11 at 4:25 pm to HottyToddy7
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Most people don't realize that campus goes all the way to the Softball/Soccer fields, down towards the intramural fields and across to Campus Walk which is now owned by the university. It is just not close to any education building so people don't think about it.
Ole Miss and Arkansas were the biggest surprises to me in this list. I had no idea Ole Miss was as big, or Arkansas as small as they are.
I bet most SEC fans are shocked that Ole Miss has a bigger campus than Alabama.
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Posted on 1/30/11 at 4:26 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
Updated? You went and measured?
Posted on 1/30/11 at 4:31 pm to dkreller
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Updated? You went and measured?
Fan input and my own research. The Ole Miss Fans were very generous and forthcoming about their campus size. I wish every school's fans were like that.
Posted on 1/30/11 at 4:34 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
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I bet most SEC fans are shocked that Ole Miss has a bigger campus than Alabama.
With the city on one side and the river on the other, we can't grow anywhere but up. We're an urban campus.
Posted on 1/30/11 at 4:38 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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With the city on one side and the river on the other, we can't grow anywhere but up. We're an urban campus.
That river, it's not really that wide, is it? A bridge to the other side wouldn't be out of the question, would it?
LSU, for example, owns land across the Mississippi River from the campus. A bridge to that land would be a massive undertaking, and the traffic on the river there would be a major factor against.
Posted on 1/30/11 at 4:40 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
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That river, it's not really that wide, is it? A bridge to the other side wouldn't be out of the question, would it?
That's not even Tuscaloosa on the other side of the Black Warrior River.
Posted on 1/30/11 at 4:41 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
Do you know if that number for Ole Miss counts the land across hwy 6 that the university owns? I would love to rebuild the Tad Pad over there and use the old location for parking.
Posted on 1/30/11 at 4:43 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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That's not even Tuscaloosa on the other side of the Black Warrior River.
Does Alabama care if they grow out of Tuscaloosa?
And the Ole Miss-Alabama campus comparison is more about perception. When I think Ole Miss I think compact campus, and conversely, Alabama as more spread out.
Posted on 1/30/11 at 4:47 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
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Does Alabama care if they grow out of Tuscaloosa?
I don't see the main campus doing so right now. With the purchase of the Bryce land, I think it will settle UA's growth needs for the time being. The only facilities for Alabama's main campus, that are not on the main campus, are in Dauphin Island and Moundville. Now, this doesn't begin to count other properties within the UA System.
Posted on 1/30/11 at 4:48 pm to HottyToddy7
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Do you know if that number for Ole Miss counts the land across hwy 6 that the university owns? I would love to rebuild the Tad Pad over there and use the old location for parking.
Ole Miss lists their campus as 2,000 acres. They don't however, say it's contiguous. You need to look at an aerial map and compare with a campus map to figure it out.
If you find an updated figure for me, I'll be happy to update it. The Ole Miss fans have all been pretty honest and forthcoming. I'm inclined to trust you guys.
Posted on 1/30/11 at 4:50 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
FWIW, I used his tool on the U of A campus as well. It came up with 505 acres. I was careful to trace the same outline shown on the University campus map. It seems there might be a difference in whether an undeveloped land number was used versus a number with roadways, setbacks, etc. removed.
I am frequently on the LSU campus and was surprised to see the 2000 acre number. I would have suspected 650 acres, of course, I would not have thought to include the golf course, the levy fields, and the Nicholson apartments. It also appears that the shops on the west side of Chimes are on LSU property.
Like you, I would have thought that the campus started at the north gate and extended to the south (east) gate on Highland. I would have not guessed that university property extends all the way to Brightside Drive.
I am frequently on the LSU campus and was surprised to see the 2000 acre number. I would have suspected 650 acres, of course, I would not have thought to include the golf course, the levy fields, and the Nicholson apartments. It also appears that the shops on the west side of Chimes are on LSU property.
Like you, I would have thought that the campus started at the north gate and extended to the south (east) gate on Highland. I would have not guessed that university property extends all the way to Brightside Drive.
Posted on 1/30/11 at 4:50 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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Now, this doesn't begin to count other properties within the UA System.
Every university is in the same boat. The purpose of this thread was to show the size of each school's main, contiguous campus.
As I said before, if we included off campus grounds and facilities, we'd have a very different list.
Posted on 1/30/11 at 4:55 pm to liferedeemed
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Like you, I would have thought that the campus started at the north gate and extended to the south (east) gate on Highland. I would have not guessed that university property extends all the way to Brightside Drive.
It's very irregularly shaped, and the campus outline has changed since I went to school there. But the school basically inhabits the same 2,000 plus acres the legislature set aside for the new campus back when it was in the design stage, and LSU was located downtown.
I know at one point there was talking of moving the golf course off campus to make room for a research center.
This post was edited on 1/30/11 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 1/30/11 at 5:17 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
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As far as trees go, LSU's lakes are on the periphery, while Florida's takes up space in the middle. So more land area in the LSU campus than Florida's. And more trees on the land.
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You didn't answer my question about the 900 buildings. That works out to about a building every other acre, which doesn't compute based on what you say about the trees, the lake, and the golf course.
In any case, each school has these figures listed, and I'm sure they know better than anyone how much ground they have to care for.
UF
LSU
the eyes don't deceive. just take a look at the satellite maps and two things are obvious. first, uf's campus is huge by comparison. i have to zoom out pretty far just to get half of it on my screen. if uf's campus is 2000 acres, then lsu's 2000+ number must include additional land not connected to the main campus. again, look at the maps which are nearly the same scale.
secondly, the tree cover on uf's campus is pretty dense even in the most building-congested areas. i don't know what your question was about the 900 buildings. was it something like "how can there be lots of trees with so many buildings?" the buildings are generally small and the space in between them is filled with trees. for example, this section of campus has lots of buildings but also lots of tree cover minus a couple of parking lots: photo
looking at the map of lsu's campus, nearly half of the campus is barren of trees. the southern and western parts of campus are just fields.
In conclusion, UF wins the SEC championship for campus size and also the People's Trophy for Most Trees. MSU is disqualified, because it is mostly farmland and manure.
Posted on 1/30/11 at 5:29 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
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1. Mississippi State - Main campus is approx 2,000 acres plus. State lists their campus size at 4,200 acres, but they include off-campus research facilities like The R. R. Foil Plant Science Research Center which is approximately 750 acres. Last time I was I was there I walked the length and breadth of the main campus and found it no larger than LSU's.
make the t-shirts!
Posted on 1/30/11 at 5:38 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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That's not even Tuscaloosa on the other side of the Black Warrior River.
Yes it is.
Posted on 1/30/11 at 5:44 pm to Tolbert1906
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if uf's campus is 2000 acres, then lsu's 2000+ number must include additional land not connected to the main campus.
Nope. You just need to know the contours. I spent some time with the calculator you linked, and with the aid of many many pins was able to get a pretty good figure that jibed with what LSU claims.
There are also surveys done by the state, from before the time LSU even moved to it's present location. I'm sure UF has the same kind of surveys in Florida.
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...nearly the same scale.
And UF nearly beat LSU. And yet...
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In conclusion...
..go troll elsewhere.
This post was edited on 1/30/11 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 1/30/11 at 5:45 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
That river, it's not really that wide, is it? A bridge to the other side wouldn't be out of the question, would it?
It's fairly wide but not Mississippi River wide. It is also a commercial waterway which raises the expense of any bridge due to clearance issues. It really would be pointless since there's not that much undeveloped land on the other side of the river. There is some land directly east of the Bama campus just across McFarland Blvd/US 82 that could possibly be used for expansion. Part of it is state owned (Partlow Hospital) but I don't know much available land is there.
It's fairly wide but not Mississippi River wide. It is also a commercial waterway which raises the expense of any bridge due to clearance issues. It really would be pointless since there's not that much undeveloped land on the other side of the river. There is some land directly east of the Bama campus just across McFarland Blvd/US 82 that could possibly be used for expansion. Part of it is state owned (Partlow Hospital) but I don't know much available land is there.
Posted on 1/30/11 at 5:46 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
I didn't realize that the campus wasn't moved to the present location till the 1930's. LSU had a rough beginning, but they persevered. Long did a lot for Louisiana. Corruption was a part of life, but he navigated the system for the end objective.
The institution opened January 2, 1860. The school was forced to close on June 30, 1861, with the start of the American Civil War.
The seminary officially reopened its doors on October 2, 1865, only to be burned October 15, 1869. On November 1, 1869, the institution resumed its exercises in Baton Rouge.
In 1928, LSU was a small-time country school that generated little interest or attention in the state. Labeled a “third-rate” institution by the Association of State Universities, the school had only 1800 students, 168 faculty members, and an annual operating budget of $800,000.
It was not until 1932 that the move [to its current location] was finally completed. Prior to this, LSU utilized the quarters of the Institute for the Deaf, Mute, and Blind.
By 1936, it had risen in size from 88th in the nation to 20th, and it was the 11th largest state university in the nation.
The institution opened January 2, 1860. The school was forced to close on June 30, 1861, with the start of the American Civil War.
The seminary officially reopened its doors on October 2, 1865, only to be burned October 15, 1869. On November 1, 1869, the institution resumed its exercises in Baton Rouge.
In 1928, LSU was a small-time country school that generated little interest or attention in the state. Labeled a “third-rate” institution by the Association of State Universities, the school had only 1800 students, 168 faculty members, and an annual operating budget of $800,000.
It was not until 1932 that the move [to its current location] was finally completed. Prior to this, LSU utilized the quarters of the Institute for the Deaf, Mute, and Blind.
By 1936, it had risen in size from 88th in the nation to 20th, and it was the 11th largest state university in the nation.
Posted on 1/30/11 at 5:53 pm to liferedeemed
I'm thinking of starting a new thread, about SEC trivia. I'm pretty sure that LSU was the last school in the SEC to move onto it's present campus.
I believe UGA was the first.
I believe UGA was the first.
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