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Posted on 6/13/25 at 12:12 am to
Posted by CaliHorn
Los Angeles
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Posted on 6/13/25 at 12:12 am to
If your argument is you’re trying to protect women’s spaces in sports from men, but don’t believe women’s spaces should exist to begin with, your argument is not honest.

Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
65577 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 12:13 am to
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If your argument is you’re trying to protect women’s spaces in sports from men, but don’t believe women’s spaces should exist to begin with, your argument is not honest.



I never made either of those arguments, you're flailing at windmills.
Posted by CaliHorn
Los Angeles
Member since Apr 2025
658 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 12:15 am to
Oh, look, if you think Travis’ WNBA rants reflect some animus towards women and women’s sports, great.

Question is, why is Gaines on his team then?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
65577 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 12:16 am to
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Oh, look, if you think Travis’ WNBA rants reflect some animus towards women and women’s sports, great.


What's wrong with his "rant"? Where did he lie?
Posted by CaliHorn
Los Angeles
Member since Apr 2025
658 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 12:19 am to
What the hell does he care whether the WNBA exists? It’s not costing him anything. There’s thousands of channels out there. Nothing is being shoved down his throat.

Again: would you be proud to play that for your daughter playing basketball?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
65577 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 12:21 am to
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What the hell does he care whether the WNBA exists? It’s not costing him anything. There’s thousands of channels out there. Nothing is being shoved down his throat.



He's paid to have sports opinions and controversial takes, I'm assuming he's doing his job.

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Again: would you be proud to play that for your daughter playing basketball?


Sure. It'd be a great teaching moment as to how the real world actually works.
Posted by CaliHorn
Los Angeles
Member since Apr 2025
658 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 12:25 am to
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OutKick founder Clay Travis has accused the WNBA of biased treatment and retaliation after apparently being denied credentials for games.


If it’s irrelevant why does he need credentials to games?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
65577 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 12:26 am to
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If it’s irrelevant why does he need credentials to games?

You'd have to ask him about that.
Posted by CaliHorn
Los Angeles
Member since Apr 2025
658 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 12:38 am to
Well you were happy to assume he was just doing his job before. No guesses?

At some point I’d think you’d realize these people are all idiotic influencers. Gaines and Travis. Gaines claims she’s all about protecting women from men. She works for a guy who mocks female athletes. None of this stuff is genuine.

And you can believe everyone has a right to an opinion. But if you think your daughter needs to hear some man boob clown laughing at her sports heroes you suck as a person and dad.
This post was edited on 6/13/25 at 12:38 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
61917 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 4:01 am to
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If you have a daughter and you think she needs to hear the WNBA shouldn’t exist, this isn’t about women. It’s about your bigotry.


The WNBA has never turned a profit. It exists solely because the NBA and NBA players prop it up.

It shouldn't exist.
Posted by 49 to nada
In aggy and gooner heads, rent free
Member since Sep 2023
5189 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 8:04 am to
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So, trans people should never be allowed to participate in sports?
Is that fair to them?
They can either compete in sports based on their assigned birth gender or trans leagues can be started.

Funny how on that second part there would be no need to start a league for biological girls/women who want to compete as boys/men. Hmm..
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
9233 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 8:22 am to
In this example, it was NOT a trans person, but someone with naturally more testosterone than the other person. Is that a disadvantage?
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
9233 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 8:28 am to
Cite the proof of surgeries happening WHILE A KID & WITHOUT doctor discussions before those surgeries.

This isn’t simple like wanting your tonsils removed (that are done almost daily).

You listed 1 person that was ~3-4 MONTHS before being 18.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
17117 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 8:39 am to
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If your argument is you’re trying to protect women’s spaces in sports from men, but don’t believe women’s spaces should exist to begin with, your argument is not honest.



What an indictment on society today. The problem has now become a world that wants to make this issue a matter of political correctness as opposed to what it has always been, simple science and common sense.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
9233 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 8:43 am to
So
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They can either compete in sports based on their assigned birth gender or trans leagues can be started. Funny how on that second part there would be no need to start a league for biological girls/women who want to compete as boys/men. Hmm..


So, of the 500,000+ athletes in the NCAA & UNDER 10 who are trans…..HOW DO YOU COMPETE?

This is like Ga.’s high school athletics group that created a group of the highest populated schools. ONLY 4, in the entire state, were BELOW Atlanta.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
9233 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 8:46 am to
& now we have people wanting a black/white answer to a grey issue.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
17117 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 8:53 am to
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& now we have people wanting a black/white answer to a grey issue.


The only gray in this issue is people's standards.
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
89967 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 8:59 am to
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Gaines, who is on Outkick?

Right wing propaganda. and the bitch couldn't even beat the real women.

But yet she's a darling of the right.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
61917 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:04 am to
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In this example, it was NOT a trans person, but someone with naturally more testosterone than the other person. Is that a disadvantage?


This is a tougher issue and one that athletic governing bodies will have to decide for themselves. If it's truly a natural occurrence, then I see no issue with allowing that person to compete. However, it would be on the athlete to prove it's natural and that she isn't juicing.

From what I've seen, international athletic bodies are rejecting this completely. Recently, the "woman" who won gold in boxing at the Olympics was banned from international competitions due to testosterone levels. This person does not look like a woman, but the home country this person competes for swears this person is a woman. I feel like the international bodies are making the right call by erring on the side of caution and safety.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
61917 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:07 am to
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They DON’T allow surgeries until you’re 18 minimum.


You shifted the goalposts, in a very stupid way:

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Cite the proof of surgeries happening WHILE A KID & WITHOUT doctor discussions before those surgeries.


These surgeries are all performed by doctors, moron. Adding that qualifier just means you lied the first time. I gave you a very public and obvious example that blew up your argument completely. Deal with it.

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You listed 1 person that was ~3-4 MONTHS before being 18.


Again, this is what you said:

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They DON’T allow surgeries until you’re 18 minimum.


There are a great many other people who are advocates against transgender surgeries who had this done to them before they turned 18. They aren't hard to find. I just gave you the easiest and quickest example thatbis very publicly documented and makes it clear to everyone that you are a liar.
This post was edited on 6/13/25 at 9:08 am
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