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Posted on 1/28/11 at 11:25 pm to geauxskeet
Posted on 1/28/11 at 11:25 pm to geauxskeet
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"LSU's agcenter is located in Jeanerette, La and consists of 1137 acres as well as three additional campuses located around the state. The off-campus location of the agcenter eliminates the problem of stepping in pig sh*t and chicken droppings on the way to classes."
sorry, but the LSU agcenter office is on campus - used to be in Knapp hall, one block from the union, most offices are now down by the south gates. LSU does have 20 research agcenters around the state totaling 18130 acres.
He was talking about the LSU Research Center.
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Posted on 1/28/11 at 11:49 pm to jatebe
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Plus, during the Civil War, Alabama's campus was almost completely burned down. The college had to rebuild and they reopened in 1871. In 1880, Congress granted The University 40,000 acres (162 km²) of coal land in partial compensation for $250,000 in war damages.
I didn't know Alabama's campus was burned. Ole Miss' wasn't (although we only have three buildings left on campus that predate the Civil War)
Posted on 1/29/11 at 12:44 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
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One, it's still part of LSU's main, contiguous campus.
And I'm telling you it's the same at State. It's all considered the main campus.
Posted on 1/29/11 at 12:55 pm to Cdawg
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And I'm telling you it's the same at State. It's all considered the main campus.
You keep telling yourself that. My point is, if you have to get in your car and drive to it, it's not contiguous.
If only one major or discipline needs to use it than it's not something all students use.
I don't get the need to justify including fields, forests, pastures, and farms as part of the main, contiguous campus.
Mississippi State is padding it's campus size for whatever reason. It's funny, because even without adding the acreage from farms, fields, forests, and pastures State's campus is still one of, if not the largest campuses in the SEC.
Posted on 1/29/11 at 1:05 pm to ocelot4ark
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I had visited Texas A&M and it was too massive for my tastes.
That was the main reason why I hated my campus visit to A&M. Too big, not enough trees. Roll Tide :)
Posted on 1/29/11 at 1:10 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
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"LSU's agcenter is located in Jeanerette, La and consists of 1137 acres as well as three additional campuses located around the state. The off-campus location of the agcenter eliminates the problem of stepping in pig sh*t and chicken droppings on the way to classes."
sorry, but the LSU agcenter office is on campus - used to be in Knapp hall, one block from the union, most offices are now down by the south gates. LSU does have 20 research agcenters around the state totaling 18130 acres.
He was talking about the LSU Research Center.
Yes, like most people I know that the "AgCenter" is located on campus, and that LSU's Agcenter has a presence in all 64 parishes. The research farm in Iberia Parish simply came to mind because it is large and is known by the local gentry as the
"Agcenter". The original point was that MSU has the "north 40" in their back yard.
Posted on 1/29/11 at 1:38 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
First, I'm not in argument with you but trying to explain that it is all considered the campus.
It is contiguous b/c it is all one main campus. There's not part of the university in Columbus or on the east side of Starkville. It is all within it's own boundary.
Turfgrass majors, agronomy, Entomolgy, landscape architecture, all use north farm. Architecture students build projects on north farm. The technology park is on north farm.
south farm contains the intramural fields. Any major involving plants(horticulture, landscape,) go to south farm to aboretum. Aquaculture and Bioengineering use the ponds on south farm. Aboreculture takes place on south farm, Vet science. I can keep going.
B/c it is. I don't see what's so hard to understand about that. It's part of the classroom.
No it's not. this isn't me trying to pound my chest saying, "Oh yeah, State is the largest." I'm just letting you know, it's all one big campus.
**I guess they could break it the size down to saying North Farm, South Farm, Main Campus i suppose. But you can get from the northern most point to the southern most point and never leave the campus. and no, I wouldnt' want to walk.
It is contiguous b/c it is all one main campus. There's not part of the university in Columbus or on the east side of Starkville. It is all within it's own boundary.
Turfgrass majors, agronomy, Entomolgy, landscape architecture, all use north farm. Architecture students build projects on north farm. The technology park is on north farm.
south farm contains the intramural fields. Any major involving plants(horticulture, landscape,) go to south farm to aboretum. Aquaculture and Bioengineering use the ponds on south farm. Aboreculture takes place on south farm, Vet science. I can keep going.
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I don't get the need to justify including fields, forests, pastures, and farms as part of the main, contiguous campus.
B/c it is. I don't see what's so hard to understand about that. It's part of the classroom.
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Mississippi State is padding it's campus size for whatever reason
No it's not. this isn't me trying to pound my chest saying, "Oh yeah, State is the largest." I'm just letting you know, it's all one big campus.
**I guess they could break it the size down to saying North Farm, South Farm, Main Campus i suppose. But you can get from the northern most point to the southern most point and never leave the campus. and no, I wouldnt' want to walk.
This post was edited on 1/29/11 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 1/29/11 at 1:55 pm to Cdawg
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First, I'm not in argument with you but trying to explain that it is all considered the campus.
I'm shaking my head in disbelief. Every school in this conference has satellite campuses and other properties that are not part of the main contiguous campus. Every single one.
Only Mississippi State is padding it's campus size by including these.
I've been to State. I've walked the campus. I've seen all there is to see. Please desist from trying to pull the wool over my eyes.
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I don't get the need to justify including fields, forests, pastures, and farms as part of the main, contiguous campus.
B/c it is. I don't see what's so hard to understand about that. It's part of the classroom.
No, it's not. And it's something only Ag-related disciplines use anyways.
I'm not arguing. I'm asking for a realistic number. Try and look at this without maroon sunglasses for a second.
A visitor to State's campus is probably coming to see an athletic event. That's the part of the campus I'm talking about. That's the size I'd love to know.
Period.
Posted on 1/29/11 at 2:03 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
The vet school and the fields and the farms and the Observatory are on campus I promise you. I live in a fraternity house on campus and I can walk out of our front door and see the vet school and all that good stuff. You have got to be a fricking retard to think that the vet school and the southern part of campus is not on our campus considering the entire university is in a field. Stop being ignorant, especially when I live here. How many times have you been here?
Posted on 1/29/11 at 2:15 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
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I'm shaking my head in disbelief. Every school in this conference has satellite campuses and other properties that are not part of the main contiguous campus. Every single one.
I'm shaking my head in disbelief because you cannot grasp the concept that those fields are not satellites or other properties. It is all one large campus that you can draw a border around without any other property between.
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I've been to State. I've walked the campus. I've seen all there is to see. Please desist from trying to pull the wool over my eyes.
So you been to the horse track? You've been to the research Park? I bet you probably saw things you did not realize was the campus even thoogh they have visible signs.
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No, it's not. And it's something only Ag-related disciplines use anyways.
It's a fricking AG SCHOOL!!! You're right, an accounting major may never go to north farm but he/she might use the intramural fields on south farm.
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A visitor to State's campus is probably coming to see an athletic event.
so exclude any other type of visitor? You're not making any sense. I gave you an example of how LSU Vet center is situated in regards to LSU and tried to relate it to State but you still fail.
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Posted on 1/29/11 at 2:22 pm to Jma313
Ok, since the State fans obviously need pictures to get what I'm saying, here is the campus map:
MSU Campus
The North farm is not contiguous. The wildlife and fisheries station is not contiguous. The Thad Cochran research park is not contiguous. The MAFES conference center is not contiguous.
Now, with all of those properties not being used to pad State's total, what number are we looking at?
Try and imagine yourself as a visitor to State's campus for an athletic event. You're going to want to see the Union, administration building, the dorms, the frats and sororities...all the things that every student uses...and compare them to [insert another school here].
That is all I want, the size of the main, contiguous campus.
MSU Campus
The North farm is not contiguous. The wildlife and fisheries station is not contiguous. The Thad Cochran research park is not contiguous. The MAFES conference center is not contiguous.
Now, with all of those properties not being used to pad State's total, what number are we looking at?
Try and imagine yourself as a visitor to State's campus for an athletic event. You're going to want to see the Union, administration building, the dorms, the frats and sororities...all the things that every student uses...and compare them to [insert another school here].
That is all I want, the size of the main, contiguous campus.
This post was edited on 1/29/11 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 1/29/11 at 2:27 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
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TigersOfGeauxld
Please stop posting about State's Campus if you don't have a clue what you're talking about. Thanks.
Posted on 1/29/11 at 2:28 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
How about LSU's 1300 acres south of Colorado Springs?
Posted on 1/29/11 at 2:31 pm to lsu711
Mississippi State has a map of the main campus:
That's what I'm talking about. That's the size I'd like to find out. Nothing else.
That's what I'm talking about. That's the size I'd like to find out. Nothing else.
Posted on 1/29/11 at 2:37 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
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The North farm is not contiguous. The wildlife and fisheries station is not contiguous. The Thad Cochran research park is not contiguous. The MAFES conference center is not contiguous.
Actually it is and looks to be from that map that isnt' showing all of the campus. unless you want to be technical and say the state owns the highway that runs through campus or you have to go down a road 100 hundred yards to pick it up again.
If you look again, I posted they probably could break it down as north farm, south farm, main campus. But it is all contiguous and considered the campus. Maybe you're having trouble with the way it's broken up by labeling it. Trust me, when i got busted drinking on south farm it wasn't Oktibbeha county police that I had to deal with.
This post was edited on 1/29/11 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 1/29/11 at 2:37 pm to Toddy
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I didn't know Alabama's campus was burned. Ole Miss' wasn't (although we only have three buildings left on campus that predate the Civil War)
Only four buildings survived the burning during the Civil War. In fact, material from the burned building was used to rebuild the campus. The Rotunda, a library with over 7000 books was burned and only one volume was saved. The mound and the flagstones on the Quad are part of what is left of buildings before they were destroyed. Amelia Gayle Gorgas Library on the Quad sits on the footprint of the Rotunda.
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Here is a picture of the University of Alabama before it was destroyed.
Here is an article that tells part of the story.
Posted on 1/29/11 at 2:39 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
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That's what I'm talking about. That's the size I'd like to find out. Nothing else.
I see what I can find.
Posted on 1/29/11 at 2:49 pm to Cdawg
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Actually it is and looks to be from that map that isnt' showing all of the campus. unless you want to be technical and say the state owns the highway that runs through campus or you have to go down a road 100 hundred yards to pick it up again.
If you look again, I posted they probably could break it down as north farm, south farm, main campus. But it is all contiguous and considered the campus
I get what you're saying. But what I'm pointing out is, just because State has these specialized facilities closer to their campus than is true of LSU, Alabama, Georgia, etc. does not justify padding their campus size with these facilities.
If we wanted to include the total property size of each school, including all their acreage across the state and across the country, this list would look very different.
LSU, for example, owns a high rise museum in downtown Baton Rouge. I'm not including this in the figures for the main, contiguous campus.
Georgia owns a high rise building near Atlanta. Not included. Alabama owns properties throughout their state. Not included.
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That's what I'm talking about. That's the size I'd like to find out. Nothing else.
I see what I can find.
Thanks. I'm really looking at this from the standpoint of what a visitor to each campus would be likely to see near each school's athletic facilities.
Posted on 1/29/11 at 3:28 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
We're good man. But I see the confusion.
We state students/former students consider it all the campus of Mississippi State. it's just broken down as North Farm, South Farm, "Main" campus which make up the entire campus in Starkville. I had projects on both North and South Farms as an undergrad. They are part of the classrooms to undergrad and grad students. Those "fields" are just as important as a chemistry lab or art studio to students especially at an Ag school. They're not some experimental station 10 or 100 miles away with some crazy professor running it. When I said it's all the main campus I didn't want you to think I was confusing it with State's other satellite extension services. Our campus has the room to include all that right on campus
And State has a Meridian campus that isn't included. They have a forest research station in Newton county that's not included. I get what you're saying.
ain't found nothinng yet.
We state students/former students consider it all the campus of Mississippi State. it's just broken down as North Farm, South Farm, "Main" campus which make up the entire campus in Starkville. I had projects on both North and South Farms as an undergrad. They are part of the classrooms to undergrad and grad students. Those "fields" are just as important as a chemistry lab or art studio to students especially at an Ag school. They're not some experimental station 10 or 100 miles away with some crazy professor running it. When I said it's all the main campus I didn't want you to think I was confusing it with State's other satellite extension services. Our campus has the room to include all that right on campus
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LSU, for example, owns a high rise museum in downtown Baton Rouge. I'm not including this in the figures for the main, contiguous campus.
Georgia owns a high rise building near Atlanta. Not included. Alabama owns properties throughout their state. Not included.
And State has a Meridian campus that isn't included. They have a forest research station in Newton county that's not included. I get what you're saying.
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Thanks. I'm really looking at this from the standpoint of what a visitor to each campus would be likely to see near each school's athletic facilities.
ain't found nothinng yet.
Posted on 1/29/11 at 5:48 pm to Cdawg
florida's main campus is larger than the 2000 acres they state.
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